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Meet the woman who charges Betas $60 per hour to cuddle

neighborhood_man
July 24, 2014
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Title Meet the woman who charges Betas $60 per hour to cuddle
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neighborhood_man
Upvotes 18
Comments 44
Date July 24, 2014 9:26 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–]TheUltimatePoet 56 points57 points58 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

From the article:

About 90% of her clientele are men between the ages of 20 and 75, and she says many suffer from severe traumatic diseases or disabilities that prevent them from having frequent human contact.

I think that sounds completely acceptable. Guys like that don't really count as betas.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

yeah agreed. probably doing a good thing

[–]NAmember81 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where I live there are lots of ads in various places that advertise cuddling and that's all there is that's not a scam. So healthy males actually fork over money for this thinking that they will get laid or thinking cuddling is code word for an "old fashioned" then still pay once they are let down.

[–]1ZAQXSWCDEVFR1 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's so dumb and hilarious at the same time.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]LeatherJacketQ18 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

She is not gold digging imo. It is an upfront cost, what you pay for is what you get. That is pretty much the opposite of what a gold digger does, pretend to love a man when really all she loves is his money. She is upfront while a gold digger is hiding her true intentions.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Theophagist 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong with this? You have a need, you don't want to wait/work for it, pay someone to fulfill that need. I think we should all know by now that sexual penetration is not the only form of affection men need.

[–]Andress1 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would find someone a huge loser if he paid 60$ for this bullshit.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strippers charge $20 a song for the same service- lol.

[–]tallwheel 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female contact and validation is a lot more important to men than a lot of people estimate. It's not all about sex, and oftentimes betas do not even get the contact. This service makes sense. If the men want sex, they will pay more for it somewhere else.

[–]back_in_towns 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cuddling, and other such forms of weirdness, already comprise a pretty significant service industry in japan. There's a decent vice documentary online, for the curious.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

More like she is a professional blue baller. I wonder how many guys left feeling cheated because there was no happy ending. Bunch of sad guys out there are better off buying a hooker.

I wonder in her 40 hour certification process she'll cover boners popping up in this non-sexual service.

[–]1ZAQXSWCDEVFR1 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

/u/Theophagist said it best.

I think we should all know by now that sexual penetration is not the only form of affection men need.

We all feel the need for human contact. If you don't, that means you're probably a psychopath.

[–]Mild111 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

sexual penetration is not the only form of affection men need.

Agreed, but I think the real issue is her advertising model, not her business model.

Most hookers would be fine with just a cuddle for a decent price, and if one day you wanted a hand job instead...boom you got one. The problem is that this chick has gotten free publicity on every news site, while your average street girl is using code words on Craigslist...so all of these awkward dudes who don't have a clue on how to find the real thing, started swarming her. Not to mention the sheer amount of dipshits who go into such a situation thinking that they can make a wife out of her, regardless of her "waiver"....these fuckheads know they can't do that with a hooker.

I also noticed this: "About 90% of her clientele are men between the ages of 20 and 75,"

Oh, you mean the age range of 90% of the consenting age men also happen to be the same age range as her clients?! Shocker! I knew right from this "statistic" that the author was a woman, without reading the byline. Clear attempt at making her writing 10 times more interesting by throwing in pointless fucking information. I mean seriously...who the fuck did you think she was cuddling with? 5 year olds? 90 year olds?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's too general. Of course we all feel the need for human contact, and yes there is a range, but sex is primary. These guys really want steak, but are asking for salad. It's as if they are paying to be friend zoned when they would really rather be having sex with the girl.

[–]1ZAQXSWCDEVFR1 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. I don't know. I've gone on a 2 week long wilderness expedition by myself once. The need for human contact was very intense. Much more so than the need for sex (except like right before I'm actually having sex, when I get horny like that all bets are off). Don't get me wrong, I loved every minute of the trip, but it's really hard to go that long without meeting another person. I can't imagine what prolonged isolation would do to a person.

So maybe it's not salad vs steak, maybe it's a 5 course meal vs a 6 course meal.

BTW, I don't actually think you're a psychopath.

[–]MahagonyXY 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I used to work as a stripper, whenever guys would rent me out they would always get boners. You get used to it pretty quickly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure she gets use to it, but she's trying to make this not about sex when it totally is. Both parties are lying to themselves if they think otherwise. Let's see if her customers are willing to cuddle with dudes.

[–]MahagonyXY 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever cuddled with a dude before? Cause I did a 3 way scene with another dude back in college, and the end had us spooning together. It's pretty awesome, even if you are straight. Try it some time, you'll probably like it way more than you think you would.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bromantic relationships can be pretty cool, but I draw the line at spooning.

[–]yea_tht_dnt_go_there -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I haven't cuddled with a guy before... But I am straight and do love tag teaming a girl with one of my buddies. I've 3-way'd with three seperate girls and it was always a great bonding experience with my guy friends.

