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(FR) Catch and Release - I'm improving

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April 12, 2017

Pulled up to a car park today. Out of the corner of my eye I see this blonde stunner getting out of her car. She walks fairly close to my car and glances at me so I say "excuse me, how do you get to the town centre from here?" (Legitimate question, I'm new to the area).

She tells me in a foreign accent. "What's that accent?" "Polish" she says.

"What are you up to this afternoon?" I say with a grin.

"I'm on my way to a job interview"

Me: "What's your name?"

(Tells me her name)

Me: "well you deserve a reward after your interview - put your number in here (pull out phone) - I've got a meeting now but I'll call you after and we can go for a coffee"

She puts her number straight in my phone.

So this part of the interaction went perfectly. When I finished my meeting I called her to ask how she did. Said I was "proud of her" which got her laughing. But then when I told her to meet me she flaked, said she was tired after such a long day. I tried to sway her to a point but she wasn't having any of it.

3 reasons she could have flaked (in my mind):

  1. Her buying temp had dropped after that first initial attraction.

  2. Her car was looked more like one you'd see driven by an older businessman rather than a young single girl - maybe she wasn't single.

  3. I called making sure that my number was withheld - I'm not ready to give girls my own number, what if she texts me later at home and my wife picks it up. Maybe this made her suspicious of my intentions or something.

What could I have done differently to actually achieve the 'coffee date' today?

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Title (FR) Catch and Release - I'm improving
Author Jimbocaan
Upvotes 8
Comments 8
Date 12 April 2017 06:03 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206293
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/64wfht/fr_catch_and_release_im_improving/
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[–]The_LitzRed Beret10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not even hookers answer witheld numbers. She only answered because she went for an interview and was wondering 'what if it is them' calling.

If you have to hide your number to call me I don't even answer the phone.

You looked scared, insecure and married withholding your number.

Catch and release means getting the number, no more. You would have had a good shot of OI if you hadn't called, now you are left doubting. But being rejected is also part of the game and will also build into confidence once it stops bugging you.

Carry on.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

how do you get to the town centre from here?

What's that accent?

What are you up to this afternoon?

What's your name?

She was going to an interview...now the second of her day thanks to you. Too many questions on your part.

Open with the question, then make statements.

What's that accent -> That accent sounds...

What are you up to this afternoon -> I feel like a coffee this afternoon, you should join me.

What's your name -> It's too bad I don't know your name.

Also there is no emotion or connection here. Get her to laugh, DHV, and Push/Pull.

[–]ArchwingerRed Beret6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Day game is a little less direct than club game.

You need to talk to a girl for about...let's say 2 minutes, about some banal small-talk topic, before you ask any personal questions. During this interaction, you gauge her interest by her body language and how she talks with you. You also drop little prompts that might trigger her to ask you a question about yourself or to tell you more about herself, but without asking.

After about 2 minutes of this bullshit, but no more than 5, it's okay to ask something vaguely personal or segue into something personal about yourself (but make it interesting, and don't go on and on about the details -- let her ask you more questions to keep her invested in the conversation). If you haven't hit a point where you can segue into something a bit more personal by 5 minutes, she's not that interested, and you're hitting the awkward part of the conversation where she's starting to wonder what the fuck is wrong with you.

Around the 10 minute mark (which can go up to 30 if you're somewhere more social where you can sit, like a coffee shop, but probably not more than that), you can tie up a conversational thread, then dismiss yourself to go on with your busy day and let her go on with hers. At that time, ask for her number.

The direct, fast approach can get you a number, but a few hours later, when that guy she talked to for 1 minute and gave her number to on a whim calls back from a withheld number, she doesn't fondly remember how normal and safe you seemed and how interesting you were and how you had her giggling a few times during the talk you guys had. She just remembers you as this brazen creep who asked for her number like a sledgehammer and is now calling from a withheld number.

[–]innominating2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your little interaction failed to demonstrate your value and failed to build comfort. She didn't meet you because it wasn't worth it in her mind. You need to ramble longer and go for the date before the number.

Example: blah, blah, blah (find something you are passionate about talking to her about) blah, blah, then:

"it sucks I have to get to my meeting, this conversation is interesting, what do you say we meet back up for coffee after your interview."

Her: "yeah"

You: "number"

[–]beta_no_mo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get a Google Voice number

[–]BobbyPeru2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You moved to fast and it ultimately made her perceive you as low value.

It's kinda like when a chick posts a provocative pic of herself on Facebook or other social media. All the beta pop out of the woodworks with their little comments like "damn," or some kind of sexually "clever" BP comment that validates her has high value and the beta as low value.

All you did was gave her the validation she needed right before her interview, and she rewarded you with a phone number

You need to be the prize instead of the validator

[–]Aaren_Augustine4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

An emotional void is kind of like a vagina, and woman don't want to be inserted into it, to make you whole.

Now maybe it would have taken a "coffee date" to figure that out, but she was neither caught nor released.

Now, women have an affinity for breadth and depth of personality. Like a big mental cock, it tends to get them all emotionally aroused

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too many questions. Sounds like an interrogation. Also the "you deserve a reward" comes off cringey. Either call her number like a man or don't, but blocking your number or whatever is pure weakness.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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