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I would recommend some light mindfulness exercises. The thing with vibe is that there are two types of communications. One is here and now (oxytocin based), one is on the future (dopamine/logical). The switch between the two is more physiological than psychological.
/r/seduction28/04/26 04:00 AM
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albeit a valid viewpoint, it is more excessive than it needs to be. Because men who couldn't do that, actually still do get laid. Power in humans is as much social and mental as being buffed
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:33 PM
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Here is a non-seduction example to make the point concrete: Assume you are a store clerk, then a person walks in the store, grabs a product and attempts to walk out. For all intents and purposes this is a "shit test". For example when the girl demands something of you ("do that...") or makes slight fun of you (I personally had a girl which I later had sex tell me I am boring), in terms of status games is akin to getting something out of nothing. In both cases, the question asked is "where are th…
/r/seduction27/04/26 06:31 PM
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A little bit of stoicism is well regarded here. Yes, the 28 year old with 100 lays has bragging rights over you. And certainly there is much to be gained from a sexually active life… But it always ends up more as a status play than that you actually missed “the life”. There are many resources online. Particularly relevant to what you are describing i recommend this. Now, in terms of types of Game. Daygame has many examples of late bloomers and is something that works well into the 40s. It caters…
/r/seduction26/04/26 11:59 AM
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I will reframe your entire connection, because I don't think you are aiming at turning conversations into flirting or teasing just for the sake of it. Your real question, is how to capitalize on attraction, i.e., how and when to escalate. The key concept here is social (she is talking to you) vs sexual (she fancies you) hook point. And before anything, you need to realize that the former, doesn't always lead to the latter. A girl might be talking to you for 100 reasons, but might not fancy you a…
/r/seduction24/04/26 06:56 PM
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yes but on this case, going out of your comfort zone won't achieve anything by itself. Just because it is a reason, for example all rugby players are buffed, does not make it a sufficient reason, if you are buffed you will be a good rugby player
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:56 AM
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That is so wrong in so many levels. Next time say “you are not a millionaire because you dont earn enough money”
/r/seduction24/04/26 09:25 AM
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The way to solve inner game issues is via observation and understanding. Right now, you “saw” something of your psyche. Dont deny the feeling, this is part of who you are. Observe it and trace its origin. Then try to induce change at the core. Usually most of inner game issues result from unreasonable demands of the world (i.e. wrong/unreasonable expectations) or misdirected effort. Hence, just the act of self understanding induces change in and of itself. Inner Game is not easy, these are just …
/r/seduction24/04/26 06:41 AM
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You are expecting the IOIs to be obvious, while you forget the also obvious tenet, that woman sexuality is covert, not overt. Actually, this part has nothing to do with your SMV, it has to do with your inner game. Game just revealed a blind spot of your inner psyche.
/r/seduction24/04/26 06:22 AM
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Here is a full guide for you. My average date is about 2 hours before sex. Things can get pretty wild once you are good at this. But understand this, fast escalation is like a firework. You can try your best get momentum (altitude) and at the critical moment either go off to a beautiful site or fail to ignite and fall on the ground flat. You never know which one is gonna be until the very last moment.
/r/seduction23/04/26 10:21 AM
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I didnt like nightlife that much and the introverted nature of daygame suits me better than the extraverted nature of the night (play the room). But don’t confuse volume of sets with efficiency. Because daygame is so flexible and quick (a set can be 20s -blowout. A lay is usually 3 hours incl date), taken altogether it is about the same effort/time investment.
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:00 AM
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up to this day, i do believe that one learns seduction via success, not via failure. Eventually, I lucked out on what worked and built from there. Of course, being habituated and less stressed matters, but by itself is not even close to enough.
/r/seduction23/04/26 04:06 AM
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that is correct, and also quite common for beginners in daygame. Krauser famously got his first lay after 1000 approaches.
/r/seduction23/04/26 04:04 AM
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Here are some of my stats: This for beginner This more recently For Daygame, the best is usualy 1/6-7, if it less then you are not opening wide enough.
/r/seduction23/04/26 03:26 AM
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my question to you then is: if you cannot bridge that gap, what are your chances of bridging other more important ones. Sure the possibility that they reject this and she accepting a date is non-zero, but then you are raising your hopes high for a very long shot
/r/seduction22/04/26 06:25 PM
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Here is a stoicism lesson for you: pick up and any advice will only work on a subset of girls that are atleast interest and available for you specifically. This subset refers to you, which is a different subset that is available to me or the next guy. Now having said all that, the socially smart thing to do in this situation is to organise a hangout with other classmates and invite her. Going direct on this setting (as saying you like her straight on), is a bit off. Regarding anxiety that you me…
/r/seduction22/04/26 04:25 PM
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it doesnt sound like a you thing (in the sense you can do anyhting about it). It feels she just wanted the one and done. For your own psyche than anything else, best is to drop it
/r/seduction22/04/26 03:47 PM
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This is normal, don’t sweat about it. In Daygame, the saying goes that for you first 200 approaches, you wont be able to focus on the set at all. You have to plow on, in the beginning there is no cure for AA except for forcing yourself in set. This roadmap might help. Regarding infields: not all are staged, but even the ones who aren’t, they are cherrypicked. Nobody will watch a 20second blowout. In clubs, the super on (eg. instant makeout) reaction is rare, so don’t worry if reality doesn’t mat…
/r/seduction22/04/26 02:50 AM
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I think most of what you say is resolved from the observation that women's communication is not about "truth". Here is the description of the phenomenon. And here is a heavy philosophical analysis. But the issue here is to not to girls as if they were men. I don't think you need to label it as "autist", it is a bit mean.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:51 PM
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If in doubt, escalate! So if you taking to them and you aint getting rejected, you are doing something wrong
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:37 PM
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All female competition is not sexual. It is a status play aimed at other women. I dont even know how that myth started. Trophy husbands (if that term even stands) are not equivalent to trophy women… like at all. And the guy is not getting the influencer lifestyle benefits you think of.
/r/seduction21/04/26 03:48 AM
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Women hate emotionless faces. They can’t read it and that confuses them (remember they prioritize emotional and relationship info first). Thats the real cause of confusion. As long as your face has an emotion on it you are doing fine. Now out of all emotions you can have, a smile is prob best
/r/seduction20/04/26 02:35 PM
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All rejections should hurt in the short run. Otherwise, you are hitting on girls you dont like. On the long run it should dissipate as background noice though. The equation is always the same: you have nothing to lose from an approach and everything to win
/r/seduction18/04/26 01:44 PM
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The collective body of knowledge has reduced Game into 5 categories. What you are noticing is part of inner game (calm/confidence), but you over-exaggerate it. For most men, most of the time, it is not about inner game only
/r/seduction17/04/26 05:33 PM
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As with all dry spells, essentially it comes down to luck to brake, so you have to plow through it. Currently you have "bad reaction" -> "inner pain" -> "another bad reaction". Eventually, you will get a good reaction, maybe a date or a lay, and then you can turn it into a positive spiral. "good reaction" -> "feeds self esteem" -> "more positive reactions". You can self-diagnose your inner game quite well infield, so next you are in set, take a moment to note your thoughts and feelings. Try to p…
/r/seduction17/04/26 02:53 PM
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There is an argument that if we go along with this then he has only a dating pool of exactly… 1 girl. But most likely you are right
/r/seduction17/04/26 02:01 PM
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Moving there is also crap, as far as his inner development and core is concerned.
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:22 PM
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Then the same rules of a low-trust, clan based society should apply. Social proof and pre-selection go up in value the more people are not willing to entertain strangers. Athens is like this (assuming OP was not hitting exclusively on tourists).
/r/seduction17/04/26 09:20 AM
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I have never been in the Nordics, but i can give some general universal pointers: Less sexual/less eye contact: No, keep it up. It is part of the filtering mechanism on Daygame. I think you can reach hookpoints, so less eye contact, I dont see how it would make them like you more. Indirect: the whole point of indirect game is to reach hookpoint before the statement of intent. If you are getting phone numbers you are reaching that part, hence i don’t think it would help you (… to actually get lai…
/r/seduction17/04/26 09:04 AM
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On a social setting the true signs will never be like that. There is so much BS going on the social game it is not worth to waste your effort. Her flirting with you it might be a scheme directed at her boyfriend, a scheme to keep you as orbiter or a scheme to gain social status via association. Overt flirty signals like this are never true. Subtle signals are true but risky to capitalize (as reputation sticks). And then there are the blatant obvious signals (when she initiates for sex). The best…
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:47 PM
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Pre-selection, social proof, body language and the rest is variance. The majority of men are not attractive to the majority of women. But with the right set-up, in a room of 100, maybe a man will shine in the eyes for like 5-10 of the girls (possibly less). That is enough to get the ball rolling. But don't underplay the variance. All forms of Game require inner game work. What people see in solo direct Game, is what holds at best for everyone for sexual attraction. It doesn't get better, so lear…
/r/seduction16/04/26 03:46 PM
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Honestly, i just think the modern popular faces that promote caricatures of RP and PUA content are astroturfed to scapegoat the entire knowledge base of these fields. They have a “famous” guy gone too far, so now they can ridicule the entire thing. I don’t think the popularity is real or the advice is good
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:39 PM
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I disagree with this. Mentality matters insofar to make your approach the best it can be. But after that… your mindset doesn’t correlate with the girl’s reaction at all. I also disagree with the “don’t care about outcome” mindset. If dont care, then you wont care about success either… and hence what is the point of approaching. The best way to reduce the spotlight effect is to go and approach a few times. See that nothing happens. Then the second step is accepting variance
/r/seduction15/04/26 11:17 AM
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Until you realise that being “natural” without developing your “natural” leads to nowhere. You have the right to be natural only late into your career
/r/seduction15/04/26 07:02 AM
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IOIs are just filtering in themselves. You can even force IOIs. I agree with you, but I am also of the point that a portion of the approaches should be wider, just to limit test
/r/seduction14/04/26 04:27 PM
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you go brother
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:26 PM
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Stop being overt with such things. Your actions communicate your intention via leadership. These are way too basics of game to be messing up. Like what you expected her to say? Her bottom is open for you (and you only) whenever you like, and she gets nothing out of this?
/r/seduction14/04/26 07:58 AM
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I dont have plans to be there. But Brisbane is among the places built for Daygame. The circle between Queen Street -> South Bank -> Botanic Gardens. Has both volume and ideal setting for approaching (relaxed, non-rushing people). Then any apartment inside the CBD makes dates really easy. Starting from southbank you can hit most of the romantic spots on the way to your place. Sadly, you will miss the outlier and crazy stories of Sydney, however, it is both a high yield and consistent place.
/r/seduction14/04/26 07:22 AM
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Even without covid, there is a declining trend on social skills.
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:04 AM
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It is a well documented decline of social skills, awareness and openness for all people after covid. This is a general declining trend. What you are referring was a post lockdown one time surge. Because people hadnt had sex for long enough. These are two different things
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:03 AM
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I think you are misunderstanding things a bit. Even old literature agreed on the fact that "High value women, date high value men". Everyone who claimed you can get every girl was a scammer even back then. Game is a skill and does work, when you have passed the initial stay/don't stay from the girl. And there are some ways to slightly rig that decision (pre-selection/social proof). But you can only run the set, once you are in-set. This article explains it well, scientifically. Now, if you ask m…
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:37 PM
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Of course, because there is an omnipotent force that hides all the DTF girls from plain view of mortals. Sometimes reddit outdoes itself. [For ONS specifically, nothing beats Western countries. ONS are either reliant on luck, or very good set up/Game. On the latter, you can pull it off anywhere, for the former you need least cultural friction possible, hence, West.]
/r/seduction13/04/26 04:34 PM
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Here is a take on Athens. As you go north from there, there is increasingly more daygame literature of success.
/r/seduction13/04/26 01:47 PM
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I have been there, albeit as a small trip. I was dumbfounded by the boldness of eye contact and IOIs … only to realise that language barrier trumps everything. If she speaks english it will go well. If she doesn’t, no matter on what terms you approached, you will get blown out so hard to question your own existence. It is not limited to approaches. There was a time that girls dropped their credit card on the floor. And decided to completely ignore me, instead of taking their card back. I think t…
/r/seduction13/04/26 12:14 PM
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And that means absolutely nothing in terms of credibility or point. The part that you are korean and putting Seoul first makes it especially funny
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:55 AM
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You literally just pulled 5 cities at random. The majority of them, actually being very bad for hook ups
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:28 AM
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I don't think that "hot girls are electing out of social life" can stand as an argument on its own. They are the sex that draws most satisfaction out of social life. Guys go to nightclubs to get laid, girls go to get attention. What you call as pestering approaches, is social capital for the eyes of their friends
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:14 PM
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because there is no omnipotent force that convinces beautiful girls out of social life. Nor there is a force that is paywalling them into exclusive parties or clubs. Whatever you see out of your window, is a good representation of the local market. I don't understand what you aiming for. Either accept the local market and make the best of it, or move to a different one.
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:09 PM
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Bruh,the majority of countries the famously have hotter women (EE, some of latin america, Korea, etc.) you can live comfortably on less that one month’s rent of major western cities. Now your point really becomes non-sensical. You are complaining you cannot find hot women… well no-one is hiding them from you. If you can’t find them in your own city/country, then demographically, they are not there. Unless you wanna complain on the internet about socio-economic decline, your only practical action…
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:45 PM
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Because discussing the root causes of this: breakdown of social institutions (that make people not vegetables. You need a motivating reason to stay well put), obesity, and myriad other reasons, etc., are heavily censored on reddit. Even going to the gym or staying educated (charm is also intellectual) are “lifestyle” choices now, not necessity. Doing well, won’t necessarily lead to tangible benefits. That is your really cause over here. Hence, as I said, move out of the West is the easiest/best …
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:35 PM
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Then the quickest answer to your question is moving out of the West. But this doesn't mean the whole thing is easier, other countries have their own set of challenges.
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:13 PM
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you can never really go back to square one, unless you mean this only by how much you feel AA. In general, Game, if done actively is something you need to plan out. You cannot just expect to fill downtime and get good or results consistently.
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:09 PM
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it can be pretty random, mainly from entangling sexual interest with social capital. Hence, noisy signal
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:07 PM
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Nightgame has self selection on make-up, openness to put themselves out there to be seen and the relevant fashion. The same girls might look like 7s during the day. My question to you is the following: why are you so fixated on 8s and above? It just doesn't make any sense. Pursue them, yes, ignore all 7s that can be really pleasant... no. In general, you tunnelvision in one small aspect female hotness (which fluidly defined), here is a full digression on the sources of value Game adds, with a fu…
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:06 PM
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It is your job as a man to be aware with what you are dealing with. You cannot get conned unless you willingly sign up for it (at some level). As far as women are concerned, their thinking stems from different mental models, here is a deep dive on the subject.
/r/seduction12/04/26 02:51 PM
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Mindfulness is the one you are referring to (albeit, not to the extreme some people are taking it), and the “emotional” part is just the brain systems that involve serotonin/oxytocin. Here is your article.
/r/seduction10/04/26 05:03 PM
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the medium is the message. If she replies, she is interested. The only thing that matters is whether you meet and whether you have sex. If you already had sex, you can relax a bit, flakes are more rare, unless the vibe was trully one and done. For more details, here is a texting guide.
/r/seduction10/04/26 03:18 PM
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It is not worth getting into argument. But i would really impressed if the majority of this sub were to agree with this. (In general: Try a positive review of what you are saying. What is serial monogamy the norm? When it cannot be backed up historically, genetically and behaviorially)
/r/seduction10/04/26 02:10 PM
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If you are expecting “proof” in scientific studies in such a highly political topic … you are missing the mark. The collective experience of players is all we need, and it hard confirms it.
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:46 PM
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Never be overt brother. Always do things covertly. Being overt is just a status/ego play here
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:37 PM
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It is not accurate in practice. It is accurate in theory. Because you plan to do what? Be a Beta and try to get results on the field? We only see the alpha side of it in practice. But having said that… it is very accurate at observing social dynamics in social settings and understanding society at large
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:36 PM
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AI huh At least next time prompt it so the writing can make sense
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:19 AM
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Europe is a lot more about subtlety and social calibration. US is so superficial that “nothing matters” in the date unless you engage in a hard frame crush just to have a conversation with the girl. But this is based on my experience. But you missed the mark, Daygame is designed to be polarising. You are indeed meant to go up to her and tell her she is cute. Overall, this makes for better and faster lays. For a better explanation i will refer you here. And also here. Most of the attrition comes …
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:01 PM
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1 lay per month (consistently) is a lot from daygame. 2 is really a lot, but probably unsustainable. This is simply from logistics. And it also assumes you want to keep the girls. Because if you have 10 ons in a week and you dont want to see them again… what are you opening
/r/seduction09/04/26 04:54 PM
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If a stranger sees you, will he say “you are outright ugly”? That is the only question. Everything else works from there. Nobody is perfect, see Krauser for example
/r/seduction09/04/26 07:01 AM
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Everyone is bad at daygame in the beginning. Here are my personal beginner stats which were much worse than yours. You can contrast those to advanced stats a few years later. Btw, the subsection of girls who will be into you from the very beginning is very rare. All lays, investigated critically, have some improbable step in them. The girls did test you, and test you hard at some point. If you are presentable (i.e., not outright ugly, obese or deformed) you have a chance with daygame. The beginn…
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:45 AM
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Because the state you are describing doesn't work. Maintaining girls, and especially high value girls is constant energy output. It is not something you just "have" and can acquire dividends on. The guy who has two 10s around, hell, even just two 7s, is exerting exponentially more energy than the guy who has none. So as a life goal, this doesn't work. Now, neediness and non neediness is not something that is passively acquired, either. Because, to be truly non needy, you have to really not care …
/r/seduction07/04/26 05:25 PM
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Has nobody hear heard the paradox of hedonism? Its cliche at this point to expect that women will solve all your problems in life. Given exposure, you will get used to everything, the novelty will wear off. If you want the full neurochemical game behind relationships and girls, here. But, abundance is only temporary and it mainly involves around having the next girl, not the one you have now, and god forbid, not the one you had one week ago.
/r/seduction07/04/26 04:56 PM
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If you suspect they might be too young, just say “… but you might be too young. Can I ask how old you are” right after the opener. Confirm her age and continue normally or eject.
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:59 PM
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It matters a lot for first date lays or one night stands. Ideally, you could empty the house and be by yourself for 2-3 hours if it comes to those. What is more important is location. Anything that can be close to the date location (within 15 mins by foot) is golden. However, note on homebuying. It will pin you down and severely restrict your ability to travel. There are many places were you can live with 2-3k canadian per month (Eastern europe, east asia and south east asia). When you pay 800k …
/r/seduction07/04/26 03:11 AM
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Mate, I am summarizing Ekman's theory in this post. I have no interest to diverge into general body language discussion. I fail to see how the article you mention can have credibility on based on common sense, just from the assumptions and conclusions.
/r/seduction06/04/26 03:38 PM
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I agree with you, but the point of Ekman is universality (everyone has it) and has scientific backing. The problem with the rest of body language literature is that it anecdotal and culture specific. There are some books out there but there is no “how to” it will come to students via exposure and calibration
/r/seduction06/04/26 02:18 PM
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Progress in intimacy is her perception of what your guys are. If you are holding hands is one thing (on her mind). If you are hugging is another. If you are kissing is another. And if you are having sex is another. The fact that contact has been established is a meta-frame change of her perception.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:50 PM
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One, it is to progress things, but more importantly it is about calibration. How much you progress in intimacy is the only one true measure of how much she likes you.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:22 PM
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If in doubt, escalate
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:21 PM
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Well, by definition, your success with girls is a portion of those you meet. Hence, if you dont meet any, there is your problem. There is no way around it
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:20 PM
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As the wise saying goes: “girls project to their culture (i.e., other girls), what they think about themselves” Belgrade was popular daygame hotspot, so it is definitely doable”. Here is a breakdown of the basic vectors that make up success. And here is a projected journey phase. Cold approach always requires work and nearly superhuman introspection. At least, if you make it, you will know you are worth it.
/r/seduction05/04/26 04:19 PM
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I much more prefer relationships than hookups, but don't confuse the two things: - How fast sex happens, has nothing to do with whether it is turning into a relationship or not - A relationship, doesn't stop you from dating around, in fact, it is optimal like that The only real risk you are running by taking it slow is incongruency. Direct Daygame at least, already filters for interest from the get go, then slowing down in the date is going the opposite direction
/r/seduction04/04/26 04:14 AM
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You need girls to give you the opportunity to "flirt". Then by definition you are in set - no matter the setting. And mind you, for the average men, only a minority will let you flirt (assuming no pre-approach calibration). Again, that holds in any setting
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:10 PM
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Sadly you have to. Because in seduction you are looking for sexual not social interest, and the whole communication that cascades from each is different. This is why there is chatting and there is flirting, and they are not the same. In an improv class you can break the social barrier more easily. It can be good practice if you want to get a tribe going for social circle game, or maybe some forms of nightgame. But even in those you will have to switch gears at some point. For direct game, improv…
/r/seduction03/04/26 06:10 PM
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Here is "how to talk" and here is "what topics to engage with". Dating cannot be structured like the others, albeit part of it repeats often if you approach a lot. If you grasp the fundamentals, it is better to impov than rely on scripts imo.
/r/seduction03/04/26 05:53 PM
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I haven't read that one, albeit not impressed from his "subtle art...". However, I have seen it being sited a lot. I trust your judgement
/r/seduction03/04/26 03:29 PM
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It is the foundational seduction text. Not in canned lines, or routines, but in structure. Sure much of it is outdated, but what is not, is fundamental and better quality than the majority of written material
/r/seduction03/04/26 02:39 PM
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Daygame Mastery, Mystery Method, RM - these are fundamental Then everything goes, but it is an extra. Some other good ones: The Deep Structure of Game, Street Hustle, "50 years of challenge" books are good, and you can get quite good insights from memoirs
/r/seduction03/04/26 01:19 PM
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I disagree with you. Albeit, doing enough sets is a hard pre-requisite, practice and practice with direction are two totally different things. There are only so many things that you can improve infield (for example see here) and then this must be combined with conventional value and inner game work outside. However, I am saying this, still believing that less than 30-50 approaches a week is too few for beginners.
/r/seduction02/04/26 07:36 PM
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Well said mate!
/r/seduction01/04/26 02:38 AM
1