The nastiest shit i've ever done to a girl was in threesomes. It's like "babe you have two dicks in you right now, I know you'll do anything else." Plus it was always so easy. If A girl had a crush on ME only she still would happily agree to a 3 some if I requested.

Most guys in general public look at me as less of a man almost, but its like, I didnt fuck my bro, we didnt even kiss. We just got really filthy with this swamp donkey is all.

[–]MahagonyXY -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Three ways are cute, but if you can get a woman to lick your butt-hole, that means she's actually down for anything. Compared to that, a 3 way is child's play.

[–]yea_tht_dnt_go_there 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah they are cute, because its so easy to make happen.

[–]MahagonyXY -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. The real challenge is getting her to lick your butthole.

[–]Psiden 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You posted a interesting link that we could possibly connect to redpill theory, but you gave no analysis on this. What are your thoughts? Otherwise this is just a link to nothing providing little to no value aside from us pointing out women behavior in the comments.

[–]VarsitySlutTeamCpt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You guys think I should open up and do the same thing?

[–]Chirp_Downvote_Celly 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You've been spending our rent money on phillipino hookers?

She's not a hooker, she's a professional cuddler

"She'll cuddle your cock for money" "There's a word for that, I think it's 'hooker'"

YOU'RE A HOOKER!

[–]MooMooMooN 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHficJLPeSQ

[–]NAmember81 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

How much you want to bet the up selling begins the second she walks in the door.

[–]MahagonyXY 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

She has no real incentive to actually put out since she has a stable income and a solid grasp on an unfulfilled niche just from cuddling. If men want actual sex, they just go to back-page or adam4adam like everyone else.

You sound bitter.

[–]NAmember81 -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Where I live most ads are for "cuddling" and everything else is an extortion scam or crappy nude messages for $200. You must be pretty naive to think that she doesn't provide a "message" aka "mutual masturbation" for extra money. How are you going to have stable income getting only $60 an hour and buying gas, driving everywhere, setting appointments which aren't a guarantee. Compared to the "message" or mutual masturbation hookers that get $200 an hour and do the same thing but allow the men to wack off looking at them and have a lot of business.

[–]MahagonyXY 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Okay, first she says she books 6 days a week. Lets also say that she schedules 3 sessions a say and takes 4 weeks of vacation a year. That's 48x6x3x60, or about $51000 a year before taxes and expenses, more than enough to survive comfortably as a single adult. She could absolutely offer sex jobs, except that exposes her to a different, more risky set of clientele which comes at more cost and personal danger to her.

Believe it or not, not every woman is willing to give a blowjob for a cheseburger and a ride home. They have these things called "standards". Also, you don't really sound any less bitter.

[–]NAmember81 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I doubt if she just one day was like "I'm going to kick it up a notch and let them wack off and look still me for 5x the amount than usual". It will be repeat customers that they know and trust that will offer them 300 bucks to see her tits or ass then next visit the beta client will offer 400 buck to wack it while she shows her ass. She doesn't have to advertise that she will do this because plenty of older men with money will fork over this cash it a heartbeat. I've known several girls that have got cars from old wealthy dudes in exchange for "company". This girl is not making 51,000 a year just "cuddling", it would just be one time clients with very very few return clients then she would get maybe 3 suckers a week to pay to cuddle. Because like you said they could use backpage like everybody else and get off for $100.

[–]1ZAQXSWCDEVFR1 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

She's making 51K a year for cuddling. Get over it.

[–]NAmember81 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you like 12 years old or something? I looked at your comment history and you just make up the most ignorant facts then you make fun of the commenter. One of your "facts", "studies have shown that men who have slept with more than 5 girls are considered less attractive." Where the fuck do you come up with this shit?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]NAmember81 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

The fuck is this link? It clearly says in the first sentence that the study is regarding "non-human females" lol so there was no control group and this is just a headline grabber not based in reality. This is not a scientific study and states that young women do in fact "mate copy". You are a troll and I'm not fucking with this anymore so GFY.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]MahagonyXY 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Once again, People have standards. When a waitress subtly flirts with you when she's bringing out your fried chicken basket, that doesn't mean she wants to fuck you, regardless of how well you would compensate her.

I pretty sure that you don't know any girls with legitimate sugar daddies, and I know for a fact that a huge number of crazy hot (Think 20 year old actual porn-stars) draw their personal standards at having a sugar daddy, regardless of how much it pays. Sometimes, avoiding degradation is worth not getting paid, because not all women are stupid shameless cunts.

Finally, you can absolutely make money cuddling. When I used to strip, there would always be a no touching policy, but I still got crazy tips and made a pretty stable income. If you have an exclusive hold on the market and run a reputable business, you could absolutely pull 60$ an hour and have return customers. A therapy visit costs way more, and probably provides roughly the same benefits.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I bet she wouldn't turn down alpha cock if it ever became an option to her

[–]MahagonyXY 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You probably wouldn't either.

[–]patriarchal_overlord 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Neither would his mother. I'd know.

[–]Chirp_Downvote_Celly 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This'll show those TRP jerks, hehehe

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