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"Society has killed men. I was never meant to live in this era anyway." - War Machine in his suicide note

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Title "Society has killed men. I was never meant to live in this era anyway." - War Machine in his suicide note
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Date October 21, 2014 9:39 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]robocopsboner41 points42 points43 points 11 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

He still doesn't accept accountability for beating the shit out of a girl (who has him completely wrapped around her finger and can toy with his emotions) and repeatedly mentions being remembered for his strength and 'alpha male shit', while he's planning on ending his life rather than face the consequences of his actions. He's quoting philosophers, but lacks the self awareness to think about their ideas and grow intellectually. Had he been born in a different time like he wishes, he'd be long dead, because his hot-headedness would have gotten him killed by someone equally as stupid, but taller than 5'2". Yes it would suck being in his position, but luckily for me I don't have a Napoleon complex and fall in love with girls who get cummed in for a living. I have a hard time giving a shit about the plight of a guy who calls himself "War Machine".

[–]ThousandTruths -50 points-50 points-50 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe she can "toy with his emotions", but she will regret it for the every waking minute of her life, when seeing her smashed face in the mirror. Don't fuck with alphas.

[–]Red_Pill_Theory 17 points17 points17 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She might be a shitty girlfriend, but that doesn't mean she deserved to get beaten up. If he were a real "alpha" he wouldn't have ended up dating her in the first place. I mean, she's a porn star. Great for sex, bad for LTR.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Beating a woman is no more "alpha" than kicking a puppy or shooting a kitten.

Clearly the guy is physically formidable, and is not a coward. Nevertheless, beating someone who is far inferior physically is a sign of lack of self-control and nothing more.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Plus his suicide note reeks of beta

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

Look, I'm not one of these guys who says, "suicide is bad, derp, something something mental health something therapist." No. There are fates worse than death, and ultimately it's the call of the individual.

But, if you think your life as a high level athlete with (presumably) plenty of cash is so terrible that you need to end it all, perhaps you need some perspective. A trip to Sierra Leone might help.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not RP, that's beta thinking. Treat women just like every other person, don't give them special treatment... If a guy comes up to me yelling and swinging, he's gonna get knocked the fuck out. If a woman starts clawing away throwing punches, she's gonna end up with a smashed face.

Once society stops protecting dumb abusive cunts, they'll start to realize they need to keep their hands off of people that can easily physically overpower them in the first place.

You don't dart out into the middle of traffic and then get mad about a bus running you over.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If a guy comes up to me yelling and swinging, I'll likely gently choke him out and not harm him that badly, unless he manages to land a hit on my face, which tends to enrage me, or seems to actually pose a threat, which is rare. In all likelihood, he is like a puppy to me, not unlike a woman. This was clearly the case with ol' War Machine.

There are a myriad of ways of dealing with spoiled children, misbehaving pets, and hysterical women, and in my experience, most humans. None of these involves beating them badly. None of the above pose any real threat to you, and if they do, then you need to re-assess your physical capabilities. If they are angering you to the point where you lose control, you need to re-assess your self-control.

[–]Endless_Summer-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can teach someone a lesson and still be in full control, whether it be mentally/emotionally or physically. That's what alpha is all about.

[–][deleted] -1 points-1 points-1 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]1Dev_on0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

u wot m8?

there's not a single assertion in there that anyone should be taking at face value

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're the kind of person that gives this sub a bad name

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're the kind of person that gives this sub a bad name

Sometimes I upvote these guys just to piss off feminists. And sycophants. Like you.

The red pill is not a place to disagree based on image and perception and gut reactions. Argue with his point.

This one's not even very hard. Maybe something like "Although you are indeed right in that it would be unwise to fuck around when you have a boyfriend like war machine*, there is no evidence to say that she actually was fucking around. WM by the looks of things is no more than a mentally deranged toddler acting on his uncontrollable whims, pedastalizing his slut in an extreme case of oneitis."''

One of the best parts of TRP is discussing anything no matter how politically incorrect it may be, and sometimes discussing ideas that you may not agree with. Do not fuck this up by caring about what people outside think. That is all.

