MGTOW vs. being involuntary celibate

bakbakgoesherthroat · 2014-10-05T04:39:08+00:00

After finding out the true nature of women and coming to the conclusion that their ideal partner does not exist, some guys lose the desire to deal with girls.

kempff · 2014-10-05T07:44:20+00:00

I'm semi-MGTOW and explicitly vol-cel.

Yeah, I guess you could say I got burned in my last relationship, but, I'm just done with women.

I'm also old, 47, fabulously successful, and I just want to live my life in hermitude, with a small cadre of male friends who "get it", garden a little, and die.

TFCNU · 2014-10-05T06:03:21+00:00

MGTOW's are not necessarily celibate. A lot of MGTOW's are older, divorced guys who have no interest in repeating their mistakes. They oppose long term relationships, not casual sex. MGTOW's object to dedicating your life to the pursuit of sex because they see it as acting for women instead of yourself. The criticism they have of TRP (when they criticize; a lot of MGTOW's are supportive) is that they see it as just another way of giving women what they want. The whole point is don't put pussy on a pedestal.

luciansolaris · 2014-10-05T06:07:46+00:00

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toysjoe · 2014-10-05T05:43:03+00:00

Even if some MGTOWs are incel, these are most likely the men who are most susceptible to being Beta-Bucked. The more of these Beta-Buck potential men check out of the system, the better it is in my book.

Isaiah4verse1 · 2014-10-05T11:47:48+00:00

I usually expect shaming language from women.

Neo-ReactionaryHarry · 2014-10-05T16:36:24+00:00

I don't really mind MGTOWs, I think especially for a temporary point(like 6 months or a year) without women to get your life(job, family, moving, etc.) in order can be extremely helpful. However at it's core belief I think I can quote someone when they said on MGTOWS, "It's not going outside because there's garbage on the streets. It's the ultimate surrender." While I can completely sympathize with them, I don't identify with them.

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-06T00:55:43+00:00

MGTOW is not a permanent condition. It begins as a "monk mode" stage.

Basically it means you just stop caring and do your own thing. This has an element of Alpha because you are clearly captain of your own ship, but just have no crew at the moment. This can change later if you decide to spin plates. What makes MGTOW different than a LTR is that your response to women with bad behavior will be an instant "next". LTR's demand a much higher investment in holding frame than MGTOW.

An Incel is the sad pathetic beta boy who has no dignity and longs for a girlfriend. He's hopeless and will remain hopeless (confused and depressed) until he finds Red Pill.

Summary:

Incel (pathetic beta boy) - Major investment in an illusion, hopeless and clueless.
MGTOW (monk mode or spinning plates) - No or small investment in women.
LTR (holding frame) - Major investment in women.

[deleted] · 2014-10-06T01:53:59+00:00

its a stupid accusation leveled by morons.

if you are mgtow and aren't incel you will know it. conversly if you aren't you won't know it, and possibly be made a fool one day.

I don't think incels can be discernably mgtow since they are conducting air business with wishes and promises to themselves.

sadshark · 2014-10-05T06:20:43+00:00

Truth be told, they are most likely incels. While I admire their lifestyle choice, I truly believe that if a male had the opportunity to fuck several females at once can never go back to not never fucking another female.

Personally, I think they are just hiding under that acronym in order to avoid stepping out of their confort zone, just like MRAs are trying to change the world but not themselves.

MGTOWs are the purest form of apathy and surrender.

Title	MGTOW vs. being involuntary celibate
Author	Short-Guy
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Comments	27
Date	October 5, 2014 4:28 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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