This post frames suffering as a competition

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Unfair_Spell_7996 · 2025-10-07T13:24:06+00:00

why the fuck does this need to be a competition man, empathy is not finite for fuck sake, we can and should care both side, we can solve both side issues.

Due-Permission1353 · 2025-10-07T15:12:42+00:00

Their counterargument to misandry's existence is always rape. And I know the point of this post, but my comment is regarding how confident they're in their denial of female on male rape happening (or even male rape as a whole being very less compared to female rape) despite readily available sources on intern

For US, ig everyone's aware of the annual data of CDC NISVS, there has also been some research in many European countries ig. There was a huge post in LWMA with many sources (post title was something like 'sources on male rape part 1-5').

Then there's ME, and south asia, which are regarded as the worst places to be a woman in. But I found a few research papers which studied heterosexual rape in Turkey and Iran, a couple of them are in the post I was talking about, another one regarding Iran I am attaching the link, with very high rates of SA for both men and women, it was something like 24 % women and 23 % men raped. It was a small scale survey so it's not wise to make any significant conclusions, but many would have easily believed 24% women raped, but since there's also 23% men raped (and this is heterosexual rape as mentioned in the research), it becomes different, but I still feel it's better not to reach conclusions, but this definitely shows that female on male rape even in ME is probably a much bigger issue than thought to be. This is the link to that paper:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-022-01312-2

Regarding south asia, for Pakistan, one can check cruel numbers reports by Sahil NGO to see the numbers for child abuse, equal number of boys and girls were raped (sodomy is used for male victims as is the law in the subcontinent), out of total 1800 rape cases, 900 victims were boys 900 were girls, and 1400 of those cases were from Punjab, the most urbanized province of pakistan, so the province got over represented for the actual share of its population (half of population of pakistan is in punjab), which shows there's prominent under reporting in other provinces, Balochistan is conflict prone, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is very backward where there was also this practice called bacha bazi like in Afghanistan (idk if it still happens or not), while Sindh is not all that developed outside of Karachi/Hyderabad from what I've heard.

As for India, boys are equally likely to be SA'd as girls as per some research done in the country, another survey taken by center for civil society in 2013 had that 18% men were raped, 16% by a woman, 2% by a man. Again, small sample size, so not good to conclude anything. Men here face SA by both men and women, I can say that. In my personal circle, I know of male on female, male on male, and female on male SA, have not personally heard about female on female SA. One thing many might hear about online is the rampant SH of women on Holi, there's also this occurrence of some men ripping apart the clothes of a man in the name of holi, I know one friend of mine who had gone through this when he was 14 and those other men were in college so somewhere around 20, it was very traumatizing for him, I have also seen some clips from Indian villages (places where women are most oppressed, apparently) of some women doing this to some man on twitter.

bodyisT · 2025-10-07T21:50:17+00:00

Women aren’t killed or raped because people hate the fact that they’re women.

Responsible-Plant573 · 2025-10-07T14:44:02+00:00

hear me out

rape is not misogyny as u can’t hate women and desire them so much that u can rape them together

BhryaenDagger · 2025-10-07T15:54:59+00:00

Hate = hate. *shrug* Stop the hate. Simple. They need to stop making excuses for misandry rather than pretending misogyny is "special".

The notion of misogynistic violence (rape being sexual violence) against women being "in masses" is also a stretch. Violence is occurring in human society, men themselves being the overwhelming recipients, but whether or not violence against either men or women is "in masses" is the stretch: violent sociopathy is the small minority, so it begs the question of why one would introduce it as exemplary. State-sanctioned violence (war, execution, etc.) is far more notable... and there's been no war declared on women...

Also what is it w these asinine comments overlaid on a girl's face whose expression and context doesn't in any way reflect the hostility of the comment? Is that even the girl who's posting it or just some rando girl they picked for the meme? At least anti-abortion nitwits superimpose fetuses and babies that are clearly used to dramatize their point, not just overlaying "Bortion bad" over the smiling face of an anti-abortion protester on the beach w a margarita. It's almost as nitwitted as the YouTube short trend by "dating advice" women who only make their entitlement video rants while they're in the process of plastering on heavy makeup... which men have overwhelmingly said they neither care about nor particularly like...

000187346 · 2025-10-07T22:29:52+00:00

They think nothing should be stopped until suffering is frequent and severe- not to say male suffering isn't both already.

This mindset is awful- we should be trying to nip problems as early on as we can, there is no reason to wait till it's worse.

Themannywillbe · 2025-10-08T00:45:20+00:00

The idea misogyny is driving the murder and rape of women is obscene. men are not killing women just because they hate them, it's for a whole slew of possible reasons Men don't even rape women because they hate them, it's because of thier selfish desires

Themannywillbe · 2025-10-08T00:44:24+00:00

The idea misogyny is driving the murder and rape of women is obscene. men are not killing women just because they hate them, it's for a whole slew of possible reasons Men don't even rape women because they hate them, it's because of their selfish desires

Specialist_Most_7338 · 2025-10-09T16:29:23+00:00

If this is even remotely true then why are men killing themselves in droves compared to these poor widdle female victims. 🙄

orion-7 · 2025-10-08T20:46:21+00:00

Who wants to tell her the 1in6 stat?

