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Asian rant - why are women of other races, especially white women, put on a pedestal?

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February 13, 2015
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Title Asian rant - why are women of other races, especially white women, put on a pedestal?
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reddit_user21

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Date February 13, 2015 5:23 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]juanqunt8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

go to r/asianmasculinity.

You make some good points, but IMO not entirely true. People like the exotic and want to diversify their genes. I'd bang a girl of any race as long as she's hot. I don't need a trophy wife... I just need the ability to easily acquire plates.

Girls don't know what they want. What they fantasize about is whatever they saw in the newest popular TV show... they have fluid sexuality, not set in stone archetypes. Frame is the most important thing.

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd go with this. People seem to like something that is different and not abundant in their environments. Of course the formula diverges when said person becomes a part of a new environment and the situation gets reversed - will the asian man who wanted white women previously as it was scarce, end up wanting an asian now that he is surrounded by white women, assuming he is on the level that he can get white women. How deep does the idea go for this person.

[–]doublereignbeau5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As one Asian man to another, I'm going to put it in words we easily understand.

Work Energy = Force * Distance

If you have a HB7 Asian woman as a date, you probably didn't have to go very far due to having so much in common.

If you have a HB7 Caucasian woman as a date, you probably had to bridge quite a few hurdles, prejudices, and cultural differences.

In other words, you'd have to have traveled quite a distance and must therefore be a real piece of work. That's the logic of it anyway. And brings the assumption that a white woman is of higher trophy status than an asian woman of the same quality.

Of course, the whole dynamic has changed since Asian women began to stray from pure hypergamy to wanting it both ways. But that's another story.

[–]SQQQ2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

as asian myself, i don't give a shit to the pedestal.

if the woman has a pleasant personality, i'd treat her with the respect a lady deserves. if shes a bat shit feminist, i'd kick her to the curb.

[–]49ered6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Lets cut the nonsense, dislike towards white women = coping.

Even the white guys who travel to asia and swear by how awesome asian women are, well, they are usually white guys with low SMV in the USA. You do not see the jocky looking Chris Hemsworth and Channing Tatum types take that route because they have no need to do so. On the other hand, the low SMV white guys will be ignored by white women and spent their lives in frustration. They will sleep with some asian women and women in latin america but deep down feel that desire to get with a white girl, even if it is for a one night stand and nothing deeper than that.

Fact is, white women have by far the highest SMV on the planet. White women are the most desired and liked by all kinds of high SMV men if they look good. Black athletes have white women by their arms, Arab princes fall for blondes hard, Latin men love white women, and White men that are high SMV almost exclusively go for them.

As an asian guy, you can get a hot girl of your race but for you to get a hot white girl, your SMV has to be through the roofs. That is the fact and you can deny it all you want.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fact is, white women have by far the highest SMV on the planet.

I'd take Middle Eastern women over white women any day.

[+]lonernot-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ya and some guys would rather take a job as a janitor than a famous actor but learn to realize that your preference is an exception to the rule and once again, you are doing exactly what the OP of the post said you are doing, coping with the fact that white women with good looks want absolutely nothing to do with you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

And you should realise that some of us who are not Asian have no trouble getting white women.

Don't assume I share your failures. The way you talk about them, you'd think they were some mythical creature beyond the reach of mortal man.

[–]I_like_big_titays6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I dunno man, I have had my FILL of white women. I think the draw to foreign girls, at least for me personally, is that they are LESS likely to be obesse and entitled. The genuine ones (not bar girls or gold diggers) take a very high level of game depending on your logistics (are you back packing, traveling, living overseas)

The white american woman I feel has been this main stream media thing that is SOLD to us as the highest SMV thing out there, but lets be honest they are pretty common.

I personally like trading in the Asian markets because not a lot of people are shopping there.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW162 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fact is, white women have by far the highest SMV on the planet.

Firstly, SMV is an individualistic measurement, it has nothing to do with a group. A hamplanet with white skin doesn't have high SMV due to her skin being genetically pale. She is still invisible due to her weight.

Secondly, markets are local. Where I live (Thailand), white women are effectively ignored. I mean 96 out of 100 white women are ignored because they have larger sized bodies, and most white girls who travel through are scummy backpackers with resting bitch faces and deeply sun damaged skin and tattoos. You get the odd hot white chick now and again, and they are a welcome novelty. Any man will lay pipe in that, sure.

Most white women who live for a period of time here report feeling absolutely alone, depressed, and ignored. Almost all of them leave within months or after just one year. If they were of such high SMV due to their white skin they would be the center of attention and would bask in their glory (as white men do). That's not the case. SE Asian men don't pursue white women, they see them as fat, uninteresting, too foreign, etc. The local men go after local women with lighter skin. A Thai man wants a Thai wife with light skin, not a European wife.

This is hard for white men to comprehend because we tend to love exotic women from foreign countries and we imagine that other men in the world must feel the same way about "our" women. This is simply egocentric thinking. Markets are local and are determined by individuals going after what they prefer.

