"Arguing" with women

clutch_guy · 2014-07-23T00:13:22+00:00

All good advice. I prefer to quote Vladimir Putin “It’s better not to argue with women,”

IllimitableMan · 2014-07-23T00:29:47+00:00

Something really simple I've come across is when someone accuses you of loving to do something but in a negative way, eg: "Oh you just love to oppress poor wittle women don't you?!" and you reply "what's not to love? I love women" except you've taken out the negative word, that's it, it's literally a matter of removing the negative word and reframing with a filler question.

You can deflect pretty much all accusations like this "vandaleen is proud of being a cunt" (what's not to be proud of? I'm in love with myself) "vandaleen is trying to undermine me!" is a sentence where you can't use that style of deflection because there's no positive word to spin it with, so you just go simple agree and amplify "yes, I undermine everyone with my supernatural powers" blah blah blah. Once you master it dealing with peoples shit tests becomes really mechanical, it's almost like chess in a sense, it's purely strategic and you can win every time, in a way, it's a really crude guide to wit.

The worst thing you can do is try to make a logical case with women, they simply don't give a shit, don't waste your time or energy, you don't win like that.

FYI: if you use agree and amplify in a dominance shit test, you fail the shit test. You can't just go through life agreeing and amplifying on everything. It's the topic of my next article so I'll go into more detail with it there.

Invalidity · 2014-07-23T01:34:25+00:00

Also, women will often times nuclear shit test you in front of other guys if you aren't bending to their will.

I called a friend out on her bullshit and she tried to cancel on a trip that our group had planned weeks prior. I ignored it, plowed through and said adios. No doubt I got some shit from people for it, but because I didn't back down and apologize, they didn't attribute fault to me.

hohamocha · 2014-07-23T19:19:46+00:00

Arguing with women is fucking pointless. They place more emphasis on feelings over logic. So if you get into a debating argument with them they will either try to push you away for not believing what they believe, or will try to back up their arguments with feelings. It is best to just treat them like children having tantrums and do the stuff stated in the post.

Logic does not exist in their world.

2chronicles34 · 2014-07-23T09:50:58+00:00

First two points apply to all conversations with women, not just arguments. Pointless to have any factual or serious discussions with women. Better just to be goofy and flirty with them if you have to talk.

Best way to get out of the friendzone is to never get in. Best way to handle arguments with a woman is to never get in a factual conversation.

Disagree that "agree and amplify" works here. Trying too hard. If you're trying to win; you've already lost.

Hold frame but you don't have to "have fun doing it." Don't have to be fun all the time.

Tringi · 2014-07-23T16:00:24+00:00

OT: The first point reminds me of this Tim Minchin piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTHfkrG4b0M#t=2567 (43:00~44:00)

omg_cats · 2014-07-23T06:00:09+00:00

"extreemist" "your gay" "promoting satin" "angery"

Is this guy serious?

Opioidus · 2014-07-23T07:15:24+00:00

Short, dismissive, condescending, humorous disagreement = Alpha!

Complimenting, mutual-approval-seeking, suck-up agreement = Beta!

Rational discussion, fact checking, serious disagreement = Omega!

Title	"Arguing" with women
Author	vandaalen
Upvotes	34
Comments	18
Date	July 22, 2014 11:08 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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