Sleeksnail · 2025-10-09T02:42:47+00:00

I'm just going to point out the sadistic glee in her face.

IrresponsibleInsect · 2025-10-09T05:24:43+00:00

My first thought was- we need selective service for women, because of the inequality.

While the number of women killed by men in the US, based on a 10 year average, is around double the number of men killed in combat, the per capita deaths of males sent to combat vs the per capita domestic homicides of females is around 110 times higher.

So I'd probably take my chances with domestic violence over being sent to combat... Especially because you can do things to avoid and fight back for domestic violence, whereas being sent to an active combat zone is more likely to be luck than anything.

Low-Philosopher-2354 · 2025-10-09T19:34:34+00:00

Incidentally, who is that and how can I destroy her life? Also Mary Koss is a real piece of shit for creating the conditions for these people to believe that women aren't ALREADY doing that, at least about as much as men are.

BhryaenDagger · 2025-10-08T23:35:56+00:00

Childbirth is dangerous in ALL cases. Pumping out a watermelon isn’t just bad IBS. Before modern medical tech women died a lot more often trying to conceive, but even today it’s still a gamble w one’s life. Small risk is still risk. Forcing a woman into it is- without the slightest hyperbole- treating that risk as irrelevant, treating her life as irrelevant. Some matters are just that clear. It’s the one issue feminists could use to successfully argue misogyny since banning abortion is only possible w hatred and/or indifference to the lives of women… but feminists would rather bitch about misandry being overstated and fill coffee cups w “man tears”, so no more abortion…

If a pregnant woman doesn’t want to take the risk of childbirth for any reason- being a drug addict, being too young, incest, having tried to trap a guy into fatherhood unsuccessfully, likelihood of genetic disorders, being knocked up by a student she statutorily raped, whatever- forcing her to continue to childbirth is sociopathic. It’s vindictive and ultimately just adds more suffering to society generally. And any woman who dies from a forced childbirth dies from state-sanctioned murder… Any complications from the pregnancy are state-sanctioned violence. Any trauma to her life is state-sanctioned torment. There’s no getting around the misogynistic component at that point.

And, no, the life/health risk of abortion is nowhere near childbirth- a notably dumb deflection. Unless women are forced into back-alley clothes-hanger abortions again, in which case the life/health risk might indeed be worse than childbirth. But that’s why we should not only not force childbirth, but also should ensure safe, readily-available abortion service.

Are there some women who will treat abortion casually? Even sociopathically? It’s statistically a given. Women are people, and people range on the nitwit scale. Does that in any way negate the sanity and reasonability of safe, readily-available abortion? Not in the least. Arguments from “morality” are always baseless. You may as well be Greta Thunberg: “How dare you!?” Until you abandon Christianity for Jainism and argue for never doing anything that can harm a life, opposition to abortion on “sacredness of life” is nitwit BS. And Jainists are full of nitwit BS. Be anti-war, anti-death penalty, anti-violence, anti-guns, opposed to arming the police, a vegan, and full-on up for high taxes to make sure unwanted children are cared for, and THEN you will at least have positioned yourself to fit the argument. And you’ll still be a nitwit because of the inherent depravity of forcing childbirth on a person.

“Pro-life” is the politically immature position of someone who is cherry-picking gestating human lives to “defend” (against the mother’s) while obtusely ignoring the big picture of a society in which women’s lives (and the rest of us) are sacrificed and burdened w forced childbirth. Why not just build warehouses to which women can be shipped off once pregnancy is confirmed? This way they can be strapped into birthing mattresses to prevent them doing anything to compromise that precious snuggleHitler she picked up from a rapist or drunken night on the town- or both- or anniversary night w hubby when she’s in her 40s when the life/health risk is even higher. Nine months later kick her and her shiny new brat to the curb again to fend for themselves since it’s all about forcing childbirth, not about raising humanity’s unwanted children. Next pregger! Now that’s life’s sacredness in action! “Disingenuous” is indeed the word… “Moralizingly disingenuous” moreso. As Bill Hicks put it, “Women forced to have children by the Supreme Court should drop them at the Court steps. ‘YOU said I had to have it. So YOU raise it.’”

If humanity’s population is dwindling to where we may be on the brink of oblivion as a species, then you can argue that there’s a reason to insist women bear children… and even that’s dodgy given- well, have you seen human beings? We’re no angels. But even I would see the salience of the call… on the grounds of species salvation, not any other. We’re nowhere near that.

As to negotiating about which month, viability after forcibly removing it from the mother, yada yada, it’s just not worth it to try to hammer anything out here. I largely don’t care, and the vast majority of women know early on if they’ve decided to abort. It’s a question of what’s best for society: respecting women’s childbirthing role and bodily autonomy (as we respect men’s bodily autonomy) while having at least some means of voluntary population control… or overpopulation and stickin’ it to those damn womenz while providing the govt a loophole to ignore our bodily autonomy even regardless of life/health risk? Looks like we’re doing the latter. And the world’s getting even more beautiful!

Title	This post frames suffering as a competition
Author	SquaredAndRooted
Upvotes	158
Comments	28
Date	October 7, 2025 3:52 AM UTC (9 months ago)
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