[–]juanqunt1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Great points... but I'd also like to make some clarifications. You're somewhat confusing SMV with market price. White women typically have inflated market price compared to their inherent value. And what you say only applies to the upper-middle class hot white girls; there are plenty of fat white trash losers who nobody wants to touch except other losers. A Kpop star can have higher overall SMV and global fanbase than many American celebrities.

[–]lonernot-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And what you say only applies to the upper-middle class hot white girls

that can be said of any kind of women though.

most asian women are not these submissive geisha types and a lot of the hot latinas have tons of white blood in them.

[–]juanqunt0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Hot girls of any race have tons of beta orbiters in their own countries. Equal hotness = equal SMV. A better way to think of it is that as a man, you lose out at the currency exchange if you're at a place where you aren't of the culturally favored race.

[–]lonernot-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

brother, the only way you will be a favored race in the USA is if you are a tall and handsome white guy, even plain white guys lose out there.

but I would rather improve myself to where I am pulling some fineass american chicks rather than resort to being some creepy old sex tourist that travels to thailand to get laid.

[–]juanqunt-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see any disagreement.

[–]homeskillybiscuit 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There are two main types of Asian women in the western world: the conservative, serious, stereotype Asian and the white-washed Asian. The first, a future tiger mom, wants commitment and security. She wants a successful husband who will father a successful family. Dismissed as being too uptight and often too cold for any fun.

The second type is the one trying to appropriate the culture...in other words, find her place on the carousel. She probably dismisses her heritage, and might even go as far as to say that she hates Asians- too boring, too uptight, too small. She'll say whatever she has to to hamster her way out of it. Needless to say, she isn't looking for an Asian boyfriend.

Thus, the Asian man turns away from the Asian woman. (Cue complaints from said women about how Asian men are racists or something, but that's a different story)

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Just curious, what is the point of sticking to culture and people from your culture if the idea is to improve. If a person finds his or her culture and it's people to be of lesser ability and total human value, is it not logical to find a partner who is above that.

[–]homeskillybiscuit 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm not advocating that people should absolutely stick to their own culture, but there's a difference between recognizing the flaws in one's culture and entirely disowning it. These women aren't looking to improve themselves by distancing themselves from their culture, rather trying to prove themselves different or fun or what have you by following the herd.

[–]thereddespair-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

But such a case can exist where a person can find the entire culture to be flawed - leading to abandoning the old ways as a whole and fully accepting the new. I would imagine that is different from pretending as if the past did not exist or the culture still does. Then I would just take it as a difference in the state of mind of the individual not the outcome.

[–]lonernot-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because the red pill isn't really about improving yourself to a lot of these guys, take the easy way out right? Go to thailand and get some "plates" there who will fall for your American citizenship, don't stay in the US and actually work towards getting the hbbs.

It is why so many threads dealing with getting american women are downvoted, guys on here in general hate to work for a plate, they want the easy way out. Lets not run game on that hot and entitled american chick, instead lets go for that thai girl who will suck any 1st world cock.

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Improvement I believe is not just a personal matter, but the driving force of any species.

You don't need game or even effort taking that latter route. As for the ideas on TRP, I believe it is to be able to get what you want not what is easy for you.

[–]lonernot-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that might be right but most of the users on here do not embody those ideals at all.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White women on a pedestal? Not by me, bro. Not by me. I suspect though that it has more to do with the cultural imperialism of the television, film, and glossy magazine media from the last few decades though. I think that it is changing due to the globalization and decentralization of said media. It used to be that being a model or an actress was the province of the children of wealthy whites, since they were the people that paid for and developed these media in their modern forms, it would be only natural that they would shunt their children into the role of "idol." This involves years of grooming in schools and the privatization of said schools to keep outsiders from developing enough talent to break into a lucrative racket. It's not a perfect strategy, but when you consider all the nepotism in Hollywood, it's effective enough.

[–]aptway1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm white, and white women are on the bottom of my totem pole. I'm much more interested in Asian and Latina women.

[–]1kingofpoplives-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm much more interested in Asian and Latina women.

This, except with African woman (not African-American).

[–]aptway-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This, except with African woman (not African-American).

Right, African women and African-American women may as well be a different race- their demeanor couldn't be any different.

[–]NS_white1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All Africans are a complete no-go for me.

[–]1kingofpoplives0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cultural difference is massive.

Here's a fun tidbit. An African girl I'm seeing can't understand why Americans are obsessed with racism. She's looked for racism in her life, but can't seem to find any. She went to college, got scholarships, graduated, got a good job, and his currently dating a white man.

At no point did any evil white people barge in with their racism to ruin her life. She is honestly mystified about this and has asked African Americans where the missing racism is. Their explanations have all been spotty -- stuff along the lines of "you just have to be from here to get it."

[–]planetross20 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does it mean that white girls are better than black girls?

As someone who used to live in an area with a lot of black women, YES. Sure you have your outliers like Kerry Washington but as a whole, there is a reason black girls are the least desired in the USA. Highest obesity rates of all ethnic groups, highest rates of STDs, awful attitudes, quick to resort to violence, bitter, and bossiest of them all. As if the features weren't enough to turn you away.