For example, I think /u/_xen brings up a pretty good point below.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the best parts of TRP is discussing anything no matter how politically incorrect it may be, and sometimes discussing ideas that you may not agree with.

This is why I come here, not so much for the laughable field reports or PUA bullshit.

[–]_xen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. If there are no consequences for female infidelity, the only possible outcome is complete societal collapse. It's wimps like those who attacked you that will be the reason for ultimate downfall of men.

[–]1Dark-Ulfberht0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are consequences; they're up to you.

You leave. No contact. No support. Nothing. That would be my solution. Others post revenge porn, though I find that somewhat childish.

In any case, if your leaving is not consequence enough for her, then you shouldn't have been in the relationship in the first place.

[–]armenia4ever1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing alpha about beating the shit out some woman for any reason.

If she did cheat, he immediately should have dumped her ass, that simple.

[–]Deaddpooll-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This place harbors some real fucking creeps.Physically overpowering a girl is probably the most beta thing a guy can do.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Letting a girl hit you without physical repercussions because you "don't want to hit a woman" is even more beta. That white knight bullshit is the definition of putting pussy on a pedestal.

[–]Deaddpooll0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Retaliating to that is self defense , which is obviously not what this War Machine was doing.

[–]Endless_Summer-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just responding to your comment, not referencing him in anyway.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Almost 40 down votes doesn't seem like much of a safe harbor. To us he is a troll, just like you, here in an attempt to make us look bad. Go stroke yourself off somewhere else. Neither of you are needed nor wanted here with that shit.

[–]Deaddpooll0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How am I a troll you dumbfuck?Did I say anything anti-TRP? I regularly visit this sub.

There are guys who take 'being alpha' way too far, I was calling them out.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You come off as a troll when you say this sub harbors that bullshit, it's rather obvious it isn't condoned here.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Eh, he's still weak no matter how you slice it. He may be physically 100x more beastly than you or I or anyone on this sub will ever be, but mentally his actions are weak. Needy. He LTR'd a pornstar and raged when he wasn't the only dick in the picture repeatedly - he could have other hotter women than Mack but he got mad oneitis and lacked the discipline to cut her off. 18 year old beta ass kids can get cheated on, realize they need to leave the ho, and move on with their lives.

He may be an "alpha male" in the sense that he is physically dominant, financially successful, etc, prior to this debacle. But the real mark of alpha is how you respond and react to society's bullshit; alphas replace, they don't chase. It's that simple - if you chase a ho, you're BP. If you chase her on and off for two years and getting cheated on hurts you so bad you damn near beat her to death... that is beta shit.

You can tell he loves to think of himself as this "man from another time when man were men and we speared each other over minor disputes". Or this Nietszchean hero. But in reality, whether the tribal leader or the uber-man, it's all about mental game. Nietzsche's uberman was not a caveman-alpha-beast, he was a savvy power player who understood the laws of power and had a ruthless goal of climbing it by any means, so as not to get crushed by the weak banding together in protest. Alphas have emotional control - look at the way Kobe dealt with the almost certainly false rape accusation. He played his fucking ass off on the court like his life was on the line - it was - and he never said anything, ANYTHING, that would be construed as misogynistic or upset or anything. He knew the public perception would be the judge, jury, and executioner so he kept his cool as people talked shit.

[–]_xen4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But never before in history has female promiscuity been so socially accepted, and never before had males been so disposable. Before, a man was able to find a woman who would be fateful and unable to get tempted or replace him at the drop of a hat. Current female behavior taxes men's happiness and desire for stability in an unbearable way.

[–]1Dev_on1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Males have been much more disposable before today. We no longer have a draft, we no longer have forced castration etc.

I'm seeing the same wrongs here as anyone else, but we need ot keep it in perspective here

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it's all about mental game.

