Male disposability must be done away with on all fronts, do not serve th system that wants to enslave you, and this is coming from a combat veteran.

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Wow, I didn't realize that ALL Corporations in the world are now ALL American. Man, that's an eye opener. I guess you have some secret source for that? Fuck the Middle East, I personally would have let it ALL burn when the oil wells were all flaming on fire. But I agree with you, the next time some shit hole countries dictator goes on a genocidal murdering spree, the "Imperialist USA" should just write a VERY nasty letter to the UN telling them to Stop it. That is what we should do and save OUR young military members from having to fight and die protecting third world shit holes from murderous tyrants. Yes, you all should be left to your own devices in good times and bad, you can choke on your "resources" (like Venezuela, N. Korea and Iran for example) and save your own asses when your neighbor decides to "share" your resources with themselves. Then I believe YOU would get the fucking MEMO.

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Right so I guess reading comprehension wasn't taught in your so called "college economic's" edumacation asshole? First I'm not a kid douche bag, second I said wealth ISN'T getting spread, DUH. Try reading it again fucknuts and this time use what little brain power God gave you to understand what the adults are saying....idiot. As for America "stealing" resources, fuck you and every other scumbag dimwit that cries and whines about America....Yes, we are the best fucking country the Earth has ever known. I get it you are jealous and know your shit hole country will NEVER be like America but to say we "stole" anything is fucking comical given the FACT we could have taken over the entire planet if we had wanted to after WWII. (um, we were the only ones with the bomb, again DUH) We didn't. We didn't "steal" resources from the Middle East and other places when we rightfully could have as payment for saving their sorry asses from dictator's and tyrants. We didn't.

So go back to fucking goats (or camels depending on what shit hole country you are from) in your country and "discovering" a clean water hole to drink from. Maybe you will get a Nobel Prize like Obama did for doing nothing.

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You know you're right....I assumed that with your "Imperialist USA" propaganda BS you were the usual third world country Socialist/Communist brain washed drone.

I stand corrected. You like Capitalism, Freedom and Democracy (I assume) but hate the USA...that about sum it up?

So the country that is in the forefront of all three above and allows the rest of the FREE world to stay free from Communist and Islamic aggression is the country you have a beef with?

Really?

If America was Imperialistic, we would have taken over Germany, Japan, Korea, Iraq and many other countries. Heck we could have taken over the entire planet after WWII if we wanted to. We could have taken (in your words Stolen) ALL the oil in the middle east and elsewhere with little to no armed resistance, IF WE WANTED TOO.

Obviously, we don't and didn't.

Think about that the next time you're crying about the "Imperialist USA".

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I actually like America, I hate fanatics and politicians, I don't give a fuck about the middle east, I give a fuck about principles. You couldn't take over Vietnam, the fuck you talking about? 🤣 The first time war will take place on US soil will be the last, you're not prepared for that. Let's say you took Germany over, how long do you think you'd be able to keep it? Japan? Korea? Don't make me laugh.

Your politics resemble the attitude of a white chick getting triggered of things that don't concern you. Bottom line. No one fucking asked you. Geopolitics are not as simple as you walk to the middle east and start shooting and robbing, you first need a reason, so you create one, like selling weapons to Sadam Hussein then atacking him for not being a good pawn, win/win scenario. At least the CIA isn't as dumb as you because in that scenario the reason would be "ugh! They're muzzies!"

Also, democracy has been around for thousands of years, I live in an old greek settlement, you wouldn't know anything about greek democracy tho, was a log time ago, VHS tapes weren't around then. There are countries with a lot more freedom than america, for example Switzerland. Capitalism? You have the most clickbait version of it, you're the biggest consumers and the bigger wasters on this planet.

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Ok, listen here you little shit, you have like 150 years of culture, what the fuck are you blabbering about? I'm from europe, we litteraly have thousands of years of culture, I can tell you where my genes come from and we haven't moved more than 5000km in the last 5000 years. You're just a dumb brain washed american who thinks the USA is the fucking bellybutton of the universe, your ancestors were slaves and criminals of the British empire, fucking scum, leftovers, degenerates. Sugar coat your history as much as you want but that's what you where and in your present form you're not far off. The only things you invented are fucking mac n cheese, cars that can't take a turn and tv dinners, so go read a book, preferably by an european writer, you might learn something, you immigrant descendant mongrol.

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If you have the money and connections and willingness to do so then I hope that you can start up a MGTOW militia , I recommend you gathering your friends and other trusted volunteers and starting up at first a group that is although relatively small but still professional enough to be seen as a legitimate military (like the Irish Volunteers did during their civil war in the early 20th century), it's existence should public knowledge to some extent so potential recruits know it exists, and use a TOR site to post combat training videos, manuals and strategies (kind of like SecurityGuy42 does on youtube) so people across the world can start up their own chapters and organize maneuvers with the intention of eventually doing a coup against every gynocentric authority, I personally envision a private MGTOW oriented quasi military group that's similar in organisation to the Brotherhood of Steel from the Fallout games, with well trained infantry and a fleet of drones and other vehicles.