I had countless black friends who the second they went anywhere good in life went interracial, there was a reason for that. The guys on TRP praising black women have never had to live in an area with a high black population. You will be missing those western white women the second you start to spend time around black women.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a white guy I prefer latinas and asians to white girls anyway not because of aesthetics, but perceived suitability of a long term mate because of the likelihood of a more conservative upbringing.

Naturally as a tall white guy, I would want a blonde for my partner to bear my children because we will produce the highest status children, but feminism.

[–]lonernot0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As an ethnic guy, I would want a blonde for my partner, but racism.

[–]NS_white-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a white guy, I don't racemix.

[–]1Zanford0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If it's any consolation, lots of white guys put Asian chicks on a pedestal, believing them to be skinner, more feminine, more submissive, less slutty, and yet freakier in bed. There's some truth to this, esp. the skinnier part.

[–]lonernot3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The white guys putting asian chicks on the pedestal are usually either anime nerds, low SMV sex tourists, and in general just nerdier and lesser attractive white guys that cannot seem to get the attention from white girls. Then again, in their defense, white western women feel entitled to the best of the best. You can have a 6 that feels that she is only entitled to male 10s and anything less being failure in her eyes. Entitled western women are the main reason subs like this and the entire manosphere in general exist.

[–]Pornography_saves_li0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a white guy that's never really had a problem attracting women, and I personally find Asian women rather plain on average....but the hot ones are usually WAY hotter than hot white chicks. Same could be said for Indian women (pre-mustache anyway).

That said, pedestalizing women is only good for looking up their skirts.

[–]I_like_big_titays-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yooooooooooo. Any one that puts women on a pedestal are not living successful lives. Fair enough, but dude as a white dude that likes Asians I can assure you I have success with whatever color I chose to date. The point is to HAVE options.
This fucking yellow fever stereotype of a sad lonely dude who can only BUY a girl overseas is a femminist shame tactic.

TLDR: Dont hate assimilate.

[–]lonernot-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

it is not a shame tactic, it is fact.

[–]Pornography_saves_li1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmmmm. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'LA LA LA' instead of accepting that a good portion of white men just do not have time for white women. Given the stance, one would assume you are a butthurt, neglected white chick lashing out at the men you feel you deserve.

[–]I_like_big_titays0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

really? shaming men for dating a non western woman, because his SMV is higher in another country is not a shame tactic?

[–]Entershikari0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As an asian, I've only dated French, a danish (even her pubic hair were blond lol), and a slovenian girl.

Rather than skin color or ethnicity, what I think attractive is personality and life style.

I'm currently on a LTR with a girl not because of her skin color but because she's really healthy, cook for me, feminine and attracted to frugal and simple things.

I'm not into asian because I like cultural diversity, but I'd date a black, indian, oriental girl anytime of the day if my current LTR had to end.

[–]lonernot-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These asian guys don't want just a white girl, they want the blonde bombshell type that is unattainable for even most white men out there. Truth is, it is almost near impossible to get the blonde bombshell types in the western world if you are an asian or indian guy, I mean damn near impossible. Most of these women have a high SMV and they know it, they know they are valued, they know they are at the top of the mountain, and they know they can have it all. Many of these women know they can have their prime Brad Pitt, Zac Efron, or Henry Cavill lookalike by their arms by just requesting it so why should they go for an Asian or Indian guy?

They won't. I live in one of the most diverse areas of the USA, have never seen the blonde bombshell type with an Indian guy in my entire life and have only seen one with an asian on a couple of occasions.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My instincts tell me OP is troll.
Probably the Redpillchapters/theLaterBloomerStory user.

[–]lonernot-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

strange, when I put up a post recently, I got accused of being those same two users. Maybe race and missing out on sex growing up are big issues for a lot of men, ever thought about that?

Guy misses out on sex in his teenage years, he looks for answers and he stumbles on here. Not an uncommon thing.

Asian guy wants white girls, he looks for answers, comes across here, not that uncommon either. Either that or he goes into PUA.

But why bother to discuss any of those real issues? Nah, lets just say they are all by the same user. Lets downvote their posts and call them to be banned rather than discuss anything, because you know, that's the easy way out. Sometimes I wonder if users like you, trplurker, and others are that different from feminists.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

alright bro let's do it. if you get more upvotes here I'll leave you alone forever. (hah no pun intended). you can even use your alt accounts to up your points.

if i get more votes well, i don't give a shit either way.

[–]yummyluckycharms-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The easiest answer is that you want what you cant have.

White women are generally racist. White men will date women of any colour, but white women rarely date men that arent white or black.

[–]reddit_user21[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

False. All races are racist. Don't get me started on how racist minorities are. But with that said, there are exceptions too.

[–]Redpillchapters-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

they love latinos more than they love black men, that is fact. statistics will back up that exact fact.

[–]Redpillchapters0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is still fact, don't know why I am getting hate for it.

[–]LeGrandDiableBlanc-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

How much do you see this in people's native countries? I really have no idea, but this strikes me as a thing more 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants do.

I largely suspect that it is seen as a huge ego validation due to the difficulty, and also it is seen as a sort of watershed moment for being accepted as a member of society despite being an ethnic minority.

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