Patrice once mentioned watching his girl get fucked just so he could lose all traces of jealousy. More pimp than I would dare go, but gotta admire that level of mental game.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It works quite well, watch her ride another dick that you told her to get on, and the possessiveness and jealousy fades away with each thrust, along with any oneitis you might have. I've shared lots of women after they proved themselves incapable of being faithful, loyal, and honest. It's more fun when you're knocking the bottom out of a hotter bitch where she can see you as she's fucking another guy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't imagine doing that myself. Strikes me as too much of a cuckold fantasy.

I also think desensitization isn't all that desirable of a goal. There's no reason to sacrifice anything to not end up a maniac like war machine. If you are that far gone, you'd probably snap during her encounter itself.

[–]Killigraphy2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's just a kid who learned how to throw a punch correctly, that's all. He's nothing more than an average pseudo alpha male who's read some Nietzche. He was weak both in form and function. He was a bet male who let pussy control his emotions. Shakespear has wrote about this countless times (Othello much?), and yet countless times do these man-children come out of the chipper and proclaim they're "alpha" or "composes" or "get it".

His entire shpeal comes off douche/hipster, the guy couldn't even kill himself properly. Both a failure as a man, and a fighter. Nothing to see here kids, just more beta behavior.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Too many men's lives are being ruined, and no one gives a damn

You may have also heard of Christopher Mackney, alimony and divorce rape ruined him, here's his note:

The love that my daughter and I shared was truly special. She is a such a sweet, kind and gentle spirit. I am so sorry that I will not be there to see her grow into a beautiful woman. It absolutely crushed me to not be in her life over the last three years. I worked very hard as a father to build her confidence and self-esteem. She is smart, funny and considerate, but she didn't know it yet. I pray that she realizes her strengths and her confidence in herself will continue to grow. I love you dearly, [name redacted].

My son [name redacted] was just entering Kindergarten, when I lost access to him. He is gregarious, outgoing and a great athlete. He is smart and fearless. He could have just as much fun by himself as he could with other kids. Even the older boys in our neighbourhood wanted to play with [name redacted]. It absolutely breaks my heart that I will not be able to help him grow into a man. I love you to, [name redacted]. I miss you both so much.

My identity was taken from me, as result of this process. When it began, I was a commercial real estate broker with CB Richard Ellis. I lived by the Golden rule and made a living by bringing parties together and finding the common ground. My reputation as a broker was built on my honesty and integrity. When it ended, I was broke, homeless, unemployed and had no visitation with my own children.

I had no confidence and was paralyzed with fear that I would be going to jail whenever my ex-wife wanted. Nothing I could say or do would stop it. This is what being to death or 'targeted' by a psychopath looks like. This is the outcome. I didn't somehow change into a 'high-conflict' person or lose my ability to steer clear of the law. I've had never been arrested, depressed, homeless or suicidal before this process. The stress and pressure applied to me was deliberate and nothing I could do or say would get me any relief. Nothing I or my attorneys said to my ex-wife's attorney or to the Court made any difference. Truth, facts, evidence or even the best interest of my children had no affect on the outcome.

The family court system is broken, but from my experience, it is not the laws, its the lawyers. They feed off of the conflict. They are not hired to reduce conflict or protect the best interest of children, which is why third parties need to be involved. It should be mandatory for children to have a guardian ad litem, with extensive training in abuse and aggression.

It is absolutely shameful that the Fairfax County Court did nothing to intervene or understand the ongoing conflict. Judge Randy Bellows also used the Children as punishment, by withholding access for failing to fax a receipt. The entire conflict centered around the denial of access to the children, it was inconceivable to me that he would use children like this. This is exactly what my ex-wife was doing and now Judge Bellows was doing it for her.

To all my family, friends and the people that supported me through this process, I am so sorry. I know my reactions and behavior throughout this process did not always make sense. None of this made sense to me either. I had no help and the only suggestion I got from my attorneys was to remain silent.

At first, I did what I was told, remained silent and listened to my attorneys. Then after I had given my ex-wife full custody to try and appease her, I learned about Psychopathy and emailed Dr. Samenow about my concerns and asked him for help. Of course, I was ignored. As the conflict continued, I was forced to defend myself. When that didn't work, I thought I could get the help I needed by speaking out. There is no right or wrong way to defend yourself from abuse. Naively, I thought that abuse was abuse and it would be recognized and something would be done. I thought speaking out would end the abuse or at least get them to back off. It didn't. When no one did anything they were emboldened.

