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To normies/chads/stacies: What would be the best advice you'd give to heightcels?

changeIsTheWay

October 7, 2017
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Title To normies/chads/stacies: What would be the best advice you'd give to heightcels?
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changeIsTheWay

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Date October 7, 2017 6:35 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Go for short girls.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

They can reject me even quicker than tall girls since the distance from their mouth to my ears is even less!

Short girls don't want short guys just because they're short.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

Short girls don't want short guys just because they're short.

Nobody wants short men. But are less likely to condemn you for being short.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

What? The probably will.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

What? The probably will.

No they will probably condemn you for being a twat, not because you are short.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

No lol

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

No lol

🙄

This is why we don't have incel talk here. You don't wanna do anything but wallow in your own misery. It's not your height that's the problem, it's this behavior.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Do you realize how bad it is for short guys? Even on /r/short where guys are NOT incels.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Do you realize how bad it is for short guys? Even on /r/short where guys are NOT incels.

I know, I've been on dates with guys as short as 5'3", I didn't fuck him... Because he was a twat!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Because he was a twat!

Such as? (his actions)

Are you a short grill?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I know, I've been on dates with guys as short as 5'3", I didn't fuck him

This is usually what I think goes on when a girl says she dated a short guy before.

[–]lexisdawn 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

First you claimed "nobody wants short men", then you say "it's not the height that's the problem, it's the behavior". Can you see the contradiction in you're own comments?

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First you claimed "nobody wants short men", then you say "it's not the height that's the problem, it's the behavior". Can you see the contradiction in you're own comments?

No. I was being antagonistic. Nobody is going out of their way to be with short men, to be fair women, women aren't going out of their way to be with anyone but the top 1% of men. That being said, if a short man picks the right girl, and approaches her well, and has a bit of luck, he could be successful.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've heard that short women, being insecure about their height, are more likely to be "height queens", actually.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard that short women, being insecure about their height, are more likely to be "height queens", actually.

I have not heard such a thing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard that short women, being insecure about their height, are more likely to be "height queens", actually.

[–]DashneDK2King of LBFM-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can reject me

They absolutely can. Nothing is guaranteed. However if your take home from this fact, is that nothing is worthwhile, then you're going to 100% sure nothing in your life will ever be succesful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps. But for many other things, there is at least a decent chance of success.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Not Chad, but I'm a 6'4" incel.

That should be proof enough that height doesn't matter all that much.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How mind numbingly autistic are you to have fucked this up?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Being tall doesn't matter if you're not Chad

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is like saying being good at fixing cars doesn't matter if you're not a mechanic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What you're saying is more like someone calling a guy who knows how to change a car battery or a few other parts a mechanic.

[–]metric_units1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

6'4" ≈ 1.93 metres

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If you're average looking in the face, you should be able to overcome just from the height alone.

You won't have multiple plates at once, but you should be able to find one girl who is half decent looking at the least.

For reference, I'm basically 11.5 inches shorter than you.

I agree that height isn't everything, but there are some who will be into you just for your height.

[–]metric_units0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

11.5 inches ≈ 29.2 cm

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree that height isn't everything, but there are some who will be into you just for your height.

And they'll immediately lose interest when they find out I don't have a lot of ambition, don't care about social lives etc

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have plenty of ambition and social life, but that's great for platonic friends.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just being "ambitious" seems to not matter much.

[–]uto-uto 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

stop blaming everything on your height. it’s not the real problem.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I know. Its my face too. Average looking face.

I should get plastic surgery then. How does that sound?

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know. Its my face too. Average looking face.

I should get plastic surgery then. How does that sound?

Do eeet!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah my actual face shape is naturally masculine. I just have to spice it up and have a better chin, better eyes, and a less bulbous nose. I won't be chad, but I'll be attractive-ish.

[–]uto-uto 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

if you want to waste your time and money, go right ahead.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Its not a "waste." There are often genuinely decent improvements.

I won't be chad straight from that, but I'll go from average to kinda-cute.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it'll get you ONS, but it won't get you love or relationships.

That's all personality based, more or less.