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That's good, once you have enough operatives make a anonymous recruitment video showing your operatives on field exercise so everyone becomes aware of the group, we can't be too secret obviously because it would make recruitment harder, but being slightly known to the public would increase morale among men all over the world, it would encourage people to ether find your group or start their own chapter.

I like your process of using front groups to identify prospects, I think that enlisted men should be recruited more casually, though officers (including chapter leaders with a similar rank to yourself) should undego a recruitment process similar to what the British Auxiliary Units (Home Guard Special Forces) used during WW2 and is similar to the process used by Indian intelligence to recruit and train the leader of the LTTE (probably the most successful and well organized resistance movement in recent history), to this we would need a property to be used as a training facility, I would the imagine being something like this:

a man is identified, expresses interest and is found to be a suitable candidate and offered to attend training at our academy.
he is later given note showing the coordinates to a meeting place and told that he will be picked up via car or plane there, he is not told the address of the camp and not allowed to bring his phone or computer, and is screened for tracking devices.
he is taken to our military training facility and is not told the real names of the recruitment or training cadre and everyone is wearing a mask or disguise and using an alias , and taught infantry tactics, marksmanship, unarmed combat, leadership skills, how to anonymously trade, communicate and recruit, tradecraft and disguise techniques, etc. basically all the skills of a soldier, secret agent and organized crime leader.
he then dismissed and ether assigned to a local unit or sent back to his state or country and ordered to get the show on the road and set up his own chapter.

What do you think? personally I think this is the best way to keep the cellular system used in Resistance Movements while also giving leaders the formal training done in professional militaries ,having a well planned training program is extremely important especially for leaders because not everybody is going to have a military or intelligence community background or know all the tricks of the trade of organized crime.

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WW1 was about money. WW2 was about technology.

I am huge fan of military memoirs and have several from the Napoleonic Wars up into WW1 and WW2. There was a genuine fear among young men they'd have boring lives on farms or in offices and this was a big chance at adventure. There also hadn't been a serious ground war in Europe since Waterloo so the horrors were more or less erased from the recent cultural memory.

They all regretted it eventually. WW1 was so incredibly stupid. The loss of life is one thing but then you had the revolution in Russia frighten all the other European oligarchs. Then Germany gets fucked with the peace treaty. It could not have gone more wrong.

At least in the post 9/11 conspiracy world of the internet, more people know they are being lied to for someone else's gain.

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Pro arguments in a nutshell:

I got free college

Most first world nations already offer low cost college education.

Tri care

Most first world nations consider this a human right and provide universal healthcare.

VA loans

I'd rather make enough money and pay for my own shit, vs. having the government steal it through taxes to finance wars that don't benefit me, and then giving me the scraps as handouts.

I'm not shitting gratuitously on your service. I come from a family with a history of military service back to WWI.

What I have seen around family and friends ranges from PTSD (very common), survivor guilt, nerve damage, cancer (gulf war), alcoholism, broken families (cheating spouses is the main cause), poverty due to medical bills and SHIT LEVEL VA healthcare.

Also, the last heroes served in WWII. All other wars have been wars of aggression, serving the puppet masters.

Don't fucking serve them. Don't kill, don't die in their wars. REALLY GYOW.

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The U.S. Has Been At War 222 Out of 239 Years.

We run a military industrial complex.

America is a young country in comparison to countries in Europe Asia etc.

Why did we become the global police?

Why were we in Vietnam?

What was the real reason we went to Afghanistan?

We've been fighting wars so long, many young kids die and never get to have their medical school paid for.

Military was one of the few avenues for minorities to escape poverty

What if the economy gets turned to shit so that lower and middle class dont have as many options other than to join military or enlist in our privatized prisons.

Are people joining to fight for liberty and justice for all? Or is it just so they're not homeless and cast away by the elitist?

Anyways buddy I've already took much time to respond to someone who is biased towards our military.

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Not especially. I do the minimum required to get by now i'm older and more settled. Humans are pack hunters and by default the pack will always have a leader. Its not really my style these days now i'm older. I regret not going in the armed forces as a young man, i very nearly did but i got involved with alcohol and went off the rails. It would have straightened me out and given me a head start in my career and probably kept me red pilled.

A lot of us are here because we were hurt by women. Whats important is how you deal with it. I view women with a degree of amusement and almost pity now i have processed my emotions. Many are still in the anger phase. You are obviously very angry and quite emotionally under developed judging by your reactions here. You really have to get control of it. Emotion short circuits your logical reasoning ability.