Sydney and Melbourne are your typical big cities. Girls will be too busy and stressed to chat most of the time and your logistics will be horrible. Weather is also totally unpredictable, for example good luck gaming when it is too windy in Sydney, 15 degrees will feel colder than -10. Brisbane is chill with more relaxed vibe but still big enough. Gold coast and Byron bay are also good, but self-select for hippie/surfer types. If you are into that, go for it, but you most likely will have to comp…
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:18 PM
1

How fast sex happens does not hurt your chances of relationship. It is much easier to turn a hookup into a relationship than go for the latter only.
/r/seduction31/03/26 02:45 AM
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Sydney and Melbourne are awful, Brisbane, Gold Coast and Byron Bay are best (in that order)
/r/seduction30/03/26 02:38 PM
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Unless logistics is an issue, then you should try to close the deal on the first date. For example here is a guide. If not, them flaking for second date is always a realistic possibility. Having said that, dont arrange the second date that fast. Leave a day of gap and after some light texting ask her out again.
/r/seduction30/03/26 04:31 AM
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Even if she kept talking to you, this goes nowhere as you cannot realistically meet (geographically). Everything else is irrelevant. Even if you think you find some satisfaction in long-distance relationships. Try to make one IRL and your mind will change fast.
/r/seduction29/03/26 05:24 PM
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You should get what you can get. If can score 7s or 8s, dropping to a 4 is a no-no, you are being avoidant. Otherwise, the fuck ladder is real, get what you can and work your way up. As in any case, if you can get it up/don't feel disgusted about it, it is acceptable quality, your body knows better. A side note: it won't give you any points with social circle
/r/seduction29/03/26 05:18 PM
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Rejection hurts just as hard regardless of the distance. Sadly, to build the skillset, rejection is unavoidable. Believing it would be easier if you lived nearby, for the early stages at least is a myth. A point to consider: based on what you shared, you dont strike me as the run of the mill extrovert. Consider Daygame, it might suit your character better and make logistical decisions a little bit easier
/r/seduction29/03/26 04:12 AM
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If it is that bad, then why not move? And I am not saying just go live in the CBD, parts of Eastern Europe and Asia can be cheaper than that. You can take month long vacations to test the waters. Probably your entire expenses will be cheaper than US rent alone. But back to your point, even with your logistics, this is weaseling. I had SDLs when I was 1.30 hour away from home. If there is strong interest and skill, you can just get “lucky”. But as a beginner, fix your logistics you will get a lot…
/r/seduction29/03/26 03:09 AM
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You need to attempt escalation regardless of vibe - this is called probing. (Its better when it is calibrated, so you get less NOs, but something is better than nothing always) In short, go for it in tiny steps, then see where the No comes. You are both playing your roles in the date - so it is an unspoken expectation that you at least try. How much escalation she allows essentially forms the image of your current relationship (handholding, kissing, bedroom) all mean different things. Therefore,…
/r/seduction28/03/26 04:45 PM
1

