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Thomas Sowell Dismantles Feminism and Racialism in under 5 Minutes

juchanaut

July 11, 2013
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Title Thomas Sowell Dismantles Feminism and Racialism in under 5 Minutes
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juchanaut

Upvotes 57
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Date July 11, 2013 1:24 AM UTC
(13 years ago)
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Comments

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She never went on the hamst, please don't say she did.

She just got owned

[–]Just_Brad 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sowell is one of my favorite intellectuals, I really admire his ability and drive to follow the evidence instead of blindly following the prevailing PC culture.

[–]soapjackal 21 points22 points23 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thomas Sowell is great.

Feminists get destroyed by statistics. We need more of those on this sidebar. With additional science sidebarred as well.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With additional science sidebarred as well.

I'm working on this as we speak.

[–]roadhand 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Quite a bit of info at /r/MRRef

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 20 points21 points22 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is 1978 before Feminist Barbra Boxer enacted drug laws that made crack cocaine 100x more illegal than powdered cocaine and the three strikes law. These laws devastated African American families via incarceration and set blacks back 40 years.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's so fortunate this guy is black.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Can you imagine if a white guy was saying all this?

[–]Scott555 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Seems like there's plenty, and they're nearly all dismissed as racists and sexists.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shitty ol world.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, don't have to imagine since most of people saying this are white male

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's refreshing to see a black or a woman not only not whining about being underprivileged and taken advantage off, but actually saying how it is.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]AlwaysLateToThreads 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My negro.

[–]C_A_Jones 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole interview. He goes into the idea of institutionalized racism as well.

Off topic but one of my favorite essays by Sowell.

[–]neXianXavia 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd just like to say that a large quantity of statistics are just outright bullshit. There are just too many ways for people to manipulate them when using them.

I could say (for a fabricated example) on average that white men make 2000$ more than black men per year, and my grandmother would go "Society sure is racist" or "Good".

But the fact of the matter is there are so many things that affect such a statistic, like the unemployment rate of blacks, the amount that go uneducated, the amount that work white collar jobs, and stupid people just believe it because numbers.

It frustrates me.

[–]chiffonade- 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the problem is, statistics don't actually explain anything. it's just counting. and that counting can be manipulated to show anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a book about this, I think it's "lying with statistics"

"Fooled by randomness" also explains a lot of related stuff

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

The problem with all egalitarians is the same assumption: they think blacks, whites, asians, men, and women all developed the exact same brains in different conditions and different gene pools.

Every white and asian person has inhereted genes that affect brain function unique to neanderthal blood. No subsaharan African or aboriginal has this gene. Guess how accurately we can predict the IQ of a people group? (P.S. - people with this gene are on average 15+ IQ points higher).

The idea that you'll ever get equal representation of blacks in science and medicine has no scientific backing. You could make the argument that based on IQ disparity, you'd only expect that less than 2% of cardiologists would be black, but then you'd be branded a racist and be banned from most social media.

The problem with modern society is the egalitarian religion has taken place of darwinism, evolution and science. Darwin himself recognized the differences in humans, it's sad that we can't accept it do to a misplaced hate of eugenics spawned by antinazism in the west after WWII. People just don't want to accept the reality of race.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Translation: equality is a nice dream but not realistic.

No. Equality is not a nice dream at all. There is nothing nice about it. It is fucking boring. It takes the salt and pepper out of life. Competition is life. Dominance is life. Serving someone or something you find worthy is life, as in The Last Samurai. Looking up to high ideals and to the people who embody it is life. Tough love to those who deserve it is life.

There is no need to make up ideas about why equality is not possible - the whole point is that it should not be desirable at all.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah.. okay

[–]neXianXavia 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

IQ? Are you fucking kidding me?

Human brains are pretty similar among most races, and all IQ is is a measure of how well a brain can work mechanically AFTER LEARNING PRIMARY SCHOOL CONCEPTS.

So many black people are uneducated and have not learned solid mathematical concepts, and give me a nigga who gives a fuck about math and I'll hand you a fucking medal.

I could train for an IQ test and get 20 points higher than I normally would, and I would be no faster in the brain, or more brilliantly mechanically minded.

To me, your synopsis of raciality is extremist and simply incorrect. Hell, the guy in this video is black. Does this mean his IQ is instantly lesser to a white man in his position?

tl;dr, Race doesn't mean shit. Look at this smart nigga.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So many black people are uneducated and have not learned solid mathematical concepts, and give me a nigga who gives a fuck about math and I'll hand you a fucking medal. I could train for an IQ test and get 20 points higher than I normally would, and I would be no faster in the brain, or more brilliantly mechanically minded.

So your argument is that they as a race are just as smart, they're just lazy?

To me, your synopsis of raciality is extremist and simply incorrect.

It's only extremist because you're programmed to believe so.

Hell, the guy in this video is black. Does this mean his IQ is instantly lesser to a white man in his position?

No, that's a gross misapplication of averages.

[–]neXianXavia 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, I'm saying as a race, they have different cultural values than us. If a black guy wanted to get smart and go get a degree etc etc, he probably could if he tried, just like anyone.

But by and large you'll find as a cultural trend that black people don't give a fuck about college and getting tertiary education. They're raised so that they just don't care about that shit.

Eh, I probably overreacted. Some of the comments I've seen on this board have just been irking me lately.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're vastly overestimating the effect of culture on a person's decisions.

[–]Ragnar09 -4 points-3 points-2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL. Are you fucking serious? Go back to stormfront you idiot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or you can, you know, try to form a single bit of logic.

[–]jakethesnake76 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thomas Sowell's buddy is also great, Professor Walter E. Williams , a great Libertarian who used to teach economics..

[–]wynningston -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ma nigga!

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 34 points35 points36 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There was no hamstring on her part she did not use an emotional argument or an attack on his character. Please dont use hamstering so loosely to attack women because then it detracts from the meaning of the word.

[–]mdhpp 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, to me the best part of this argument is that they both stuck to the issue. you don't see that much anymore.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is she actually debating him or is she "interviewing" him? A lot of times, the interviewer will set up the talk by bringing up points and letting the other guy dissect and discuss it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thomas Sowell is a great intellectual and master debater.

[–]discussiontim 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thomas Sowell is perhaps the world's top living intellectual.

He has all the benefits of a brilliant mind, the objectivity of someone outside the egotistical brainwashing academic bubble, the confidence to explain his thesis even when his conclusions may be politically incorrect, and he's been doing it for decades.

And he came from worse than nothing. He grew up in Harlem and was a high school dropout, and worked his way into and past the finest colleges in the world.

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