Why do women live in a world of lies?

103342 · 2016-01-29T16:15:27+00:00

In nature, a woman that has sex with a guy has to carry his son for 9 months. Go through risks, and later take care of the child, without being sure that the father will stay to see the whole thing.

It is evolution, she needs to test you to see if you are worthy of her womb.

Women don't want guys that need guidance on how to be men, in fact they are disgusted of guys like that.

Her pussy is valuable, dick is cheap.

Only there is a factor in our society that doesn't exist in nature: Birth control pills and the like.

Sex now is a recreational activity, but the instincts are still there.

Also, guys lie too, but we lie to ourselves also. We say we like sluts, very rarely you see a guy (that's not very naive) do slut-shaming. The ones that do most of the slut shaming are girls.

idgaf- · 2016-01-29T16:46:21+00:00

You need to distinguish between white lies and real lies. The "lies" they tell often fall into subjective categories, and can never be actually verified, only intuited by watching her actions.

They say they want a nice guy who take care of them and be good to them, but they really want an asshole who will take advantage of them and tell them what to do.

That's just your perception. They really do believe in this statement, in their cognitive mind. They will arrive at this statement every single time, unless they are profoundly introspective and have a history of their own actions to deduce their true nature from.

They say they want you to open up to them and share everything with them, then as soon as you do, they're thinking "wtf, why is this beta bitch crying?"

Of course they want you to open up, can you imagine saying the opposite? There's no disclaimer that their attraction will be unaffected by whatever you reveal. They want the whole truth revealed to make the best decisions. You would too.

Deep down they don't want a guy who's a follower. They need leaders, strong men with power enough to control reality. That's what a shit test is, a test of your reality (frame).

Cyralea · 2016-01-29T17:23:19+00:00

Men historically effected change in his surroundings with power and brute force. The strongest male wins, takes resources, procreates, has strong sons. Women never had this luxury. Evolution favoured women who could effect change using men's power. This is why they're naturally good at manipulation.

This is why they're so comfortable with lying. They had to be.

leftajar · 2016-01-29T20:44:42+00:00

Because the world is hostile, and they're not equipped for it.

To elaborate, imagine this: think about the normal emotional responses you have in your life. The little ups... the little downs. Maybe you get startled by something, and get over it a few moments later.

Now imagine that the magnitude of those emotions is multiplied by 5x, AND you cannot prevent yourself from absorbing the emotions of other people.

My best analogy, the only way I can even approach some understanding of this, is to remember what it was like the first few times I took psychedelic mushrooms. I was sensitive to every little thing in my environment, my emotions were all over the place, and could change in an instant, and I picked up vibes from everybody. I described this to a female friend once, and she told me, "yeah, that's pretty much what it's like to be a girl."

So, being a girl is like having the emotional aspect of a psychedelic trip 24/7. Hence they cling to lies and bullshit, because it's the only way many of them stay sane and prevent themselves from crying all the time.

youcantdenythat · 2016-01-29T17:10:46+00:00

I think it's more a world of delusion than a world of lies.

FrameWalker · 2016-01-29T17:54:50+00:00

We want a woman to look good and suck our cock from time to time. Of course if we admit this to women, they'll take offense and break up with us.

Woah woah woah hold your horses. This is pretty much what I tell all plates 2 months in. Usually when they start to feel competitor anxiety I say "keep looking young and taking care of littleframewalker and you have nothing to worry about"

If they say "you only want me for sex" it's a shit test dude. If she gets mad it's because you fail the shit test or failed others and she's betabuxzed you.

"I could also use a sandwich, kitchens downstairs"
"is that all you have? "
" and this is a problem because... "

So they force us to lie and say we like them for their personality.

You do this because you are outcome dependent. Lying has its place but it's easier to just polarize the girl. Make her accept being your whore or walk away.

mr_nate_ · 2016-01-29T22:17:34+00:00

Short answer: It's easier.

MattyAnon · 2016-01-30T00:53:25+00:00

Why do women live in a world of lies?

Because it benefits them to do so.

Saying "I want a nice guy" is just words to get men to do stuff for them. It doesn't stop them getting an asshole. But it does imply they are nice, get men to be nice to them, get them resources. From men they don't respect. While they fuck Chad. Simple.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2016-01-29T23:57:51+00:00

Men are simple and straightforward.

So, you've never met a group of men who could think themseleves in circles?

This amounts to saying "I think men are simple because I'm a man and I understand how men think. I think women are complicated and delusional because I don't understand their emotional and psychological goals, intuitively."

Women are as complicated as they need to be to accomplish their goals, like men. Once you understand what their goals are, their behavior makes pretty good sense.

_SexMetalBarbie_ · 2016-01-29T19:56:40+00:00

That's like saying, "Why do Christians lie? The fossil record clearly indicates that evolution is true, so why do they insist on spreading that creationism b.s."

I was brought up by women who really believe what feminism tries to tell us about social dynamics. It was so ingrained into my head that I was supposed to want a nice guy who listen to my feelings, fawn all over me, be at my beck and call, cry with me, blah, blah, blah that I really believed that's what I wanted.

Right up until that's what I got, and it was horrible. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me that I was growing resentful of this guy. I didn't want to talk to or look at him, and I felt so guilty for feeling that way. I stayed in the relationship for far too long and actually hated him by the time I broke it off. I thought there was something wrong with me for not appreciating him as he was.

I couldn't even tell you how long it took me to realize that I wasn't the problem. It was literally an epiphany moment at a coffee shop: I am submissive by nature, I need a strong leader as a compliment, a strong leader isn't going to bend to my every whim, feminists are ass holes for telling me what I should and shouldn't like, feminists are also ass holes for telling men to submissive, how many other peoples' heads have they messed with?, I bet there are a lot.

yGTWgtNrco · 2016-01-29T22:01:46+00:00

This reads more like an observation than a question. But, it's a good one, so have an upvote, my good man.

Title	Why do women live in a world of lies?
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Date	January 29, 2016 4:00 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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