Check here for the affects of declining social intelligence. If you want to go full picture, there is also the civilization angle of analysis Opportunities still exist however, and that is the true take-away.
/r/seduction28/03/26 03:20 PM
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Ok, here is your issue, you think you are attracting them. In reality… you are not. 3-5 dates and equal number of weeks… is just too much investment to get nothing out of it. What happens is that you are probably over polite and not try to escalate on time. The girls play off your politeness and milk you for attention. You need to test the waters faster and filter girls faster. You will see that it is much more preferable to have a 5 min blowout than 5 wasted weeks “Attracting” means that the pa…
/r/seduction25/03/26 03:10 PM
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No, they have a strong “No” filter as a response (several scientific experiments to back this up). It is always better to get them on date, but dont be shy there
/r/seduction24/03/26 04:39 PM
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This is generally slow, average is about 1 to 2 dates max (my personal about 3 hours). Here is a guide to showcase the limit of speed. However, the mental leap is the following: you are time bounded with the “get to know each other/show value”, if you overdo it, it starts working against you. All dates begin in the above mode, but at some point within 1-2 hours you need to switch gears. This is the “flirting mode”. You talk only about dating and convos that lead to that, also you start testing t…
/r/seduction24/03/26 04:29 PM
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This is just filtering. There is nearly no skill into this apart from seeing which one is interested and which one is not. Check a true Player’s Journey in comparison and the ups and downs people have to brave in order to get good at this. Not that your thing cant work, but at the end of it there is a qualitative difference in terms of internal satisfaction
/r/seduction24/03/26 07:54 AM
2

Then it is based on the girl. Some will stick as relationships, some others just are not into it at that moment
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:16 PM
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"We had dinner at her place and watched documentaries together" - Why you didn't go for the lay? That boosts attachment and retention quite a bit. Regardless, here are the entire dynamics of relationships broken down to principles
/r/seduction23/03/26 05:55 PM
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In the beginning, you have to just do it. But after you 100-200 sets you should be starting to relax. Lets call this part short term AA, and sadly it is a feature for all of us. You will feel it, but you should be able to push through it more easily. Then while in set you shouldn’t feel it at all. This part comes from understanding the nature of things and your expectations in Game. Lets call this second part long term approach anxiety Regardless, never forget that AA is expectation and confiden…
/r/seduction23/03/26 12:00 AM
2

Here is a full guide for you. Texting is primarily of treading water until you set up a date.
/r/seduction22/03/26 03:04 PM
1

Her receptiveness to you just is. For the sake of the example let us say it is a number X between 0 and 100. All the nods, smiles and eye contact wouldn’t change X itself, they would only give you a better idea of what X is. Maybe eye contact can mean X is >60 for example. But do you see the point now? You will be chasing your tail to figure out a number which is for the most part meaningless. The act of approaching reveals the number anyway. Caring too much on what X is, essentially masks avers…
/r/seduction22/03/26 04:06 AM
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In the beginning you have to plow on. There is no way to magically get confidence outside of trying and most importantly getting irl results. Even if got the girl now, unless you can reproduce it in the future, you will see that it doesnt mean much. Focus on improvement over results
/r/seduction22/03/26 04:02 AM
2

This or this can help. It is always better to use dedicated pages
/r/seduction22/03/26 04:00 AM
2

You are beginning to reach the peaks of your SMV, things are easier by a wide margin in your 30s, way more easy than when you were 22
/r/seduction20/03/26 05:18 PM
0

Here is a texting guide for you. In general the goal is to get them on a date. If she replies you are on the clear. Longer pointless chats dont achieve much
/r/seduction18/03/26 03:46 PM
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/r/seduction17/03/26 06:39 PM
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Use dedicated pages like this and this. Community wings are hit or miss, so at least focus on ones that have come in contact with worthwhile material.
/r/seduction17/03/26 03:42 PM
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Here is a mindest guide on this precise topic. Standoffish, or more precisely attraction, fizzles fast. You need some comfort, or real convo, here and there
/r/seduction17/03/26 10:52 AM
2

Yes, especially if you are in the West. Just for the sole purpose of integrating in your soul that the local fatty who is unpleasant and still gets fk tone of attention, would be begging for scraps in a healthier society. But only do this when you are decently competent.
/r/seduction17/03/26 06:05 AM
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They know whats up very well. Try any direct approach and you will see how fast they will be to dismiss you if they dont like you. That is proof enough that they know if they stick around they give the wrong signals. But attention is the currency of the women, so or orbiters have value in their eyes.
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:31 PM
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Regardless of directly approached or not, they have people courting or orbiting them constantly. Competition is there for nearly all the girls, whether you see it directly or not, as an approach, is irrelevant.
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:57 PM
2

I disagree that by paying it is a way to hold your frame. It is totally irrelevant to the frame. Albeit, note that this is a date from Daygame. If it is a date from Social Circle or other means where you aim to cultivate social relations (as well as sexual) then by all means, it is more smart to pay.
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:07 AM
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You just pay yours and let her order and pay by herself as well. The only truly bad reactions i had gotten to this were from Latinas. And even in those cases it was better to screen it out early
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:04 AM
1

Bro what ? Try read my piece again
/r/seduction16/03/26 04:03 AM
1

Probably he has never dealt with LMR. The only girls who will be head over hills for sex and take it on the chin when you… essentially insult them like that… are girls who are significantly less hot than you. If you wanna be any serious at all, this is madness
/r/seduction15/03/26 01:53 PM
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Isn’t this your first filter, dating apps? It reduces your value into just pictures. Even what you display on the date originates from that first part: she picked you based on how you look. Your character and charisma is built on top of the fact that she already fancies you. So you will only meet the girl who is comfortable on choosing on looks, and also being overwhelmed by 100 men chasing her. Not to say that it is impossible, just understand you are playing with a stacked deck. The general ru…
/r/seduction15/03/26 05:58 AM
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Why you think this is your fault? It is your fault only in chasing the impossible. The modern world does not train women for relationships. Especially so in the West. It is the equivalent of trying to convince a cat to walk on two legs. It just wont happen. The demographics you date specifically, i.e. post 35 women with careers, are a ticking time bomb. Their conditioning for years that led them to bad lifestyles is catching up to them. Have you seen a woman having to own up responsibility ? The…
/r/seduction15/03/26 05:31 AM
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Telling this before sticking it in is the way to go! … have you lost your mind completely ?
/r/seduction14/03/26 04:37 PM
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It is called keeping things vague with the “we are dating”. If anything any talk on relationships should come way, way later, at least a few months in. Honestly, trying to define and make weird lingo about this, like ENM, is weird. It is your right as a man to date around
/r/seduction14/03/26 04:32 PM
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This is a big myth and I dont understand why it is propagated. The faster things progress from meet to date (and to lay), it is to your advantage as a Player. There is no benefit in delaying anything. Even the follow up text should be with a few hours of the approach. What you say might only matter in relationships… but thinking like that post lay is a mistake in and of itself.
/r/seduction14/03/26 04:30 PM
1

Here is a lay report, enjoy
/r/seduction14/03/26 04:09 PM
1

This one might help. Dressing the man from Flusser is the bible of male fashion. Then adjust its principles to how casual you want to look. Saying “dark” fashion when your complexion might not support it is a fools errand
/r/seduction12/03/26 04:31 PM
1

You are wrong here mate. If she stops is a function of: She is aware you are stoping her. Your sexual value in her eyes. None of which is particularly verbal. This is not a general discussion of verbals vs non-verbals.
/r/seduction12/03/26 01:20 AM
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It is not about the words. It is about eye contact, signal to stop and your own personal conviction. After that you can say whenever. If you want to freestyle, again what you say doesn’t matter, as long as it is personal and colorful. Refer here for an explanation.
/r/seduction11/03/26 09:38 AM
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It is ok for the main street, or other well lit areas. If need just leave more distance and open more softly (i.e. side stop). The evening dynamic is a bit different in my experience, it is more geared for instant dates and SDLs rather than the number to date variant. I recommend this dating model for fast idates to bouncebacks. Just be aware that fast escalation is hit or miss, even if everything seemed to be going perfect.
/r/seduction10/03/26 04:34 PM
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That is a long, but normal experience when engaging with Seduction. There is a predictable list of psychological and ego issues, that you need to deal with as you progress. It is analyzed here in detail. But all in all, strap in for the long run, and strap i. For your personality to change as you progress. Many times this journey is a lot more about you, than the women.
/r/seduction10/03/26 02:16 AM
1

As others said your distinction is about hooking up and dating. But even at that, you miss the bigger point. Because the speed of sex, is to your advantage. You can always turn casual to serious but not vice versa. Especially, if you want to get cynical, the speed of sex is positive to the bond you are making with the girl. Fast sex, helps more at building genuine connections (post-sex oxytocin release). In short, the viewpoints are not antithetical at all. The dating part comes after sex and wh…
/r/seduction09/03/26 08:52 AM
2

It is normal, and dry periods in general are normal with this lifestyle. Think that women act as amplifiers: highs are higher, lows are lower. It will feel bad and there is no way of avoiding it, just plow through it. The predictable outcome of this is that you need to tie your ID and self esteem outside of women as well.
/r/seduction09/03/26 02:10 AM
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I would urge you to distinguish two things. One is getting "just" a girlfriend, the other is getting love life freedom, i.e. using dating and relationships to boost your life in general. These are two different things and are explained in detail here. Regardless, for "just a girlfriend" variant, focus on 3 things, not Game, not hardcore self improvement: - New pools of people. Either through meet-ups, hobbies or what have you. As long as you are opening 1 or 2 new pools of people per month you a…
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:40 PM
1

The aim of that article was to arrive at materialism and solipsism of women through a simpler model. Not all written material is for people unwilling to delve deeper into the mechanisms of human nature
/r/seduction08/03/26 06:07 AM
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This is inner game, here is a full guide for you(albeit written for Daygame, which is even harder on this) . Inner Game is something that you have to learn by “living”. In general, you should drop all expectations for your first few months in Game and aim to learn the skillset and be present. Results will come later, the investment pays off to make it worth it. Because at the end of the day, there is no real “desensitisation” of rejection. It always will hurt, it is just how fast you forget abou…
/r/seduction06/03/26 05:30 PM
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By selectively reframing reality (or the Object). Understand that she will place more importance on her mood than the truth, so, in a sense, she will work with you. Therefore, change the topic to happy thoughts or things she likes, etc.
/r/seduction03/03/26 08:16 PM
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If you are good, moving places is about increasing your ratios. If you are not good yet, moving places achieves nothing. That was the point i wanted to make clear before anything else.
/r/seduction03/03/26 05:01 PM
14

There is no paradise. If you cant get laid in your home city, you have no business traveling for it (unless it is Thailand, but that misses the point). Even the more feminine places that used to be cited 10 years ago have changed now. Regardless, general Daygame wisdom cites Central Europe, for eg Serbia and Czech republic.
/r/seduction03/03/26 03:51 PM
5