Sure they can bask in your beauty. But that's not loving you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I can turn those into relationships.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What does that mean to you?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That I'll have relationships?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL Height not being a problem? Dude if the guy is really short yes it will be. US women are fucking insane about height. I feel sorry for the manlets out there lol.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Take hormones and become a qt trap.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish.

If I had a feminine face, I could. I still have masculine features. Hence why plastic surgery can improve me since some of my fundamental features are masculine.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just be yourself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't work that way.

You have to remember that most heightcels don't have chad level faces.

If you think about it from a supply and demand perspective, when normal looking average height guys are readily available, why would normal women (I'm not talking about super attractive women) go for normal looking short dudes?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The question is really “why wouldn’t they?” Height is one thing. One thing. If you’ve got everything else going on then it doesn’t matter. Don’t you look around the world and see that with your own eyes?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then I should go to geek/nerd conventions and meet women there. Or at least have specialized friend groups from there since it seems like women from that subculture are different mindset wise than your traditional stereotypical ones I guess.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He doesn't know his self...

[–]Lonny_zone2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Nobody is a heightcel unless they are under 5'0".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

5'0"... 5'4.5"...

Big difference. Still "not tall enough."

[–]metric_units0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5'0" ≈ 1.52 metres
5'5" ≈ 1.64 metres

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[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

You will still be taller than lots of women. Yes, lots of women will deny you but there are plenty of 5'0" women who would accept you otherwise.

Anyway, the advice is the same as for any other guy: get jacked, dress well, and find success in life. The only unconventional advice I can give you is (if you are white) target minorities.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

get jacked

but "muh compensating manlet" :(

[–]Lonny_zone2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Being short, wide, and strong is better than being skinny/fat, weak, AND short.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

True. At least they can't reject me then on the grounds of "you can't protect me!"

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Would you deny a 6'5" girl with a bangin' body? Also being jacked gives the illusion of being taller.

[–]metric_units0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

6'5" ≈ 1.96 metres

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I sure as hell wouldn't. Most men don't care about height in the first place.

Also being jacked gives the illusion of being taller.

Funny how /r/short was talking/complaining about how apparently it does the OPPOSITE.

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They are morons. I've seen it work. Girls say "oh I didn't think you were that short" to one of my friends multiple times.

And guys who have lots of choice care about a girl's height. It's not as imperative as it is to women, but most guys seem to want a girl that's at least slightly shorter than them. I know I do. Not that I would deny a 6'5" knockout, but my "perfect" girl would be considerably shorter.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And guys who have lots of choice care about a girl's height.

Well chads who have lots of options experiment around with many.

Anyways, are you a chad?

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Height does matter. It's not preferable if a woman is taller than me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I personally don't care. How tall are you?

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sean Stephenson is one of the shortest men ever and he has a wife.

If people with even more fucked up bodies than you are finding love then clearly it's just you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He's dating up too.

But I'm talking about generic examples.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

People don't date generically.

Then date subjectively.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure statistics wise, outliers are outliers for a reason.

[–]metric_units0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5'0" ≈ 1.52 metres

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[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen!

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Excel in some kind of hobby that's attractive to girls, i.e. Music. I know tons of short guitarists and drummers with cute small gf and also lots of hookups . It can be done, don't fixate on frat shit cuz you ain't gonna beat chad at his own game

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing they have chad faces though.

I wouldn't have a problem if I had a chad face in the first place.

Heck, if I was just taller, I would have no problem either. My face isn't hideous. Just average looking.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

They're mostly average dudes. Two are bald even lol

They shred on guitar tho

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Good, then.

Someone also suggested that I should go deep into the geek/nerd subculture since its a similar situation there.

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

No girls are into that. Music is the only way to be ugly/short and get hot girls.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Nah, there are def more guys, but there are a decent number of girls too into it.

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Ugly/fat girls

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

No, the distribution is the same I'd reckon as the general population.

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It really isn't. Any attractive "geek girl" wants lead guitarists just like any other girl. Don't be deceived by the Internet. Being a geek guy doesn't get you laid ever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Ok I'll learn to play the guitar then I guess.

[–]cxj75% Redpill Core Ideas-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Idk how many girls are actually into that tho

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More than you think. Obviously more men, but still.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You really want to blame everything on Chad faces so much lol.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I do. Face is personality it seems.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yet nearly everyone is telling you otherwise...

