I guess we aren't allowed expectations.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-07-24T15:15:26+00:00

And you're surprised by this?

Mention anything that makes a woman uncomfortable (like setting rules and boundaries) on a relationship sub and you're going to get hate for it.

Ill_mumble_that · 2014-07-24T15:34:43+00:00

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iggybdawg · 2014-07-24T17:17:12+00:00

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TheIronViking · 2014-07-24T19:32:45+00:00

Nope, and not just regarding sex, but everything. I was utterly SHAT upon for mentioning that if I were to date a women, she would need to at least know the basics of cooking and I'd pick a girl who hits the gym over one who doesn't. Never mind that earlier in the conversation they talked about their expectations, and it was everything you'd imagine. The guy needs to be hot, have money, gotta be fit, no manlets, can't be boring.

Essentially they all wanted Chad Thundercock while we are told to take whatever we can get.

kick6 · 2014-07-24T16:27:44+00:00

At this point it should be obvious that, if it gets downvoted heavily outside this sub, you're probably doing it right.

iggybdawg · 2014-07-24T18:35:37+00:00

There is a reason AskMen is referred at as AskBetas. While RP truths will emerge from time to time, the sub is exceptionally blue pilled when it comes to being proactive in relationships. They are exceptionally pig-headed about the idea that male = action, female = reaction (and thus to get a good relationship, you must act first with purpose and intent, not just wait for her to magically become what you want her to be).

It should be clear now that while TRP will make women uncomfortable and grossed out in a "ewww, what the hell!" sort of way... it will make men downright furious. Men who have failed to live up to their own standards of masculinity and have accepted a subpar life for themselves will hate you for proposing that had they been stronger, their life could have been completely different. Suggest that had they held frame with their GF and commanded her loyalty, she might not have cheated... they will freak out and you will get hate messages (I have). Suggest to a man in a dead bedroom situation that he needs to change, he's going to flame you, just like he was a woman.

Men and women are very different, yes, but androgynized beta males are nearly indistinguishable in behavior from... androgynized female hamsters. Which is why AskMen is basically a 1% more masculine version of AskWomen.

AlienSunrise · 2014-07-24T16:17:22+00:00

This here is the reason I come to this subreddit so much. I know that my opinions are going to match the vast majority of you guys. I get so annoyed at society sometimes and it's nice to see that so many of us recognize it, and know the loopholes to still come out on top. TRP is truth in its purest form.

barmaleo · 2014-07-24T19:31:36+00:00

Dude, reddit is a weird place. I liked it when I frst stumbled upon it few years ago but apart from some number of subreddits it's full of pointless shit.
How to spot difference? Good stuff can be found in proactive subreddits where people do shit over there. Rest of the reddit with little exclusion are just places to bitch and complain. And it's full of weird and crazy people. Go check out 2x or relationship subs, nearly 50% of posters are crazy over there by their own account, bipolar and shit, eating meds like candies. If not them, then it's their spouses, partners or relatives. AskMen is in the borderline crazy spectrum. AskWomen is in the middle of it, 2X, shitreddit army or whatever they are called is the extreme case.

HAMMURABl · 2014-07-24T19:40:34+00:00

briffault's law:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

prawson · 2014-07-24T22:46:27+00:00

I never thought of it that way. This sub is really opening my eyes (found it today) -- things like this never seemed fair to me, but I didn't know how to articulate my dissatisfaction.

DankPanties · 2014-07-24T18:49:23+00:00

What he doesn't expect is her hair to be everywhere.

Overkillengine · 2014-07-24T20:54:05+00:00

Solipsism indulgence in action. To the down-voters a man is not an individual with their own needs and desires that have to be met in order for him to stick around. He is just a provider of resources and entertainment.

Of course having that pointed out is verboten, that would mean they'd have to actually recognize their own culpability in their failed relationships.

If you don't feed a dog, don't be surprised when it gets its kibble from somewhere else.

xwm · 2014-07-24T20:43:14+00:00

suggesting consequences

This was where you went wrong right here (truthfully it's where you went right, but I digress). People nowadays do not want, nor need the burden of accepting the consequence of their actions, or that in order to maintain a stable relationship, both parties have needs that need to be met (hence being a need).

GameboyPATH · 2014-07-25T01:41:48+00:00

There's a couple issues that I can see with your proposition, which may explain the downvotes, if you're interested:

The consequence of moving out, which would likely result in ending their relationship, is way too extreme. You're making the assumption here that sex must be a dealbreaker topic, when we don't know how important it is to OP in the context of his relationship. It seems rather sexist to men to assume that the man is a horndog and absolutely must get the amount of sex he wants from his woman. Can we really assume sex trumps any other positive qualities OP sees in his gf and their relationship?
There's no suggestion of negotiation. If OP wants a relatively high rate of sex and his gf wants a relatively low rate, the obvious solution would be to compromise somewhere inbetween. It's generally assumed in relationships that one partner considers the interests of the other partner, and this requires understanding and acknowledgement of what they want out of a relationship. Relationships need both parties happy in order to last, not when the sexual needs of one partner is satisfied.

Title	I guess we aren't allowed expectations.
Author	iggybdawg
Upvotes	134
Comments	57
Date	July 24, 2014 2:51 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2blk7r/i_guess_we_arent_allowed_expectations/
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