I wouldn't call myself a trad cuck. I'm more in the "service guarantees citizenship" school of thought and that if you want anything from a woman you should pay her by the hour. I'm pretty blackpilled.

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You are a fucking idiot. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You have never been in a kill chain and have no idea the length the military goes to avoid civilian casualties. You also have no idea the length the military goes to actually save lives, especially foreign ones.

All you do is repeat talking points that are fed to you by your liberal masters. You are no better than your corporate overlords. You just want power. You are pissed because your ideology is dying and you will spout anything to get that power back. You are no different than the crazy conservatives back in the 50's that were losing their power back in the day. The pendulum is shifting back in the other direction and you can't stand it one bit.

So whats next on your agenda? Are you going to spit on military members returning home and call them baby killers?

You ever drive or ride in a car? Well congratulations, you have supported the death of many people and have financially rewarded those that have made those death machines that so many have died in.

You pay taxes? Congratulations, you support the war machine you supposedly hate so much.

You live in America? Congratulations, you took the native's land and perpetuate their extinction. You are reaping the rewards from the killing of so many innocent human beings. Since you are so high and mighty maybe you should think about going to the Navajo Nation and give them all your stuff so you can feel better about yourself.

As long as you live in this country or pay taxes to any country that has supported any war effort in any way you are nothing but a hypocrite.

Walmart has put an untold amount of people out of business, especially the mom and pop stores. Walmart, in turn, has been a big part in the destruction of our country and has helped to increase the wealth gap that has helped lead our young people to the path of socialism/communism. Might be interesting to find out how many people Walmart ruined because of their greed that led to them dying as a result of it. Many people that get financially ruined have been known to off themselves.

You might just want to follow the rabbit hole a little bit and you might learn just how much these corporate overlords have their hands in your corrupt politicians pockets who in turn want our country to be in perpetual military operations.

Maybe you should put on your big boy pants and go run for political office on your platform of "I hate our military and anyone that has served should be put in prison" and see how far you get. Go ahead.... put your money where your mouth is big guy. Lets see just how tough you are.

Get the fuck out of here with your virtue signalling bullshit you fucking hypocrite.

I'm here to talk about MGTOW. You are here to stir up shit and to destroy it.

You want to be anti military and talk about it? Fine, go and make your own forum for that.

You have said nothing that pertains to MGTOW. I am here to read and share about the experiences from my fellow MGTOW. You are here to just shit all over everything and attack people.

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And still you end up killing tens of thousands of civilians every year in a country that doesn't even share a border with yours and presents absolutely no tangible threat to anyone in your country, how does that shit works buddy?

I have no masters, I'm a business owner and an agorist, it's you are the one who's a tradcuck government agent who's literally protecting and providing it with blood money buddy, which is way, way different than paying the tiny amount of taxes I pay to cover my ass against your fellow government agents thanks to my tax shelter and off the grid lifestyle, also I'm not an American so whatever that babble even meant is invalid.

People who work at Walmart are the just people who don't like working hard or getting their hands dirty, I don't respect slackers and as a result don't give two shits about their problems, and sure, western governments are corrupted beyond redemption along the megacorps that are protected by them through legislation, these are the people whose interests you're protecting with your life by serving in the military, you are their property, which is the exact reason I will never run for office - I do not work alongside the enemy who seeks to enslave me, not even gonna go again about having a thirty year plan and how your second amendment was destroyed by a goddamn republican administration.

If someone else's owns your very life you're not going your own way, you're just means to an end for the interests of others, that's all you are buddy, you can try to mentally stretch your way around it but that's the truth and it forever will be, if you're serving the system that seeks to destroy other men and will be more than happy to destroy you given the chance you are no ally of mine of any other MGTOW.

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Your boss usually isn't stealing other people's money under threat of violence to run his business and usually doesn't kill/kidnap people for profit, and if he does you probably shouldn't work for him, also he usually doesn't dictates 100% of your daily schedule including sending you to kill and die for him, it's blood money which maybe is good for an animal without any code of ethics like yourself but not for me.

Yes, if you're working for the government you justify any and all actions it does, including but not limited the things people here are complaining about such as VAWA and divorce rape, you are the one greasing the systems cogs by conquering and maintaining control of resources that do not belong to you in the name of your ruler.

As for the laws - when did anyone get to vote on any law exactly? You're a fool if you think the government needs your approval for doing anything, that's why red flag laws got legislated in an allegedly republican administration, it's all about money and control, you would see that if you weren't a naive fool who believes everything party leaders spout before the elections but never actually do when they get to office.

Also I'm not American, but it's a global trend, governments everywhere seek more control over people's lives and money, you wanna let them do it and support it? Your call, good luck when that big igloo hits though, you're gonna need it.

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