I guess it feels better than accepting that your failures are largely your responsibility.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You're 6ft and have a decent looking face (I've seen your face).

Its different.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Your face is decent too dude. By far not bad looking, and with high grooming and style you could even possibly be hot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You... didn't even see my face...

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You described yourself as 5/10 facially. That's decent. You're not ugly. Face is not the issue.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know. I have to clear acne, get rid of some fat in my face, and get a good haircut.

[–]SimplisticHedgehog1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I excel at playing musical instrument but it is clearly wrong choice of an instrument. No panties get wet for that.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Become a Machiavellian and remove their choice.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah they no longer get to choose whether or not they like you.

By being Machiavellian you ensure that 100% of the time they will not like you.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

That's the most absurd conclusion ever.

When you make people feel good, they can't help but like you, even if they know it's calculated, as long as you offer value to their lives.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Machiavellian

Wut?

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Being a cunning mother fucker that manipulates people and peoples to their own ends.

Like being the puppet master where your victim is attached to your strings.

When someone understands how people work, what they want, it's almost second nature.

Have you ever read The Prince?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I haven't. Maybe being cunning helps.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't hurt, that's for sure. I especially love it for the business world. After all, selling yourself is how you get good jobs, and being cunning helps everyone sell themselves better.

To be frank, the benefits of being cunning with women is just a perk.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know it helps for the business world. That's the only thing I'm talented in, lmfao. Non-fun, non-romantic, business convos.

[–]rulenumber3030 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Like the really really short guys... jockey sized? Technically very tall midgets? Find a tall woman with great sense of humor and a comically extreme height gap from you, and suggest you date a bit as a visual joke.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't mind dating a tall woman.

But IDK if that would work. Tall girls probably care more about height than the shorter ones.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

You care more about your height more than any girl would.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

This is false and has been proven...

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

This is false and has been proven...

How so?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

How a lot of guys get rejected on height?

I'm not the only one to witness this.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

How a lot of guys get rejected on height?

I'm not the only one to witness this.

How can you tell the difference between a guy getting rejected because of his height and getting rejected because he's a twat?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

You're saying all short guys who get rejected get rejected cuz they're twats? LOL.

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

You went extreme there, it makes you distort your view.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

A lot do end up cuz of height.

[–]LittleknownfactsVaguely Uncivil Comment0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're saying all short guys who get rejected get rejected cuz they're twats? LOL.

No. I'm saying it's less likely for a short girl to reject you for anything other than your twatness.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps

[–]Love8DeathPost-RP0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a baseline height requirement. It is not the same for all women.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

[–]SimplisticHedgehog0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have an attractive face, then being height-challenged does not matter or very little. Don't have either? Well, son, hookerz are still an option.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hence why I'll get plastic surgery since I can go from average to kinda-cute even though I won't be chad.

[–]theambivalentrooster0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Short guys can get married. I've literally seen it in person. My friend was 5'4" and his wife was the same height.

It can happen to you, too! Just believe in yourself! And probably partake in intensive cognitive behavioral therapy and make massive changes to your lifestyle and diet. And be funny.

Hey, I never said it was gonna be easy, but when you're starting from the position of a self-professed 'heightcel' you have a lot of work to do. It's not like we're dealing with Brad Pitt circa 1998 with just a bad haircut.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Brad Pitt

Man I wish I had his face.

[–]theambivalentrooster0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a married man and I wish I had his face.

Comparison is the thief of joy, my friend.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yup

[–]DemonConsulting4" Dragon0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Make a lot of money, then buy a sex slave mail order bride

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

5'3" here. Man up. It's that simple.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Chad face I guess?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but I've had my share of trouble with women despite my good looks. Didn't change until I developed more masculine behavior.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, "manning up" won't help. I have an average looking face.

Plastic surgery is the only hope. Everything else is pure cope.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it will help. Women are attracted to masculinity, if you can believe it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll be masculine. I already have the "alpha top dog"TM type attitude in real life when it comes to getting shit done.

[–]metric_units0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

5'3" ≈ 1.60 metres

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