So if you feel you are worth it, really really believe it? Girls will fall for you even if you are short and fat? The entire core of Game can control at most 10-20% of the outcome. The rest is about the girl and your value
/r/seduction01/03/26 04:37 PM
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Game is about outperforming your fair share. Usually, this means the upper limit is the girl being 1 or 2 points hotter than you. Other times, it means faster and more adventurous sex. However, you won’t see a gremlin dating a hottie. No matter how much Game he has. Now Game itself is multi-parameter, a breakdown is here. But think of it statistically. You do one thing, raises your chances, you do second thing, raises your chances more. Then roll the dice enough times and some girls will stick.
/r/seduction28/02/26 12:53 PM
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A post-wall reporter, probably faking interest for a guy who doesn’t care about her/didn’t try to seduce her. He did nothing you can mimic for a girl who you shouldn’t think is hot. But if you want to be nitpicky and analyze his non-verbals: - body language neutral, could had been a little more relaxed, but passes - speech: talked too fast, a bit high pitch - eye contact: none Again, the guy didn’t care to try for her, her reaction (which is not real attraction btw) is more down to luck than any…
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:08 PM
1

Yeap, my whole point is that you dont need to be perfect to start or get results. Refer to the other comment, I linked an article from Krauser who discussed his ideas in detail
/r/seduction27/02/26 03:35 PM
0

I am not saying you cant improve it, I am saying it is not a prerequisite. Anyway, I am not expert on fitness. Take it from Krauser himself, he did slim up, but he was getting laid before and after.
/r/seduction27/02/26 03:34 PM
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Daygame wise, after you drop below 20% bf, it has marginal benefits. Just dont look fat (with clothes on) and you will be ok. That also means appropriate clothing for your body type, have a saying to how you look. With the wrong top you can look fat even if you are lean
/r/seduction27/02/26 02:59 PM
1

Isnt all modern pua theory based on Darwin? Who inspired Darwin with ideas of hereditary. Does H&M get you laid more than evopsych? But i guess you like to complain on my posts.
/r/seduction27/02/26 10:19 AM
1

Welcome to philosophy. Like it or not that guy has shaped your life more than any politician, youtuber, or writer. Nobody cares if you like him or not.
/r/seduction27/02/26 06:49 AM
2

The Game was always the initiating step, not a guide. It is a good story. MM is the foundational text on Game, not on the routines aspect, but on the structure aspect. It is a recommended read.
/r/seduction27/02/26 06:36 AM
3

Depends on the style of Game. Daygame is one size fits all. Social circle and bar game have their local scenes and variations. Taking a time to adapt to culture (i.e calibrating), is always recommended. But your bar is mental rather than practical. Forcing it however is counterproductive. Take baby steps but dont stop approaching
/r/seduction27/02/26 06:35 AM
0

Long term stability needs discipline… which needs to be trained. The modern world doesn’t offer that. Your request on them is as unrealistic as giving candy to children and asking them not to eat it. Take it from Schopenhauer here, his ideas are the foundation of Evolution and the modern mating theory.
/r/seduction27/02/26 06:33 AM
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What you are looking for is called “sexual hookpoint”, i.e., when the girl gives you the initial interest to begin escalation. Here is a full guide for the concept. But my advice to you, would be to think on the negative: i.e., if she wasnt interested, would she be doing that. The second advice is that any attempt to escalation, even at the wrong time, it is better than none. If you cannot really read signals, make yourself targets. For example at 10 minutes, if she is still there, try light ver…
/r/seduction26/02/26 04:48 PM
2

In regards to education, i don’t think you would need chatgpt to show the regression. In regards to our matters, any AI will hit your piece with so much PC that it would be unrecognisable. Aside o menial editorial work, it is totally useless
/r/seduction26/02/26 04:29 AM
2

Even for Victorian British, marriage was seen a convention to aid society. If you see their writing, they clearly refer to it as a sacrifice of the individual to redirect sexual urges into the society and civilization.
/r/seduction26/02/26 02:47 AM
2

I think some people will just call any text AI these days. Regardless, if you can find one who can replicate my writing, feel free to refer it to me. It would save me a lot of time and effort
/r/seduction26/02/26 02:41 AM
1

I am mentioning it because it is directionally wrong. And just because some girls might still respond to such a conversation doesn’t make it statistically correct over the general woman population. See proper Daygame literature for correct examples
/r/seduction26/02/26 02:40 AM
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Unpopular opinion, but I believe you have no right to chase 10/10s when you cannot get regular success with 7s. 10s require more dates, actual life value, and in general, it is a different game overall. Start by the simple question, do you have a high value male friend? Like an actually successful friend? Start with that before women get into any discussion. Regardless, both cold approaches and dating apps can work with your description. Living with mom is not a problem until the point of bounce…
/r/seduction25/02/26 05:16 PM
2

Fair enough, you are optimizing for a specific audience
/r/seduction25/02/26 02:11 PM
1

While your intentions are good, for Daygame standards your example 2 is also flat and boring. Nothing to model on that. Your words are not playful/colorful or filling any other role other than fluffing out the interview. Maybe you only touched something into the lawyer line, but that is already late. At the core of the matter is communication differences between men and women, as explained here. There is nothing about the man himself being boring or doing something wrong here. Except, here is ta…
/r/seduction25/02/26 01:59 PM
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Whole thing is irrelevant to girls. Also decide if you want to do content creation to grow as a comedian or for the girls
/r/seduction22/02/26 06:23 PM
5

Its a good message but post covid things are… interesting socially to say the least. Its not even about being a shut in, it is about losing social skills, so people dont even know how to communicate properly. If you ever do social game this is becoming a big issue, you need to help girls socialize with the group because by themselves they dont know what to even do anymore.
/r/seduction22/02/26 06:16 PM
1

Here is a texting guide for you, but you are overthinking it. If she replies, invite her out. Dont beat around the bush for no reason. You dont need calls.
/r/seduction22/02/26 06:12 PM
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There is no FWB style for women natively. Their evo strategy is not expansive as ours. FWB is just a complicated trap to lure you into boyfriend.
/r/seduction22/02/26 11:27 AM
2

that is a myth, why are you approaching if the girl has no value to you. By definition an approach implies stake, and stake implies bad feelings if it fails
/r/seduction21/02/26 03:07 PM
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Because it is half the purpose of your life evolutionary speaking. Rejection hits hard on serotonin (status), oxytocin (belonging) and dopamine (expected reward). These are all happiness chemicals in the brain
/r/seduction20/02/26 02:25 PM
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You got a Daygame date (not even a lay) and you are marketing that “achievement” with 3 totally unrelated principles to Daygame as the ones you claim dont work. Albeit directionally correct, you are oversimplifying way too much. It is equally useless to a beginner as your principles set wrong expectations.
/r/seduction20/02/26 09:44 AM
1

He applies through his principles of female psychology. - Women living in the now - The girl is the oldest teenager in the room - Women's SMV peak is a small window in the 20s to early 30s - Women care about relationships and emotions (not facts and data) Are observation if not originating directly from him, at least documented by him.
/r/seduction20/02/26 03:48 AM
1

You showing intent and her accepting it are two different things. Similarly, when you open, of course you start a conversation. But she truly decides to stick around after the hook point. The direct opener is doing a lot of the work actually, but you should be on the lookout when you can initiate kino, strong eye contact or similar during the vibing stage (in daygame).
/r/seduction19/02/26 04:38 PM
1

Daygame is Charisma based, not statue or lifestyle based. A guide to why that is already value add is here. You can showcase that with DHVs and fashion, but DHVs have to wait until the date and high fashion is incongruent with the fast pace style of Daygame. On the other hand, Charisma, if done right is enough. So dont overthink it.
/r/seduction18/02/26 06:21 PM
6

Despite the fact that the definition of "reds" is not compatible with them coming around. The first question you need to ask yourself is the one of opportunity cost, not of outcome. Current PUA debate is whether it is worth it to care for Ambers or filter them out, much more for caring for reds. If it ever works, the effort is rarely worth the reward. You will be also stuck with a girl that fundamentally doesn't fancy you and you rely on 100 other factors to make her stay.
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:43 PM
0

Nope, ideally you text her 1.30 to 2 hours after the number. This is standard Daygame wisdom
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:39 PM
5

Game itself builds on top of science (mostly Evolution) and on top of philosophy (mostly on Schopenhauer actually). The science background used to be mandatory reading for all aspiring Players. It was regarded even more highly than PUA material. Regardless, here is a list of recommendations.
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:38 PM
4

Actually there is a whole book of points to be made (“Smart and sexy” by Roderick Kaine) that women (via HR) essentially hire the guy they feel is most “datable”. In short they initiate it indirectly via the hiring process. Just because this is happening, it is not excuse for the man to initiate in behaviour that is likely to backfire.
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:02 PM
0

You only need Game when she refuses escalation. Remember that Game itself can only affect a margin of outcome. Maybe 10-20% at most. Therefore, you flirting heavily might not had changed anything for the better. The part about sex is normal for your first time (not good, but within realistic expectations). Dont stress about it, learn from it and move on.
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:17 AM
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Is this about Seduction? Do you feel you can get away without toughening up a bit?
/r/seduction16/02/26 11:04 AM
2

Ok many things to unpack. Investment in fashion is good. Dont get a styler, you will have to educate and experiment yourself, either ways, so, little benefit. Use a guide, for example here, or books, I recommend Alan Flusser’s “Dressing the man”. Public speaking class: absolutely no Cooking class: only if you like it, for yourself primarily Therapy: Don’t even think about it. You will probably come out worse and make no progress towards Seduction principles. Only go there if you have a real issu…
/r/seduction16/02/26 10:12 AM
3

oxford - piccadilly - covent garden triangle
/r/seduction15/02/26 03:28 PM
3

Some people go to westfield, but i wouldnt do more than 2 laps per mall. Its nearly march though, you can go on the central route
/r/seduction15/02/26 12:15 PM
1

Have a read at this, it explains how social trust affects seduction (and speed), and how social trust relates to ingroup (strong family, social circle). Kuwait, guessing from your words, probably has low trust, big family influence. That is also common for that region. And therefore you need to understand the following: From meet to sex, it can be as little as 1 hour. I personally have done it multiple times. Getting a girl to step out of her social circle to fuck a stranger in 1 hour, is orders…
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:45 PM
2

Sadly, analyzing the issue logically, doesn't mean you can put it behind you emotionally and operate at capacity in-set. Simply put you are mostly correct, but this alone is not enough to make a difference. You are "mostly" correct, because the rational is a fallacy if you try to generalize it. For example just because headbutting the wall does not hurt as much as getting punched by Mike Tyson, it doesn't make it logical to headbutt your wall. (for seduction the potential benefits salvage the si…
/r/seduction14/02/26 04:32 PM
10

All Asians won’t give you green lights, they will give you amber lights, i.e. will accept escalation, but won’t be proactive on it. This doesn’t rule out fast escalation, for example a guide here. But you need to start monitoring her interest on her body language, not her words. China is by no means truly conservative like other parts of the world. For example Mediterranean is nearly impossible to get girls out of their social circles.
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:14 AM
1

Yes, you should move out, but not for the reasons you stated. Having a central apartment is good for getting lays (less logistical friction), but you are not even getting dates as is. It is better to suck up the long commute than lock yourself into a lease with no reliable prospects of getting girls. The full time job will also only reduce your dating life from exhaustion and stress. As it sounds you will be spending the majority of your salary on a central apartment, so you will not be achievin…
/r/seduction14/02/26 05:00 AM
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Girls will never be chatty if you are a romantic interest. They will shut up and let you “show value”. It might be my personal style that induces this, but if they are talking too much, it is usually an agenda behind. If you are chatty already, then make an experiment. Decide sets for you who you can burn, and once the convo is rolling try to escalate. Hold hands, touching upper arms or hugging and kissing (if in club). You will get your answers. Then you can calibrate based on what you see.
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:34 PM
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First, you are not getting too old. Your SMV peaks on your 30s. Second, in that scenario, I would recommend to try cold approaches with the goal of getting a convo going. Forget about the flirting. See how you can just talk to people. Do this for a bit, and this will help you gauge “interest”. Albeit this will be social interest, not necessarily sexual interest, it will give you an idea. I promise you, unless there is something strikingly wrong with you, there will be a girl to like you. The goa…
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:03 PM
1