I took my own life because I had come to the conclusion that there was nothing I could do or say to end the abuse. Every time I got up off my knees, I would get knocked back down. They were not going to let me be the father I wanted to be to my children. People may think I am a coward for giving up on my children, but I didn't see how I was going to heal from this. I have no money for an attorney, therapy or medication. I have lost four jobs because of this process. I was going to be at their mercy for the rest of my life and they had shown me none.

Being alienated, legally abused, emotionally abused, isolated and financially ruined are all a recipe for suicide. I wish I were stronger to keep going, but the emotional pain and fear of going to court and jail [because of exorbitant child support] became overwhelming. I became paralyzed with fear. I couldn't flee and I could not fight. I was never going to be allowed to heal or recover. I wish I were better at articulating the psychological and emotional trauma I experienced.

I could fill a book with all the lies and mysterious rulings of the Court. Never have I experienced this kind of pain. I asked for help, but good men did nothing and evil prevailed. All I wanted was a Guardian Ad Litem for my children. Any third party would have been easily been able to confirm or refute all of my allegations, which is why none was ever appointed to protect the children or reduce the conflict.

Abuse is about power and control. Stand up for the abused and speak out. If someone speaks out about abuse, believe them.

Please teach my children empathy and about emotional invalidation and 'gas-lighting' or they may end up like me.

God have mercy on my soul.

Chris Mackney

Edit: Formatting

[–]NietzscheanStoic3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I were in his situation, I'd just say "fuck it" and leave the country. Head right for Russia. They can have all the warrants out for my arrest but it would do them no good there. That would be my revenge. You can take my money, but you aren't taking my dignity.

Suicide would just mean the cunt and the system that allows her to be a welfare queen, would win.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I survived the same thing, barely saw my kids as they grew up. Twelve days with them over seven years, calls on birthdays and holidays screened, presents sent discarded or taken before the kids saw them, residence changes without notification and the courts/police did nothing to help find them. Proof of abuse by her toward me and the kids was thrown out, her baseless allegations of abuse were taken seriously despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

She attempted suicide by overdose, spent a month in the looney bin, racked up $7000 in debt applied to me, and when I sued for custody was told by the judge that "her boyfriend can watch your kids. You are in the military and can die at any time, thus you are unfit as a parent." Her boyfriend started molesting our daughters that month, and continued until they were almost teenagers.

72% of my gross income awarded to her for child support leaving me homeless while on active duty in the military. Constant lies from child support enforcement, run entirely by women. US codes broken by support enforcement with zero repercussions. Theft of monies siezed from my accounts and not applied to support payments as a punitive measure despite paying support leaving me unable to pay bills for months, in an attempt to leave me homeless again.

All of this because she "wanted to be a single mom" and wanted all the money I made to finance her shopping problems due to bipolar disorder. I never hurt her, was never abusive, endured her abuse and protected my kids from her as much as possible, worked my ass off to ensure my kids were fed and had a home while she would waste all the money she could get and never pay the bills. I didn't drink or do drugs, never cheated, yet I was portrayed by the state as abusive, heavy drinking, controlling, and assaulting her regularly, using the police reports where I would be bleeding, have ripped clothing, she would have no marks, yet the police only cared if I had touched her. The man is automatically guilty in any domestic in that city.

I have until next April - June and she is out of my pocket for good. It's been a long time coming, and I'm waiting for the state to try and fuck me over again, making me pay her despite both our kids coming of age.

[–]2RedPillSafe1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Testosterone creates:

  • Impulsivity

  • Logical Reasoning

...in males.

Too bad he didn't have more of the Stoic wisdom that comes from Red Pill.

Impulsivity in males is a fact of testosterone, but it needs to been seen for what it is.

He was never the "complete male", but he was a brute and a man at least.

(better to be a brute than a beta)

[–]mainst0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He has a thing for porno actresses.

Zsanett

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