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[–]TheRealMewt13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can honestly see this devolving into PurplePillDebate 2.0. Let that be a platform for anyone looking to debate Red Pill and Blue Pill ideologies and let their own mod team sort out their shortcomings.
I've always figured that if anyone wanted to discuss the merits and shortcomings of what we talk about here, they'd come here to say something. What do you think it means when there's an overwhelming silence from our detractors who are unwilling to come here to call us out?
[–]XXXmormon0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A person with an even keel, who finds he disagrees with some key parts of TRP would be less likely to feel inclined to enter debate than a person who feels repulsion at the language present here, yet can't quite put it into words what about this sub they take issue with. The kind of debate that arises out of this tendency looks purple to me, as far as I could see there.
[–]SgtTRP6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As it stands, most people who come to /r/DebateRedPill to "debate" don't come to debate at all. They come for their own agenda which is exclusive of having an open mind, intent to learn about the other's side, and changing their mind if they are proven wrong. /r/DebateRedPill is the place where people who do have an open mind, are interested in learning, and are able to concede if the other side is right.
How is opening a new sub change this?
Bad debating will result in bad debate points being awarded to you, and incurring 3 of them will result in loss of posting privileges.
Then won't they just keep posting here?
[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let them do it themselves if they feel like they need to discuss it. It is a waste of time and energy in my opinion.
I don't have no desire to have discussions with people who don't even understand the basic principles of what this is all about. I don't discuss geo-politics with my daughter as well.
Plus I have definetly no desire to have discussions with women on this topic. If I want to deal with hamstering I just go and visit one in real life.
Visiting some of the blue pill examples provided here makes me puke, cringe and laugh way enough.
I also don't think this would serve the purpose, but only distract new members from the real important things.
All these discussions have been lead before and won't lead anywhere.
If that sub is modded by red pillers it will always be branded as being biased and mysoginistic and if it is modded by blue pillers you will have a place where you are only allowed to SJW-approved language and discussion.
Edit: I am actually quite surprised that this is proposed by an endorsed contributor.
[–]alreadyredschool1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As it stands, most people who come to /r/DebateRedPill to "debate" don't come to debate at all.
you mean /r/PurplePillDebate
[–]1TheReason130 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not likely. Aristotle was correct when he said that an informed mind has the ability to seriously entertain an idea it does not agree with, this important in the name of knowledge.
However, as humans we reactively reject what we are not comfortably familiar with. It is too easy for people to feel offense at the thought of their views being proved inadequate, and their natural reaction is to devolve from logical debate to emotional attacks. Once one side degenerates the other follows.
[–]Broseidon2410 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For this to work, everyone here should be open to the idea that they are wrong about some things. Most people interpret "I have a slice of pie" as "I have pie, so I know about all pie everywhere" and not "I have a slice of a pie."
[–]LibertarianLibertine0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dont see the added value, i know that i wont be attending that sub.
[–]2Occams_Shiv0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I suggest making How to Disagree
either a permanent sticky at the top of the sub, or the first link on the sidebar. DH0 and DH1 should result in an instant ban. DH 2 gets one warning, and everything else is allowed but below DH4 is frowned upon.
[–]Modified_Hackware 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do I care if people are "unsure" about theredpill?
[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not going to say not go there, but this thread belongs at /r/trpofftopic
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