Yeap, always remember that the majority of "bad feelings" are fleeting, the next day you will have already forgotten about them.
/r/seduction13/02/26 05:43 PM
2

This mindset is good to get you started, but I would call it a little bit idealistic. As you progress, you will see it is not about denying the feelings of anxiety, but directing them to aid you. For example here is a inner game guide in regards to Daygame. Anyhow, this is for the advanced stages. For your first 200 or so approaches, just focus on being able to "function" while in set. That is the common wisdom. Then you can implement technique
/r/seduction13/02/26 05:31 PM
1

I am also against of recording sets, but if it is really your style to learn like this, either audio record or get a wingman to debrief you after the set. Filming the whole thing is a bit too much
/r/seduction13/02/26 02:32 PM
2

Albeit this is correct advice it is part of the picture. There are two types of conversational skills: Get people to talk, usually about themselves (you missed this style) You talk a lot, take the lead to make the convo good, no matter what she does, for example a guide here Of course, you should eject if she shows less interest than she should, as you correctly point out. But the grey are of interest is larger than it seems. Also her interest will be more about non-verbals than verbals. I have …
/r/seduction13/02/26 02:30 PM
2

Understandable, but as everything in regards to seduction, if you see behind the curtain, then the whole thing will feel less real. Regardless, if you want the more raw version, I recommend the book "Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man"
/r/seduction12/02/26 06:59 PM
1

From the guys perspective, it is frame control, a guide is attached here From the girls end, seduction is always about sex and sexuality. I am seriously wondering if you typing this, is the one falling into the monotony trap, i.e. feeling bored, not your guy.
/r/seduction12/02/26 06:41 PM
0

Here is a texting guide for you. In general, aim to get her on a date, without endless texting. No reason for excessive attraction either. Just enough to be smooth and then straight into logistics
/r/seduction12/02/26 03:08 AM
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If you are asking seriously, and assuming you really believe this. How many of the people here, you think have enough money to have dated girls like this and speak for experience? You are posting either something that is flat out wrong, or doesn’t have a chance to get a serious reply.
/r/seduction11/02/26 05:44 PM
10

Looks matter, but way less than you think. It is the male perspective trying to be established into the girl. What you like archetypically, is not what girls like. Replace looks with a "baseline of value" and you are correct
/r/seduction11/02/26 05:22 PM
1

There is a guide for the "philosophy of learning seduction" here. In general, I would urge you to spend sometime infield to understand yourself better, as most things you have listed are broad topic, which you will get advice, but might be bad advice to you specifically. That said, a note on values. It is better to put them aside temporarily, to "discover yourself", like your (true) inner likes and dislikes, then you can re-establish them into your personality as you become better. People sellin…
/r/seduction11/02/26 05:20 PM
3

There is a guy here. In general, for daygame, i would suggest to use the wing function in dedicated blogs, at least there is some filtering.
/r/seduction11/02/26 12:20 PM
5

You control frame emotionally more than logically or verbally. This will solve your confusion of analysis paralysis. It is not what you say, it is what you feel about what you say. Especially for beginners, you can forget the verbals for now. Think of the feeling of your words
/r/seduction09/02/26 01:37 PM
1

For daygame, use this, and this
/r/seduction09/02/26 01:35 PM
7

after 2 LTR (proper) it becomes very cluttered. Two already means that 4 out of your 7 week-days are blocked. Any more than that, they have to become fuckbudies and hence unstable
/r/seduction09/02/26 07:16 AM
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Before a statement of intent, the “lets date/kiss/fuck” everything else can be smokes and mirrors. Her interest is revealed on how she accepts your escalation, that is the only metric. Sadly, said calibration can only come by crush and burning. So you have to live through it to understand it. Your willingness to crush and burn is the only way to learn this. Generally, if she is overtly nice to you, just escalate, see how she responds to it.
/r/seduction07/02/26 06:16 PM
5

This is the best way to read it. I really dont understand how people cant get over that hurdle
/r/seduction07/02/26 10:33 AM
1

Mate, your peak as a man is in your 30s. You have a lot of time to work on yourself and date around
/r/seduction07/02/26 10:32 AM
0

In general if AA is high, focus the majority of your first approaches on that. Until you cool down, you wont be able to properly run the set. Especially in the club, calling her and walking out can work in your favor if down right. Simply put, you are messing with her, which can be Attraction. The rest of the club also observes this as a power play
/r/seduction07/02/26 10:31 AM
0

You can ideally balance it to 1-2 texts a day, with the purpose of being value neutral until the date. Or you can wait until she is back to re-open. Second option has less chance of date. First option is boring and easier to mess up. I would go for second.
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:54 PM
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Send the first message sooner than later. The interaction will be fresh on her mind. If she replies consistently (usually after 2-3 messages) you ask her out. Texting is to gauge interest, not for attraction or sexual tension. Therefore, see if she replies and ask her out.
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:40 PM
17

It is the wrong question, if sex happens fast, then you determine the direction. Only if sex is slow it is one way street to relationship
/r/seduction06/02/26 02:46 PM
2

There is reputational and rumor conflict. Especially from a source of potential clients (the shop next door). Getting rejected is not free here.
/r/seduction05/02/26 02:10 PM
5

This is a RP topic, not seduction per se. It is not as you say, and definitely you only consider the "Christian" narrative, which was the narrative before the modern era. You are missing way too much historical context. In general, I highly recommend these books.
/r/seduction05/02/26 02:07 PM
4

From your description there is nothing pointing she fancies you. Her behaviour is congruent with the opportunistic behaviour of her request. This doesn’t mean she doesn’t fancy you. It just means we have nothing pointing that this is any different from any random girl before you open. I wouldn’t attempt any flirt/escalation at work or related to work. If you want to wait for a big and obvious hint imo.
/r/seduction05/02/26 01:38 PM
3

Pick a trustworthy model (for example LDM in daygame). Then trust the process. We all think it is impossible, then things happen. Instant dates, street kiss closes, SDLs... but you have to trust the process and soldier on
/r/seduction04/02/26 06:32 PM
2

I recommend this , and also this - Daygame
/r/seduction04/02/26 06:12 PM
1

When discussing theory, we need to write from the perspective of most applicable and useful advice. How you implement it, is case by case. Having perfect fashion is not a prerequisite to get laid, but most people if they improve their fashion will get better results (to the extent fashion matters for it).
/r/seduction04/02/26 03:51 AM
2

Ah, PDAs are public displays of affection. They refuse to allow escalation in public, but that doesnt mean it is out of consideration. 4 dates is a lot of time, and usually the boundary people site in even the most conservative cultures like Russian
/r/seduction03/02/26 10:37 AM
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PDAs are culture specific and girl specific, that is generally acceptable to be all over the place. But you are on a clock for sex. I don’t think more than 4 dates will get you any closer to it, so it is only a downhill from there. Therefore, if she rejects escalation (in private spaces), then she might not be it
/r/seduction03/02/26 09:20 AM
5

Here is a full breakdown of the what you can improve. Albeit written from Daygame point of view, it is universal. It roughly breaks down into: 1. Volume 2. Value 3. Inner Game 4. Logistics 5. Technique Rest assured, you don’t need to resort to fatalism yet, there is a fight you can fight. As all of Seduction, it is extremely hard, but the rewards are great. A few quality girls can completely change your life.
/r/seduction03/02/26 08:58 AM
1

The 10-15 was for indirect. She will judge you on sex worthiness regardless of the approach being direct or not. So even with the indirect root, you are on a timer before she loses interest
/r/seduction02/02/26 06:48 PM
1

Actually, the direct frame, i.e. an early statement of intent does wonders for you. I will not claim it is not part filtering. But dont forget it also works for raising attraction (so it is not only filtering). Regardless, the whole point of being indirect is about delaying strategically when the interaction turns into flirting. You still have to turn it into flirting. So incorporate it as a strategic decision. Ideally this still comes within 10-15 mins of the interaction, unless you have a funn…
/r/seduction02/02/26 06:30 PM
4

I don’t agree you need to opt out for 2-3 years. Your purpose to establish a career is noble, but do it for its own end, not for women. For just women, you dont have to go through that. Regardless, the 30s are your golden decade as a man. Your SMV will skyrocket compared to now.
/r/seduction01/02/26 06:43 AM
1

Dunno man, the familiarity of 4 years makes things against you and matters more than the texting (why you didnt hook up already?) Also, again personal preference: but avoid raves. What do you stand to win more than a 1-1 drink or coffee. It is an extra barrier. She might even think you hanging out for the activity and not for the dating
/r/seduction31/01/26 07:11 PM
1

Factor my personal style: 1) You text too much. Texting should be a get to know you 1-2 texts, then a date request and logistics (try as simple as possible) So once the snowstorm hits, (personally) i would had dropped it to re-engage on a later day. 2) Your obsession with safety… is probably a net negative. It is just too provider/ltr signals. Matters twice in a promiscuous environment like Online. Matters three times in the US where relationships dont have cultural backing to be maintained. Fro…
/r/seduction31/01/26 07:04 PM
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I want you to read again your post, and honestly answer in your heart. If the cost for the 10/10 is to be billionaire,6’4’’ and whatever else you listed… would you really be willing to do the work for that? Then that 10/10 reduces to a status symbol, not unlike a Lamborghini. Yes, it is amazing, but when you factor in the effort you need to put to obtain it… it evens out a lot.
/r/seduction31/01/26 07:00 PM
2

You need to learn to forgive yourself of your past mistakes. This does not mean you shouldn’t learn from them. But you certainly cannot get stuck in the past. Seduction is inherently volatile, take this inner game guide for daygame (the most volatile form) to get the picture. The ideas generalize cleanly to online dating. Note your mistake, and move on. Take it even one step further: Most of the time, only note your mistake from a sample size, because one girl means nothing by itself.
/r/seduction31/01/26 06:57 PM
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Think about context: - she is 20 years your senior, with kids - she responds to you I guarantee not even once the idea of relationship crossed her mind. Just invite her close to your house and escalate. Skip all the pseudo intellectual getting to know each other. The context is clear. The only way to burn it, is either by overinvesting or by logistics not coming up. But above 30, they always look worse in person mate… just the female SMV curve.
/r/seduction31/01/26 03:45 PM
3

Nah, even if there is correlation, it is not a necessary prerequisite. That is for you firstly and for the girl second. Here are the mechanics from Neuroscience. In short what you project, comes back at you. My advice to you, stop focusing on the result and start looking the situation holistically. You might not even want what the other person has then.
/r/seduction31/01/26 10:18 AM
1

Dont proceed. If it blows up, it can go wrong very bad.
/r/seduction30/01/26 06:45 PM
3

Do Daygame, this is the de facto choice for introverts. Once you become good at it, you will see the futility of most social gatherings. Here is everything you need to start. The only downside is that it has a brutal learning curve. But I would argue this is for all forms of Game.
/r/seduction30/01/26 06:44 PM
1

If it is easy, by definition it is the lower end of your potential. Either this or unsustainable luck. A lay is a lay, true, but cold approach does much more for you.
/r/seduction30/01/26 04:33 PM
1

Dating apps are fundamentally not made to work for the majority of the population. It also takes agency out of the equation. You might rack up 100 lays from there… but it feels different, just because of that.
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:46 PM
4

It is not about “cold approaching” location matters too. It is about where to cold approach.
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:38 PM
1

I just posted a very detailed answer mate. But I am not coach by any means, I have only a blog to catalog my theories/experiences, mostly for my own amusement.
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:06 PM
9

Isn't the Red Queen fundamental reading anymore? Sex exists to mix DNA for better protection against viruses and bacteria. When you see girls choose men for unexplained reasons, it is usually a genetic match. For the most part, they gauge this by "smell". [Also why perfumes makes a difference... sometimes]
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:02 PM
1

TLDR: For Daygame: its unavoidable, you will face rejection For Nightgame or Social Circle game: you are playing the room. With some calibration you can only go for girls that gave you green lights and then it seems like you never get rejected. But it is smokes and mirrors, you don't count how many girls they didn't approach. Explanation Women have "choice", beyond the basic attraction threshold for her to engage with you. It has to do with genetics and the purpose of sex (mixing DNA for better …
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:55 PM
2

