Does her conversational ability really matter?

RuleZeroDAD · 2017-05-31T19:15:38+00:00

When my wife met me, she knew of my reputation, but was undeterred. She negged me on our first meeting:

"So I hear you think you're smart."

We challenge and laugh at each other almost every day 19+ years later. Work towards that.

dancing_with_God · 2017-05-31T16:44:33+00:00

Married for 8, together for 14.

My wife is a champ.

She is submissive, funny, sexual, and just a natural feminine chick.

We don't always care about the same shit and I constantly remind her that I'm not her girlfriend and don't give a shit about what tiffany wore to work today.

What she brings to my life is worth dealing with some of the more retarded conversations we've had.

At the same time, we've had some incredibly insightful discussions as my wife is rather intelligent, way more book smart than I.

We haven't gotten stale because we keep our own lives interesting as well as our life together interesting.

Live a life that gives you guys something to talk about and you'll be fine.

fuckmrp · 2017-05-31T20:49:38+00:00

I'm not currently married, but I will be. I'm not currently engaged, nor am I in an "ltr".

And this is how you fuck yourself. If your primary goal is to get married and secondary finding someone worth marrying, well what do you think is going to happen?

Forget about marriage and focus on yourself. When YOU are awesome you will attract awesome women (and shit bags). When you find an great woman ask yourself this: Am I a better man for having her in my life? Does she contribute value and do I appreciate her contributions? It's not complicated, you will know.

Or you can just get married "cause it's your snowflake journey" and in that case I look forward to reading your victim puke in a couple years.

drty_pr · 2017-05-31T17:21:05+00:00

I dated a lot of girls who were more submissive than my wife. But I married a smart, pretty, shit-testing machine. I got bored with the other girls. It's your preference, man. No girl is going to have it all; except apparently TFA's lady-- if she even exists ;) Just gotta decide what floats your boat in life and go for it

red-sfpplus · 2017-05-31T21:06:55+00:00

Do you know the old saying "kids should be seen and not heard"

Well your wife/LTR/whatever is the most responsible teenager in the house.

Teenagers are kids. Do the math. /s

dancing_with_God · 2017-05-31T22:15:48+00:00

all that matters is you both like fucking eachothers brains out

BluepillProfessor · 2017-06-02T01:00:49+00:00

I just don't find her opinions on things particularly interesting

Thank God I thought you were talking about marrying a man.

What is it like talking to your wife?

Before TRP: I pour out my heart. She produces a list of items to do. I get pissed. No sex is had. I get more pissed.

After TRP: I STFU. She produces a list of things to do. I decide whether or not to do it. Sex may or may not be had. I don't give a fuck.

anythinginc · 2017-05-31T17:27:36+00:00

I just don't find her opinions on things particularly interesting

Sounds like something I would say about a plate who wasn't down to fuck enough.

As a pompous insufferable intelligentsia, I get wanting deep conversation from an academic/interesting partner. I also know the fallacy of trying to find a mate this way. If she is attracted to you, and you are attracted to her, you can have deep, interesting conversations; and the banter will be great. Almost any woman can kick almost any man's ass on the emotional intelligence spectrum anyway, so you have to learn how to appreciate that, and the two of you can be a formidable couple.

I was more interested in what she had to say back when I first met her.

Again, back when she was fucking you more. Also, you were sharing your stories and lives and experiences from before you met and getting to know each other. Now you do everything together and haven't grown much or done anything or read anything and so there is nothing new to talk about.

You have to be enchanted by her in every moment!!! Otherwise you're not in love and shouldn't marry her!!!"

The hidden RP message in this is that there is not enough attraction or compatibility between the two of you to sustain a long term relationship through difficult, or even just non-interesting times.

I'm not really interested in talking to these women to the same degree that I was interested in talking to disaster-girl.

You are codependent and loved the validation of being needed by a broken woman you could enable. Sidebar bro. NMMNG is for you.

