From 3rd world country here, there a lot of cases in my country where the woman expect the man to provide her, accommodate her, buy her a lot of things, only to found out the man doesn't receive any good treat from the woman, even the woman often lash out and belittle the man, but once the man had enough and decided to confront them, suddenly the woman flip the script like she was the victim benefiting from social conditioning where mass society think women is weak and we should protect them first. Many men once reached this phase, they decided to cut her off, leaving the man with bad reputation due to the woman were already way steps ahead of manipulating him, told her and his friends like she was the victim and the man was the bad guy even though she was the first one that made the conflict.
Been on this redpill forum since mid 2020, a lot of users gave advice to the young man to not marry in this era. The more I grew older, the more I get the perspective and agree a lot more (i'm 25 this year), also the divorce rate in my country is way way higher than ever before. Recently a lot of cases in my country where the man had enough and did a physical abuse to the woman. For example, a man decided to do physical abuse to the woman due to disappointment of her behaviors (taking the man for granted, exploiting him, belittling him) and received a sentence for 12 years. The woman has been hospitalized while receiving support, but in this scenario, the man had already shared the chronology to his social media (Tiktok) prior to attack, hoping that it will go viral after the incident, so the public knew how bad she was and why the man decided to attack her physically. And yes, it did go viral after the incident. Before the public knew the chronology, there were a lot of framing and accusations that made the guy was the complete bad guy, but luckily now it flipped, even though the man now is in jail. Also adding some context to this scenario, the girl already had boyfriend but she was cheating to this man and take him for granted, whom later attacked her. After the incident, her boyfriend broke up with her, and the other man whom she cheated on got sentenced. In conclusion, that girl have 2 options, 1 man who do LDR with her (the one who provide her but rarely meet), and the other one (also providing her a bit, helping, and accommodating her needs, often meet her) who was close to her and somewhat developing situationship, but in those situationship, the woman was taking the man for granted for her own favor.
I knew a lot of men out there who were a victim of a manipulative woman (i.e. divorced then became poor due to the assets distribution, being slandered, being scapegoated, wrong accusations, etc), and I just can't imagine what will it be if I were the man that was being manipulated. Last time I was in a relationship, at first she was really charming and feminine, then after some times, I lowered my guard a bit, she turned into self entitled and manipulative whore, wanted me to do x y z for her, but I knew this just her attempt to test me how compliance I was and manipulate the shit out of me. Luckily since I knew this pattern, I didn't really follow her saying or get manipulated by her, and just did what I want, yet she tried to frame me as the bad guy of how stubborn I was and hard to compromise, even her friends agreeing her framing towards me. Contrary to what this sub saying, there were a diminishing returns where I was being tested again and again without her respecting me afterwards (I already did agree/amplify, amused mastery, ignore, etc), and had enough of it before it worsen resulting in most of my friends believe her narrative and blame me for it. Once I had enough and I didn't think she lessen her test (too much test), I cut her off completely without even hoping her to chase me (of course that would be me being desperate if I were hoping her like that, just goes on with my life afterwards).
I think nowadays it's better to just be a side man, where you just close to a girl for some period, then move to the next girl without giving her any real commitment (if you dont have any passion to build a family like me), only there for fun. Do this for a lifetime. A lot of girls are fun and kind when they meet them on the first time, but after some times, if I see diminishing return before they breed familiarity and contempt toward me, to avoid me being taken for granted, I move to the next new girl immediately, the novelty effect plays a role in here. I don't do plate like this sub says due to having less resources (time and money) just 1 girl at a time, but once I decided to end, I move to the next girl. Even a lot of my girl friends who already have boyfriends, when their boyfriends are afar, they sometimes invite me to go on a "date" where the man doesn't even acknowledge it, and of course I won't spoil her because she was the one who invite me. Marriage nowadays are scam, just some shitty power play that place the convenience to the woman side. Just my rant, because I don't even see the point behind marriage, if I happen to made a good life where I have social status, power, wealth, then decided to marry only to found out my wife treat me good but slowly after a certain time, she take me for granted due to familiarity in marriage, she breeds contempt, and put a burden into me by manipulating the shit out of me only for her convenience, that would be nightmare for me. I live in a country where marriage is still some cultural tradition that tend to be a mandatory for both men and women. I knew this concept has been told a lot in this sub, but I just want to get it off from my chest to this sub looking for some man to man discussion.
For context, I'm 25, fit body, not too focusing on bodybuilding rn, my goal is to just have some lean toned body and I'm keeping it that way without solely be autistic increasing my muscle mass. I don't even spend so much time at the gym anymore, just do some bodyweight workout in my home compared to 4 years before where I focus too much on bodybuilding and I spend about 1.5 hours at the gym. In my experience, as long as I'm lean, where I have low body fat, exposing chiseled jawline and cheekbones, women go crazy for my attention, so I just like to keep it that way, also my cardiovascular is much much better compared to years ago (only did bodybuilding) after I add cardio program, with vo2 max metrics of 44, not really high but in a healthy range.
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