The thing is: low social trust -> stronger friend/family ties -> an extra layer for cold approach. So OP will be starting on the back foot. It is not impossible, it is harder though. My guess is that on Seattle people date from Social Circle? South Europe and more recently UK have the same problem.
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:54 AM
2

Not from Seattle, but a few points. Whether she will stay and chat is dictated by: 1) Her biology, some girls wont like you 2) The place’s inherent Social Trust. Social trust is literally the place’s openness to strangers. Don’t trust academic studies alone, use your own eyes to be able to tell where Seattle stands. Now on the malicious/shun type of thing. This is not normal, and maybe you are opening the wrong girls.
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:44 AM
1

No man doesn’t get rejected. The point is to realize that even 1/20 is such a small number. Done reliably that is 1 or 2 days “work” to get a new girl… reliably
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:39 AM
2

When i started, I was much worse, here are my stats Just believe in the process. Once you hit the intermediate phase (usually 1 year) you wont believe what type of superpower this is: to go out and reliably expect to get laid
/r/seduction30/01/26 02:37 AM
3

Sometimes they avoid PDAs, especially the Eastern cultures. If you get good signals after all this you should pursue it more, in more private spaces. If this is not an issue on PDAs, the on-off behaviour usually is a signal of something happening in her background (maybe she is in and out of a relationship or something), or something wrong with her. You obviously are within the "romantic part" of knowing each other. Give her the benefit of the doubt, but 2 dates and no kissing is slow in general…
/r/seduction29/01/26 04:46 PM
1

The girls can show signals to multiple men at the same time, then eventually just pick one to have sex. They even do it in relationships to maintain backups, the concept is "orbiters". Normally, you can start feeling confident about a girl only after the post-sex oxytocin flood, and this usually after the 3rd time. That is why we hug them post sex. Again, not saying this is your situation, but this is typical advice given in this setting, to bring people back to reality.
/r/seduction29/01/26 04:26 PM
1

And do you feel comfortable that she might be picked up from a player and have sex within 2-3 hours of meeting him? Not saying this will be your girl, I am saying that you might be over-investing when chances are not in your favor.
/r/seduction29/01/26 04:06 PM
1

Nobody knows that guy mate
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:55 PM
2

Honestly, the best thing you can do for yourself, is to not overinvest and find a girl in the interim. Then whether things will work or not you will find in 2 months You have very little control of the outcome. Any texting that you do is 90% pointless and generic maintenance (in terms of moving things forward). If you want general seduction advice, the fact that nothing happened in 10 days makes it less likely something will happen in the future.
/r/seduction29/01/26 02:10 PM
13

Usually what you seem to look like its “easy” is like a duck on the water. From the top they look calm but their fit are kicking frenzically below. My recommendations, unless you want to emulate specifically him, who doesnt have articulated pick up theory or a system written down. Then forget him and focus on what you can improve for you.
/r/seduction29/01/26 02:07 PM
1

My recommendations are here, in general, i would rank your priorities like this: - Seduction books - Some body language - good for principles, better learn it infield - Public speaking vocalization - you don't really need, you learn better infield - Philosophy books > most masculinity books if you go that way.
/r/seduction29/01/26 08:30 AM
1

My solution was to focus on Multiple LTRs and then when it hits the limit slot girls in and out accordingly… but that is my solution, not perfect answer by any means
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:17 AM
1

Think of girls as chocolate cake. Do you need them to survive … no. Will they make your day better in moderation… yes. Will it backfire if you overdo it on your diet… yes. You should have friends for your hobbies, be ok to be by yourself. Girls are something extra you choose to enjoy for that day. It is confusing because the result is the same with your words, but the origin changes and that is really important
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:16 AM
5

Too much investment for a girl you havent been sexual with. Especially if you are paying. First be mentally prepared that actually might not be sex at all. Then just continue from your online chats.
/r/seduction29/01/26 03:13 AM
1

No offence, but I personally never understand these shorts of arguments. There are no holy types of girls and no low types of girls. There is only “girl value”. This is what matters, her overall value. If it is high enough you will want to keep her around and bond with her. How is it possible to randomly fuck a 9 and then decide not to keep her around? Like what is your plan in that case, dump the 9 and go have sex with the next 7 that comes your way? If you are engaging with girls and then not …
/r/seduction28/01/26 06:30 PM
1

You are thinking the girls as lifestyle enablers, this will blow off in the long run. The way you describe girls are either as friends or sex relief. Neither works. Man to woman has different dynamic, you can't rationalize bodily processes like dopamine and oxytocin just by having others in your rotation.
/r/seduction28/01/26 05:22 PM
3

It is an experience, but you will be dumbfounded how much more experience you can get out of a day cold approaching (specifically daygaming). Even with no skill, your interaction baseline is what you described here.
/r/seduction28/01/26 03:21 PM
1

Nope, having other girls doesn't mean you won't bond with them. Neither will let you un-bond yourself from them once it is over. Having a rotation for the status is just a form of avoidance. If you do it properly, you will feel the ups and downs of a relationship x10, not less
/r/seduction28/01/26 03:04 PM
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No single sentence can sink your date on its own, there was something deeper here that we might never know (from the girl's side). Most likely, her "you are not supposed to ask like that" was a shit test and you failed by apologising and not holding your ground. Only calibration can tell in the moment, but realistically speaking, you didn't say something too crazy given the heavy kissing. (she is free to reject, but this was over the top). Now, "plausible deniability" is the concept you are miss…
/r/seduction27/01/26 06:03 PM
3

Answering the other comments advocating rotations… tbh I believe the most valuable lesson people learn from that is that women are not that fun to be around. Sex is good, but 24/7 is maddening. That is the true key imo
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:21 PM
-5

The Betatization instinct is well documented in the manosphere. You can argue about the process here or there for this specific model. But as long as the framework supports most of reality, it is good enough.
/r/seduction27/01/26 05:53 AM
-1

You have absolutely no clue of what makes female value (… and fertility for that matter). Next in line, will 70 year olds be 10s if they are rich and froze their eggs?
/r/seduction27/01/26 02:33 AM
6

Always trust how much they let you escalate over what they say. Now her rejection on the massage wasnt a hard one. You could (semi seriously) ask to continue and recalibrate on her response. Especially the fact that it happened 3 hours in, it is weird for her to reject it unless not interested. Your kiss to me feels out of place. For kissing you should have a whole prep work. The way you describe it feels too sudden, like a hail marry. Overall, i would say you made an overproduction of the date.…
/r/seduction26/01/26 05:33 PM
2

Because Daygame offers much more freedom, choice and quality over Apps. It also offers geographic flexibility and adventure over social game. Have you seen social game? They have little control who gets in/out and the dating is slow as hell. Also it is a power keg waiting to blow off if you mess up handling the girls in your rotation. But at the end of the day you should go with what you gravitate the most.
/r/seduction26/01/26 05:01 PM
2

Game is a compounding skill. I don’t understand why people think it will give them girls immediately. Krauser, the founder of modern daygame theory, famously, didnt got a lay until his 1000th set.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:54 PM
4

Nothing major, nothing negative. A small IOI depending how she said it.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:41 PM
15

Hmm, not quite, this is too fatalistic for the reality of Game. Part of Game is building: - Your archetype and value - Escalation and conviction (this is value in the eyes of the girl) - Social circles and events (if you do social game) - Habits that showcase your strengths (example: approaching itself) Yes, there are several failure points in the process. If she fundamentally doesn’t like you, you don’t have a chance. But this doesn’t mean that Game doesn’t increase your percentages overall. He…
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:04 PM
1

It is the same as trying basketball 3 points. The NBA player wont have 100% but do better than the amateur. Same concept, but higher failure rates for cold approach. The 1/30 daygamers site is really really small commitment in all honesty. And also yeah, those numbers include pre approach calibration. The girl has to be open to you for it to work out
/r/seduction26/01/26 09:26 AM
5

One comment in all this, you are grossly underestimating your SMP standing. As a man in the late 30s you are at your sexual peak (under standard Manosphere wisdom). Therefore, technically, the opportunities are there and you are not "past it" Just to give a little bit of optimism
/r/seduction26/01/26 05:46 AM
1

Nah, Advanced daygame is about screening for true interest (that is why we have the 1 hour Same Day Lays). You can fake rapport to cheat extra few minutes into the interaction. But it is much more efficient to let her reveal how much she fancies you (or not) by her real reaction. My personal take is to make the open a true disney “experience” with strong non verbals, than assume rapport (which leans friendly). For beginners probably you have a point however.
/r/seduction25/01/26 06:22 PM
1

You never verbalise where this is going or what you "are". If you are waiting for marriage, then no advice is applicable to you - nothing wrong with that btw.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:34 PM
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Personal opinion: but a fuckbuddy is a girl who is too low value to keep her for more. Most rotations have them for the "number" to be big. You will naturally feel the need to text her less and see her less often. From experience more than 2 proper LTRs (i.e. 4 out of 7 days are blocked), and things become heavily unstable in the rotation. Too little time left for lead accumulation and retention. So naturally you will seek "easy" lays and you won't commit to them. As for the wallet, split half/h…
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:21 PM
8

You never verbalise any of these. They accept it naturally if you are the right person (read high value guy) Same age cohort is a myth and you should certainly be meeting more than 3 girls a year with any type of Game. Rotations are not built on a collective basis, they are built with each girl individually, that happen to stay at the same time and for long periods of time. The workrate is equal to having each individual relationship x the number of the girls. You can text them only to meet for …
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:14 PM
6

I think it is a concept somewhere, that the sweet spot is 2 drinks for the girls. Any more and it causes more trouble than it helps. Now whether you have a say over this is case dependent of course.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:09 PM
3

Nah, they sure as hell know how to eject. This is nightgame (sounds like it), they win status capital by having men hitting on them. That is why it is more prolonged.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:06 PM
2

Albeit I agree with your end results, I disagree on the drivers. WIth good game, you can certainly keep her and she won't cheat, example guide here. So a rotation should be for your own satisfaction rather than a defensive tool. Now, with that in mind... yes girls from Online Dating will be unreliable as hell to keep them around. But this is based on their demographic more than anything. Final point, a rotation of more than 3 is inherently unstable to keep running long term by itself. Usually it…
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:03 PM
0

most people entering this dont even know their "self" yet, stop mumbling fiction. That is why it is self discovery
/r/seduction25/01/26 04:35 PM
7

You are close, but the true reason this doesn't work - not limited to pick up - is because your ex acquaintances want to withhold the status quo. This is known for all types of self improvement, from losing weight to education to gym. Unconsciously your friends see your value rise and they don't like it. They see you as a threat, especially so if they thought they were better than you. Everything else is a rationalization stemming from that. Now, one other small correction in your writing, just …
/r/seduction25/01/26 03:09 PM
3

I am dumbfounded that “be yourself” is preached on a seduction forum. Like, do you not believe in self improvement?
/r/seduction25/01/26 11:36 AM
-1

Usually it is the girl who “is” and us that have to adapt to whatever her conscious or unconscious style she has. Therefore dont beat yourself up to much. It is part luck, part filtering and little part of you affecting her behaviour.
/r/seduction25/01/26 08:32 AM
1

Pick up is already a solo venture to care about the opinions of forum guys tbh
/r/seduction24/01/26 06:33 PM
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Many things to unpack here, the biggest thing that it is off, is that you are negotiating for sex. You are making it overt, as if it is a logical decision. The girl was right, not that you need many dates, but on the fact that it is an emotional decision. That was your biggest roadblock. The second observation is that you decided to date her short term categorically. Why? I don't see the point of setting it in stone. You don't negotiate one night stands, you fuck first and then you decide not to…
/r/seduction24/01/26 06:27 PM
3

I will answer in the very practical RP sense: value giving. Value giving is the core of social game and i believe group based nightgame. Correct value giving comes: 1. Position of abundance 2. Expecting nothing in return In short, making the activity fun for everyone, leading with ideas on what to do, organise the drinks/party. For a fixed activity as he has, this can be as simple as leading the discussion and introducing interesting topics or knowledge.
/r/seduction24/01/26 03:55 PM
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But you are missing the most obvious thing… you have no competition. Because it is a social setting, you cannot overtly make a move on the friend. So just focus on making the night fun for everyone. Then at the end of the night you are guaranteed to have social capital to exchange contact with the friend. She will exchange info just as a friend, this is not indicative of anything yet. Now whether she will like you or not is out of your control. But you have nothing to lose by sending a speculati…
/r/seduction24/01/26 02:59 PM
1