Why do I feel the need to co-create this relationship?
What familiar roles does this relationship let me fulfill?

Answer those bro. Disaster girls are addicting, but not healthy, and using our "your woman is your mirror" philosophy, we can see that you are not healthy either. Can you not get the validation you need from a woman who is not broken and does not need to be enabled by you?

dancing_with_God · 2017-05-31T18:00:16+00:00

Currently engaged, together for almost 2 years.

As my last post indicates, I just got back from a week long trip with the LTR. Other than some "chit chat" and a small handful of bar conversations, LTR was the only person I talked to on the trip. I enjoy talking with my LTR. When we met, we didn't have a lot in common life experience or hobby wise. That is probably our initial conversations were so interesting, there was a lot to share. But, that didn't change as we got to know each other better.

LTR is a good conversationalist and debater. I believe this is attributable to the fact that she's a good listener. If we are having a conversation, she will listen to my story or explanation and only interjects when she has a specific question. If we are debating something, she doesn't interrupt me, but knows how to play devil's advocate and ask the right questions to get me to fully consider my position. Currently, we have more interests in common, but also separate interests that we can discuss. LTR is very inquisitive, and I have enjoyed teaching her about new topics (golf, soccer, video games, films, etc.). We also enjoy having political/current event discussions.

I would bet that your last LTR was so interesting because she was a train wreck. She spewed endless drama and "I'm so complex and deep" nonsense that she kept you entertained. That isn't sustainable because at the end of the day she was still a train wreck. You expect new girl to be just as entertaining, but she just can't seem to replicate the drama and intrigue of your former nightmare of an LTR.

First, ask yourself why you need a LTR that you text, and call, and email, and blah blah blah to all day. There's no one in this world that I want to talk to endlessly 24/7/365. My LTR included. Your need to constantly amused and entertained by others is something you should consider working on. Would you go crazy if you were stuck on an island with no one to talk to for 30 days?

Second, ask yourself if you're interesting. When I first met my LTR, she had zero knowledge of golf. I enjoy golf. I watch a lot of golf, and I play a lot golf. I had to teach her about golf. I explained things as we watched. I had her drive the golf cart a couple of times and explained why I made certain decisions, or why I was pleased or dissatisfied with my performance. She asked a lot of questions. Now we can have a decent conversation about golf. Heck, I think she might even be interested in playing herself. But, if I had tried to have technical conversations with her in the beginning she would not have had anything worthwhile to add. So, are you engaging her in conversations where she has enough knowledge to provide you with interesting opinions?

mrpmaybe · 2017-06-01T03:41:44+00:00

I'll address the question in your title, and not the one at the end.

I care a lot about girls who are smart.

Because there are a ton of pretty girls that are smart, and I can afford to.

You didn't mention how old you are. I'm mid 40s. Been a lot, seen a lot.

You also say

My last relationship was with a disaster of a girl, but I loved texting her throughout the whole day, talking to her in person, and staying on the phone with her until 3am.

So, let me tell you, there is a lot of room between those two extremes. And there are a lot of girls who are both smart and pretty.

Now, if you are asking if the perfect wife is smart, I have no idea. I have several friends who are in relationships with girls who aren't very smart, but they get what they need/want out of the relationship.

I even have one friend who is not very smart... had tons of women when he was younger, was way successful with women out of all of our friends, but he found it important to have a girl dumber than him. He found one. They're really happy.

She's cute enough for me to bang, but NOOOOOO way anything else. So it all really depends on what you need from a girl.

screechhater · 2017-05-31T21:56:32+00:00

I Fucking hate Trunp. But wife even more. So I love him to her.

I voted for Oboma. So did she. I told her he was a Fucking idiot regularly

She has her masters. I don't have past an associates. I make 6 figures. She makes high 5.

She likes dick. I like pussy.

Got it ??

Title	Does her conversational ability really matter?
Author	dancing_with_God
Upvotes	4
Comments	24
Date	May 31, 2017 4:39 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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