What are the red pill opinions on alimony? Specifically, what are your opinions on the arguments given in this front page thread?

max_peenor · 2015-07-20T21:54:25+00:00

On the other hand, I know a woman who is seriously pissed off because she has to pay her husband alimony. She's in IT and makes good money, he installs appliances for a national retailer. He makes enough to support himself...... the alimony is somewhat vindictive.

Apparently, HE doesn't deserve a lifestyle to which he become accustomed...

Alimony is fine if you were a solid stay at home parent, but it is stupid to expect you can maintain the same lifestyle you had before. If you wanted to keep that lifestyle, you should stay married. Sooooo, this is why at fault divorce is so important. If a devoted wife of 25 years gets dumped because the husband wants a shiny new broad, I see no problem it raping the ever living shit out of his wallet. On the other hand, if a 10 year wife decides she needs another ride on the CC, she doesn't deserve diddly shit. Actions must have consistent consequences for there to be actual justice. Without actual justice, the whole thing falls apart.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-07-20T22:15:50+00:00

The only excuse for alimony is in a fault based divorce system. I would allow it in 2 cases:

The the filing spouse is the party on whom alimony will be assessed and they are divorcing the receiving party without grounds or fault
The filing spouse would be the recipient of the alimony and can prove they are divorcing because of traditional grounds or fault of the party that will be paying

Under no circumstances should a party be able to get alimony for initiating a unilateral, no fault divorce

PrimePussyOverRancid · 2015-07-20T23:20:59+00:00

I'll be fine with alimony, but I want some "pussy payments".

fiat_lux_ · 2015-07-20T21:53:39+00:00

Quick thoughts:

I'm fine with alimony. The "standard of living" argument makes enough sense to me.
A lot of problems come from lack of understanding of the system. Too much mixing of separate (pre-marital) property and community property, and from what I've seen a lot of problems come from this. Maybe laziness, lack of organization, or too much trust from the breadwinning spouse.
I don't think it should be close to 50/50. The non-working spouse needs to be incentivized to get back to work or remarry sooner than later. Plus, the working spouse is not getting anything from the spouse anymore. No more housework or sex.
I prefer American Rule states. Civil Law / Spanish Rule only makes some sense against multimillionaire+ people who've retired and get almost all their income from investments pre-marriage.

I agree with the top comment in that linked thread. I agreed with that even before one of my cousins frivorced without pursuing alimony aggressively enough and is now basically relying on me and my immediately family to carry her financially.

prodigy2throw · 2015-07-20T22:40:06+00:00

Alimony dumb

[deleted] · 2015-07-21T06:33:20+00:00

An entirely outdated concept back from the time when women couldn't rely on finding a job.

Abolish it.

[deleted] · 2015-07-20T23:25:18+00:00

That subreddit has a passive aggressive jab at someone at least once a day.

[deleted] · 2015-07-21T13:57:23+00:00

i don't believe in alimony. it literally defeats the narrative that women don't need men to be successful or stable in today's society. i don't think that because you were married for a time, you deserve his money once divorced.

if you want his/her money, stay married.

[deleted] · 2015-07-20T22:36:38+00:00

I think there should be a cap. I understand the argument of helping a spouse survive for a while if they spent years of their life helping the family instead of focusing on their career. But past a certain point it's just luxury money, you know? Alimony should help pay for a place to stay and a car. It doesn't need to help pay for a mansion and BMWs.

Although I'm sure that the vast majority of cases are reasonable and only the ridiculous settlements get attention.

Title	What are the red pill opinions on alimony? Specifically, what are your opinions on the arguments given in this front page thread?
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Date	July 20, 2015 9:34 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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