Krauser and Mystery probably have stood the test of time the best.
/r/seduction24/01/26 02:47 PM
1

This is good, but don't forget to nuance which behaviour can be considered confident. For every culture/social situation different behaviours can be considered as such. If you try to name confident inadmissible behaviour it might backfire in the long run. In short, confidence is relative, but more often than not, people have more leeway in their normal behaviour to practice "confidence".
/r/seduction24/01/26 01:41 PM
2

But you are not asking the biggest question… can a newbie get a lay out of 60 approaches with no Game?
/r/seduction23/01/26 11:36 PM
1

Fair enough, but I will correct you that this is blogpost image not book cover. Point taken though
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:52 PM
1

That is the point i am challenging, most of these needs don't matter once you fix your dating life. For some of the more serious stuff you mention, like healthcare or clothes. You probably won't be getting girls if this is not fixed. In general studies on happiness correlate income with life satisfaction up to a level, then they dont affect each other. That (income) level is relatively low.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:46 PM
0

Are you reading for the cover image only mate?
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:26 PM
0

Any sustainable system needs: - Lead acquisition - Value Displaying - Conversion - And it has to be repeatable You can be a rockstar and the girls will come to you. Cold approach is just one version that works for most people. You can do social game and be just fine.
/r/seduction23/01/26 05:35 PM
7

Sperm is cheap eggs are expensive. And women are not naturally monogamous. All this together and sex in men is distributed on exponential basis. If you want numbers it has been estimated that 80% of women reproduced compared to 40% for men (or even as low as 1/17, depending on the study). But that is why Game is so important. You can outpace your “godly” allowed sex by a tremendous margin.
/r/seduction23/01/26 11:59 AM
1

Ok, a date flake should be rare. Personally has only happened twice. But mind you this is culture dependent. I think in Russia it is more common for example, I have no clue where US (assuming) stands. My gut tells me it will also be more common in Latin America. And more common through dating apps (less commitment) But still if it happens too much compared to actual dates. Maybe you will have to restructure your process.
/r/seduction23/01/26 05:14 AM
1

You shouldnt organise the date on the approach itself. You make them agree on something that had no time to think or plan out properly. When they give you their number, the fact you will be meeting again is communicated anyway, so no reason to make it overt. It is just impatience if you do so. After all this, 1/2 to 2/3 is normal flake rates, so 50-66% from cold approaches.
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:38 AM
1

You need to do 2 things: Impose the seduction frame. This is flirting and she knows it. This is real. Attraction will blow away quickly after you leave, that is why you need comfort for this part. Honestly, that is it. You can reduce any model to these two things.
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:00 AM
1

This sounds suspiciously clear with the LDM (London Daygame Model). Therefore, you can probably use literature from there (selectively) to aid what you already have.
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:33 PM
21

First you need to decide your persona. This solves 90% of the friction. To do this… just think what archetype fits your character most. For formal fashion, best suited for night and social game, there is a book called “dressing the man” by Allan Flusher. Imo it is among the most well writen books on male fashion. For Daygame fashion, here is a guide. Daygame is hard to style because it is very broad. The best thing to do is pick the color theory and contrast fundamentals for high fashion and app…
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:14 PM
18

The thing in general is that timing of sex determines the direction of the relationship. Within 2-3 dates (ideally first) -> you determine the direction Date 3 + -> usually its a relationship (in her head). So your question, realistically, is how fast you can get to sex. A guide for Fast Escalation is here, but the overall point from your position, is to crush and burn, until you figure out the limits
/r/seduction21/01/26 07:24 PM
9

Evolution, Psychology, Game Theory, life Experience, some Gym, some Money (not piss poor at least) and also Philosophy, travelling and understanding of Culture, education helps. Practice on social settings to be comfortable with the use of Frames and Attraction (rapport breaking or frame switching) Then, good understanding of you own Psychology, some Stoicism and Fatalism mixed in, habit building for approaching and shrugging of rejection. And personal favourite: Neuroscience to connect Evolutio…
/r/seduction21/01/26 06:35 PM
2

Before I answer your specific question remember this: Social Circle Game is built around girls hitting on you first (or making it very obvious). This is crucial, because you forfeit a lot of agency you otherwise have in other forms of Game. In terms of speech patterns: it is meant to be a rotating basis, you talk to person A for 2 minutes, spike attraction, then cut it off and move to person B. You rotate the entire group a bunch of times in the course of the gathering. The goal is NOT to establ…
/r/seduction21/01/26 06:05 PM
0

I am not saying you will have less lays in Social game, it is apples to oranges compared to Daygame. I have heard people having 50% close rates in Social, but it is slower and they don't control who enters the circle. I mentioned social game, because being good at small talk there, it matters, but it doesn't matter for Daygame.
/r/seduction21/01/26 04:06 PM
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The indirectness comment is for the argument completeness. If you have no prior value during the approach, she can only assess you on two axis: Sex appeal (what direct does anyway) Transactional value (the beta way). You cannot showcase status or leadership (i.e., value giving to the group), on the 1-1 setting. Back to your point. Talking to people in general is good, I recommend it. But it won't drastically improve your Daygame. Because the objectives are not the same. Your behaviour at the app…
/r/seduction21/01/26 04:04 PM
1

If you are a beginner, this is normal. Don't expect (consistent) results in your first 1000. Remember, you are building a skillset that will be usable for a long time. For me it took 400 sets to get a lay, Krauser took 1000. Focus on being able to approach without freezing up and have some control of the conversation while being in set, this is the focus for now.
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:45 PM
1

Two big mistakes here: Daygame is very sexual: The intent is flirting, not making friends. The latter skillset is for social game and some forms of nightgame. You can do "social Daygame" but it is vastly inferior in terms of results. Because, remember, you still start with no prior value (not true in Social and Nightgame). The girl will screen you based on sexual appeal anyway, even if you go indirect. It's either this or you will have to show value in the beta transactional way. There is no oth…
/r/seduction21/01/26 03:42 PM
2

She will have to listen to your voice anyway when you meet up. If she doesnt like it, you draw the conclusion earlier (before going to the date). This is better because her liking or not your voice wouldnt change just by meeting in person. But first… voice doesnt really matter. Yes, low deep voice is the ideal, but not a dealbreaker 99% of the time. And second… no need for voice messages tbh. Unless you really enjoy the texting, you can live without
/r/seduction20/01/26 09:05 AM
1

Ok, first distinguish two categories: are you actively trying to learn game? Then you will improve inner game by the adversity of learning game itself. By getting your hopes up and down all the time. The near misses, the flakes, etc. You just have to not give up. But this requires a lot of volume. Are you looking for just a relationship? Then you have no reason to work on this. For real, decide where you are happy and rest there. You dont need to be Roger Federer to be happy in Seduction.
/r/seduction20/01/26 09:02 AM
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Both by “suffering” and by “winning”. Getting girls will eventually normalize the whole thing in your head. By facing rejection and bad feelings eventually you manage to self correct after a setback. Personally, I don’t think it is possible to avoid hard feelings altogether. That is why inner game is hard, it is a lived process.
/r/seduction20/01/26 06:38 AM
1

Hmm… it depends on your view of the LDM. Even by the accounts of TT and Krauser, it is the M3 model (Mystery) applied for the requirements of the street. I.e. you go Attraction -> Comfort / Seduction not admissible in the street stop. Then the date plan is escalating comfort and attraction and transitioning to Seduction from Venue 2 onwards. I agree that it is a structure, but to me it feels like a placeholder structure. That is why everyone freestyles at the end. The later iterations of Daygame…
/r/seduction19/01/26 05:44 PM
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It put unconcious pressure to her for sex, because she thinks if you meet again things will only move forward (and there is only sex left). After she has cooled down from the excitement of the moment (in the date), this decision wont be in your favor most of the time. [Same principle applies if she comes back and you do stuff, but dont end with sex] The general wisdom, is unless you can bounceback, don't do much more than simple kissing. Now the question to you: if this happening too often for y…
/r/seduction19/01/26 04:50 PM
0

Nothing specifically that you can induce. At the end of the day, a cold approach will revolve around the following topics: - where you are both are from - what is are your jobs - what you are doing now (daygame), social setting (nightgame) Once you are in set, conversation is still about you and her, and the DHVs and Value follow Mystery all the way back from 2005, i.e.: - Leader of Men - Takes initiative action, etc. What matters more is how you say it, there is a Daygame concept of "Analog vs …
/r/seduction19/01/26 03:45 PM
4

Two distinctions here. 1) IG, didn't change on its usage: it displays status and lifestyle and advertises that to girls. In particular, i dont think there is IG (or any social media) "memory", because things move just that fast on the internet (your point 2). 2) If anything, I would point the changes you mention are "real people" attitude changes. Accelerated post Covid. The signals remain the same, it is how people receive them. And in particular, most of it imo is a social regression to what c…
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:44 AM
1

Good dedication, but remember: making it in Seduction is a life altering goal. A girl lost here or a girl won there are insignificant at the grand scheme of things. Therefore no reason to regret past failures (or over celebrate ephemeral successes). At the end of the day your life will be getting better on the background, but I don't think it will feel like a major breakthrough, except at small isolated spots. Same principles as long term investing. Finally, if you want some resources to "learn …
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:38 AM
1

Women are not expert psychologists by a long margin. Women just think emotionally and they catch on the points you say… because this is their thought process itself. With experience you will see how unaware they are actually of their own hints to you. Not to assign morality, but to say that unless trained, both men and women are clueless at reading others on a deep level.
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:12 AM
1

This thinking process is in the wrong direction. It took me 400 sets to get my first lay and it took krauser 1000 and John Bodi also 500+ The blindspots on what you say are as follows: - You assume you can convert. With no skill in daygame you wont convert anything. Girls wont magically appear in your bed for approaching. - you forget you are building a skillset. All the people i mentioned managed to drop that number down to 1/30 If these are your first 100, you probably will get a date or two o…
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:09 AM
1

First run comfort and then follow the old adage “if in doubt -> escalate”, see where she stands and build from there. If she is coming at your home, most likely sex is in the realm of posibilities. But dont forget to play it cool and calibrate.
/r/seduction18/01/26 07:22 PM
2

This is directionally correct but you are forgetting body chemistry. Oxytocin (relationships), Dopamine (unexpected reward) and Serotonin (status) all crush in your brain when she dumps you or the relationship ends. So it is structurally impossible to be non-attached. But everything you describe can be applied on to how you deal with the neurochemical crush. I.e, understanding it is ephemeral, or having other options so it doesnt matter (biggest from experience).
/r/seduction18/01/26 07:20 PM
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Speaking from Daygame: real technical structure only exists for the first minute or so. It is about how to stop a girl, give the compliment and how to pivot into a convo. Any daygame textbook can teach you this. But as you can see, this is doesn’t say a lot by itself because it is only surface level. The true skillset is deeper and multivariate, for example check this one. My advice to you: is to first focus on making conversations. Then you can add flirtation and structure (of flirtation) later…
/r/seduction18/01/26 07:15 PM
2

It is not you vs her, it is you vs you. She will act however she wants to act, its on you to decide how you feel about it. Some light stoicism is good in Game.
/r/seduction18/01/26 04:55 PM
2

My personal mantra is to contact only to set up dates. It is a ball-ache to text constantly. If you agree with this, then 1 day vacuum is ok, then on the second day you can send a filler to arrange a new day 2-3 days after that (all in all 4 to 5 days between the dates). This is an ok timeline.
/r/seduction18/01/26 03:26 PM
3

Regardless going on or not, think about whether you are over-investing or not (90% you are). Because this, unregulated, can hurt your future leads
/r/seduction18/01/26 03:24 PM
2

This is common pre-approach calibration for Daygame. The rationale is that neurologically, your brain directs attention to what you perceive has value. You will literally "won't see" unimportant things. There is decent science to back this up. Does it work universally... no. There is a sequence for seduction that works like this: - Unconscious gives the ok: you can engage in the interaction - Then you have to prove value via Attraction - Then there is comfort and finally seduction In this contex…
/r/seduction18/01/26 03:21 PM
0

