i wanted to make another post because some people on this sub ask for advice and say stuff implying that the very basic truths the red pill uses to lure you in are bullshit and thats definitely not what i believe or what i think most people here believe. this sub is called ex red pill but ill mention braincels and mgtow to aid in this explanation. basically, its all ego protection combined with misogyny to varying degrees.

braincel logic: "looks matter, therefore we shouldnt even bother because none of us look like a 6'10 superman and women dont want anything less than that (setting the standard to impossible levels is one of many ego protection tricks). also, i really really really hate "whamen"."

mgtow logic: "men have it bad in divorce courts, people get divorced, therefore i hate women and theyre all evil and a bunch of whiny bitches ew. i also hate women with a passion. why does everyone hate mgtow?!? were just about going our own way!!!" and the forums are filled with shit like "why would anyone want to have sex with a whamen because they nag you" LOL. its sad.

red pill logic: "looks, height, confidence, money, be on your purpose, "abundance", dont be needy, therefore every single woman out there is a manipulative hypergamous slut because women are manipulative and hypergamous by nature and AWALT, real relationships/ love doesnt exist because AWALT and "she was never yours it was just your turn", women are sex objects and love is the delusion that one woman differs from another because theyre all the same. WHY DOES EVERYONE CALL US MISOGYNISTS?S?!?!?!? CRAB BUCKET MENTALITY BRO THEY JUST WANT US TO BE BETA SLAVES!!! WE DONT HATE ̶s̶e̶x̶ ̶o̶b̶j̶e̶c̶t̶s̶/̶s̶l̶u̶t̶s̶/̶b̶i̶t̶c̶h̶e̶s̶/̶b̶r̶o̶a̶d̶s̶/̶t̶h̶o̶t̶s̶ WOMEN WE JUST UNDERSTAND THEM!!!"

these ideologies are bullshit and its not because looks dont matter or that you shouldnt "be on your purpose" or that you should chase women who arent into you lol. the same basic advice always holds true: improve yourself, get in the best shape of your life, keep busy (one reason for this is to prevent neediness), and be confident, dont pursue a woman who doesnt want you. your grandma couldve told you all of this except maybe the part about building muscle.

the ego protection concept is kinda besides the point but that really is how these ideologies reel you in. "you had a harsh breakup/ harsh rejection/ divorce/ or just suck with girls. well thats because every single woman is a manipulative hypergamous slut and awalt and you cant trust any of them because if you dont act alpha enough she will dump your ass and go ride chads dick!!! welcome to the club! we mention self improvement therefore everything we say is true!" it feels really good to put any kind of negative label on women and believe you understand women while no one else does especially after getting your ego crushed by rejection or whatever happened. it also feels good to view dating as a marketplace or game of power in effort to protect yourself from getting crushed again instead of taking the risk to try and have an amazing relationship that could actually provide real satisfaction that "plate spinning" clearly never will.

incel/mgtow are more extreme in terms of misogyny but theyre all pretty similar. i used to think red pill was somehow better or good because they talk about self improvement but nah. mgtow are dishonest incels. red pill are dishonest mgtow.

youtube is currently banning red pill content apparently and red pillers cant figure out why. it cant be that they openly call women sex objects. "crab bucket mentality bro, they all just want us to be betas and protect the matrix" - lol.

i could keep going and its far from just being about varying degrees of unhealthy negativity towards women. its also pua/game/alpha bullshit, objectifying everyone not just women, basically viewing dating as a transaction of superficial things, they overthink literally everything and try to calculate their smv as if women even fucking think about that, they also teach about being emotionally unavailable is alpha whereas having feelings is beta (rollo said this). its also very misleading because even if you get girls solely because you acted "alpha", you are robbing yourself from having an actual relationship and most of them dont even know what that means because they never had one before finding red pill.

thoughts?!?