Selective Service and voting

RaxL · 2014-08-19T20:26:24+00:00

Google it you lazy bastard. Geez lol.

new-man2 · 2014-08-19T21:34:53+00:00

Here is some really basic stuff. There is much more info out there, this was easy to find right there on the SSS (Selective Service) webpage.

https://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

BENEFITS AND PROGRAMS LINKED TO REGISTRATION

Registration is the law. A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years.

Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.

https://www.sss.gov/FSwomen.htm

Women Aren't Required to Register

Here's why:

THE LAW Selective Service law as it is written now refers specifically to "male persons" in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law.

THE SUPREME COURT The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.

https://www.sss.gov/seq.htm

CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT AUTHORIZE A DRAFT A crisis occurs which requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. Congress passes and the President signs legislation which starts a draft.

THE LOTTERY A lottery based on birthdays determines the order in which registered men are called up by Selective Service. The first to be called, in a sequence determined by the lottery, will be men whose 20th birthday falls during that year, followed, if needed, by those aged 21, 22, 23, 24 and 25. 18-year-olds and those turning 19 would probably not be drafted.

https://www.sss.gov/FShow%20would.htm

When the all-volunteer force was established, it was not intended to stand alone in time of national emergency. If, by law, it is determined that a return to the draft is required, the Selective Service System would be responsible for supplying manpower through the induction process to fill vacancies that could not be filled through voluntary enlistments.

https://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

STUDENT FINANCIAL AID Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Federal Pell Grants, Federal Supplemental Educational Opportunity Grants (FSEOG), Direct Stafford Loans/Plus Loans, National Direct Student Loans, and College Work Study.

CITIZENSHIP The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) makes registration with Selective Service a condition for U.S. citizenship if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

FEDERAL JOB TRAINING The Workforce Investment Act (WIA) offers programs that can train young men seeking vocational employment or enhancing their career. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service. Only men born after December 31, 1959, are required to show proof of registration.

FEDERAL JOBS A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.

https://www.sss.gov/FSdrivers.htm

Maintaining a high compliance rate is of concern to officials because it means that any future draft instituted by Congress and the President in a national emergency would be fair and equitable. Also, men who fail to register with Selective Service are not eligible for certain programs and benefits that the Congress and 41 state and territorial legislatures and the District of Columbia have linked to registration. They include student loans and grants for college, most government jobs, and job training. Additionally, immigrant men residing in the U.S. who fail to register when they are at least 18 years old, but not yet 26 years old, may be denied U.S. citizenship by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Description of Typical State Driver’s License Legislation

These laws are simple and inexpensive to implement. They instruct the state’s Department of Public Safety or Motor Vehicles to include a consent statement on all applications or renewals for driver’s permits, licenses, and identification cards. The statement tells the applicant that by submitting the application he is consenting to his registration with the SSS, if so required by Federal law. Females are not required to register with SSS under current law. Men 26 years of age or beyond are too old to register.

Transmission of applicant data to the SSS is accomplished electronically through an existing arrangement each state has with the data sharing system of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVAnet) at no extra cost to the state.

modern_rabbit · 2014-08-19T21:46:52+00:00

Under normal circumstances, when you register to vote you are automatically registered for the Selective Service. Allegedly there are ways around this, but I myself just said fuckit and let them register me.

When you register for FAFSA, you will be asked if you need to and want to register for SS. Registration is required to receive federal student aid, in some states it's required to receive state grants, and in some of those states it's required to even be enrolled in a public university.

If you fail to register before you are 26, you lose all access to FAFSA and certain federal jobs. This can be overturned if you can demonstrate you were not aware of the requirement or unintentionally failed to fulfill it.

You are also susceptible to prosecution for failing to register within 30 days of your 18th birthday, but only a handful of people have ever been prosecuted and those were for PR reasons (draft dodgers, etc.).

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Title	Selective Service and voting
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Date	August 19, 2014 7:25 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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