I agree, but even that needs some "herding" if you let them rumble without a direction... then it leads to nothing, no? You have a way to handle that issue?
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:48 PM
2

The issue begins with your expectations of her. This is closer to obsession than it should be. It is not weather she will reply or not, it is more that you should care less -> for your own mental wellbeing
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:46 PM
2

You are mixing things here. A relationship is not a material transaction. I would argue you shouldn't expect them to initiate things. If you don't feel comfortable with paying or overpaying, just dont do it to begin with. It's on you to self correct the course than on her to initiate. A side note on dutch paying: will you lose some (more materialistic) girls? -> Yes But... it will let you see if girls trully like you. Provision aside, if they stay, it is because they like you. It is an underated…
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:45 PM
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It gets muddie because she is a coworker. Let her take the lead imo and don't force things too much
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:42 PM
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Good job on progress! Generally the golden structure of seduction is: Attraction -> Comfort -> Seduction I think now you are experimenting with things, but I would urge to eventually calibrate and moderate things for their time and place. This process can get really fast eventually, leading to the infamous 1-hour dates before the bounceback, for example a guide here
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:41 PM
1

The problem is, based on my experience, girls have lost their social skills. They dont know how to talk - put simply. [This was rapidly accelerated via covid] The fact that I have to talk more, essentially is to carry her end of the conversation. —————— Now, a side note for America: I know you guys talk a lot there (guys and girls). This is relatively unique culturally, so hopefully my point gets across. Second side note for America: in my experience American girls start with a hostile frame (bu…
/r/seduction17/01/26 05:58 PM
1

This is what is called “state”. Usually you can induce it in-yourself by rapid approaching… but it is a ball ache on the long run. Because every time you go out you have to build it from zero and at some level you become dependent on it. It is much better to acknowledge AA and expect it IMO. Having said that, if you are interested more on the inner workings of AA, here is a guide.
/r/seduction17/01/26 12:34 PM
1

It is constructed and fake. Albeit it is optimized for fantasy and imagination. So if you can navigate the girl for that, then they become useful. But this comes up very rarely and depends on the girl type
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:20 AM
1

You can only build calibration by taking chances and seeing how things go. Seduction is a long term goal. You cannot get suck in a single interaction
/r/seduction17/01/26 07:19 AM
1

The secret of texting is to see if she replies/engages -> then you can ask for the date. Otherwise it is just maintenance to bridge time distances. Unless you really like texting, the convo doesnt need to be witty or interesting. It needs to be something positive until the date. So calibrate your replies and time to respond based on when is the next date
/r/seduction16/01/26 03:36 AM
4

it is social trust! People are closed off and assume everyone will scam them or is low value
/r/seduction15/01/26 12:45 PM
2

But this is an extrovert list. I believe most people that resort to Daygame do so because they cant stand social circles. Also in many of the social circle examples, you don't have control over how many new girls you will meet. You need to factor personality and availability.
/r/seduction15/01/26 12:27 PM
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If you want a deep dive on how Culture affects game, here (Essentially, social trust) The consensus on London is that it is hit or miss. Your approaches might go: blowout x10, then on the 11th she is a Super Yes girl. Now, what you notice, goes backwards to you in Americas. American tourists in Europe seem to be chatty, but the whole thing is superficial. If you boil it down to the interactions that matter, my personal experience is that ration either converge, or are better towards Europe.
/r/seduction15/01/26 12:25 PM
1

A 2 hour drive back is not SDL "ideal", albeit your instict is correct to focus on SDLs when logistics are generally bad. Pre-emptively getting a hotel is over the top imo, and getting a hotel after opportunity appears, means you make it overt, which is not ideal. If you are shuffling cities a lot, then use heavy calibration on the smaller cities. They can sustain 20-30 approaches every few months or so. If these are really calibrated, they can net you some dates each.
/r/seduction15/01/26 05:51 AM
0

This is inner game issue, here is a guide for it. Now onto advice: the “approach only girls I like”… is an excuse. Once you become more experienced, you will truly know which girls you like. But for now, it doesn’t matter. “I am getting butterflies”: this is normal, it wont go away for quite some time (usually 200 sets). Until then focus only on this part, being present onto the convo. No reason to seek results. If they come before that it will be from luck, so might as well focus on the skillse…
/r/seduction15/01/26 03:11 AM
2

Yeah, but nobody expects to get all girls from daygame. That is also why pre-approach matters I would say 1/5 to 1/10 give genuine desire once people can know the difference
/r/seduction14/01/26 06:51 PM
2

Good stuff, most of these hold because the first decision on whether she will engage with you lies in the lymbic system. Passing that test is prerequisite for everything else
/r/seduction14/01/26 01:26 PM
3

The issue lies with your question itself. Even if you dated, like this, it would be value taking. The endgoal of seduction is Internal Abundance. You are now assigning value to the girl's career, without even asking who the girl is, or if you genuinely like her. Even if you get her, it would be no more than a status symbol to your friends. That is one way to be sad, even with a superbabe next to you. In short, only the internal aspects truly matter for your satisfaction in seduction.
/r/seduction14/01/26 01:21 PM
23

If she is inviting you at her home and she is not super sick, sex is on likely on the cards. In general, being at a home massively increases your chances. Because it is first meeting, you need to go over all the escalation steps however. Treat as a normal date imo, just with the potential to be faster
/r/seduction14/01/26 04:18 AM
1

there is still a power game underlying commitment. You cannot just brush it off on morality. If you text back immediately it can lower your chances on most leads. Even mechanically, you are putting pressure on the girl to reply back, with no horizon to when this text exchange is going to end.
/r/seduction13/01/26 01:22 PM
1

Older women have lower SMV by default, fertility drops sharply as they age. It is not that hard to hit on them. It is just about if they are open to it from their personality. And that is hit or miss
/r/seduction13/01/26 01:13 PM
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Here is the guide for shit tests, from first principles. Yes, this is probably a shit test, you need to assess how honestly she says things. Did she had alternatives? did she respect your schedule? The correct reaction is to go with your plan and ignore her attempt. Albeit, it is a grey area. She has to have a very bad personality to be manipulative here. Unless you suspect her it is not that bad to find a middle ground.
/r/seduction13/01/26 12:45 PM
3

Ok, you need to realise that the Attraction space for girls are not the same one as ours. For us it is visual. Hot means φ ratios and nice curves. For girls “hot” can mean many things, but usually means social dominance and power. Now dating apps, take this vast girl “Attraction space” and collapse it to a few photos and a bio. It is unnatural. Therefore the people attracted to this short of thing are either far below your value (in looks) or something is wrong with her choice. This is not to sa…
/r/seduction13/01/26 08:38 AM
0

After you sleep with a girl, in all honesty you shouldn't be getting much shit. It is a real red flag from her if she gives you trouble or plays coy post sex. Now, I will give the benefit of the doubt for the Indian culture, it might be something specific to there. But I will also ask if you are misunderstanding the terms you are engaging with them. If your behaviour is congruent with the one-and-done situation, do you turn it 180 degrees later on and try to make it seem as uphill battle? It wou…
/r/seduction12/01/26 05:30 PM
1

hmm... I half agree, let's decouple your writing. There is a concept of Meta-Frame: a frame to determine later frames. These are the big jumps, for example if two people are kissing (action/frame) then a whole bunch of things can be derived from there. For example, hand holding is usually a given from this. When you mean big jumps we are talking about Meta-Frames. Now to initiate those Meta-Frames, usually the best way is through physical escalation (i.e. any physical step on the way to sex). Ri…
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:23 PM
1

It has too... and there is a big argument that people who make are running away from inner demons. But this number is for consistent results, i.e., intermediate Game.
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:04 PM
1

Yes, it works but it is not as it is dramatized. First the barrier to improve your life is significantly lower than "slaying it". You don't need a new lay every weekend, you need 5-10 quality lays and your whole life will change. After that you will see, that you will engage with Game out of subjective personal goals: novelty, true interest etc, not out of necessity. Second, it takes work. A lot of work, depending on where you start at life, the average is about 1-2 years until consistent result…
/r/seduction12/01/26 03:47 PM
1

Here is a full guide for you. Essentially 3 things: Probing Learn to read subtle queues It is ok to crush and burn And the old adage: “when in doubt, escalate”
/r/seduction12/01/26 01:43 PM
1

Not to dissuade you, but community wings are usually shit. Past beating AA, the majority of the progress is your personal task, wing or not. Of course, if you happen to luck out a good one, it can make your progress stratospheric (but usually this means you found an experienced guy)
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:39 AM
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It gets boring fast. Remember it is a girl’s instinct to try betatize you after the honeymoon phase. In short, it can be good (if you up for it), but it is certainly not like the movies show.
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:36 AM
1

Yes, but you are reducing the mystique of the approach. Point is, taken altogether: - the benefit is marginal (we can already get dates about 1/10) - you can mess it up (extra risk) - it gets boring quite fast That is the Daygame wisdom and mine experience as well. But if you like them, go for it
/r/seduction12/01/26 04:33 AM
3

practice doesn't make perfect. Directed practice makes perfect
/r/seduction11/01/26 08:31 AM
0

If you have the cash just move to SE Asia, you will likely find a girl for free after the traveling investment
/r/seduction11/01/26 05:31 AM
1

these are natural male traits, to focus on something external. Take a moment, what will fixating on a girl achieve for you?
/r/seduction10/01/26 03:01 PM
1

But... why do you need to "have fun" aren't you there to for a purpose (to hit on girl)? I am not saying you need to be suffering, but why are you fixated on having fun alone in a club... when you are not supposed to be having the time of your life like that?
/r/seduction10/01/26 11:06 AM
1

This usually goes contrary to most Seduction advice. I think it is even impossible to be systematized and unless there is a community about, maybe you will have to resort to pure luck.
/r/seduction10/01/26 06:05 AM
2

This is the observable outcomes of a deeper theory. I would highly recommend "The WEIRDest people in the world" - Heinrich for a deep analysis of the mechanics of the following. Essentially, all the concepts of economics, value exchange etc. that modern economics is built on, depend on rare traits that the West developed, mainly accidentally (and not always for the better of the community) Same is true for Daygame because it is based on SMP theory, i.e., economics applied to seduction theory. In…
/r/seduction10/01/26 05:48 AM
3

You go bud, but remember, solidify on attraction by testing if they accept escalation. Attraction will fizzle fast on its own
/r/seduction10/01/26 05:05 AM
1

They don't add anything extra, aside of our inner ego boost. If you think critically, those extra 10 mins are not necessary. But honestly, do what you like, that is what seduction is for.
/r/seduction09/01/26 11:48 PM
1

Depends on your location. Usually, it's either/or, dates/idates. If the country has high tourist intake, it is not uncommon for idates to even be 1/5 If the country has people that are bad at scheduling (mediterannean) then idates are also more common. If you are in the West, just do dates. The best idate is 10x more volatile than an idate or sdl attempt. It is always preffered.
/r/seduction09/01/26 10:47 PM
2

When in doubt, escalate - that is what you asking them out does. It sees if the interest is illusionary (only on your mind) or something real. If they don't come out on a date, most likely there wasn't interest to begin with and you imagining it. Otherwise there must be something wrong with your text game that destroys any interest you had built up. Advice - you don't need many messages before asking them out, 3 or 4 back and forths is enough - people text out of necessity, not as an end. Ideall…
/r/seduction09/01/26 08:08 PM
1

More power to him, then. This is for the best. But I will point out that this is not unique (theoretically) to India. Mediterranean is notoriously hard to Daygame as well
/r/seduction09/01/26 07:29 PM
1

Good job! However, i will point out you are playing on hard mode in India. There is a concept of Social Trust, that academically predicts clan dominance. Clan dominance implies that people stay within their social circles/family, or even worse, those groups discourage connections with outsiders. In India, this is on steroids, hence at a fundamental level there is friction in taking the girl out of her circle's crutches. There was an article on Dayame and Social Trust somewhere about this Daygame…
/r/seduction09/01/26 07:00 PM
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