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[–]Encrypted58793 points94 points95 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Can't argue with that.
[–]Nestroit49 points50 points51 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
yep, it's simply true and deep down even a feminazi would agree.
[–]MGTOWManofMystery26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They'll still get lividly angry if you dare utter this truth though. Anyhoo, fuck 'em.
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Nah, don't fuck 'em. We have higher standards.
[–]xXx420VTECxXx4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We just have standards.
[–]Splendid_Wiz9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They wouldn't be feminazi if they agreed on something logical.
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[–]oceanofice83 points84 points85 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I think a woman's value resides in her character. How she treats others. Loyalty being a trait which is valuable, but I've never met a loyal woman besides my grandmother. Even my own mother divorced my father, and she's part of that 80% percent of divorces are filed by women statistic. Theoretically, I'd date an average looking girl considering that I am average as well, and I wouldn't care whatsoever if she was sterile, that's actually preferable because I don't want children. What matters to me is if she is loyal and considerate, but it ain't worth the risk of believing that that could be a possibility.
[–]Darth_Toenail28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not sure why you're being downvoted. People must have just read the first sentence and assumed you were a concern troll.
[–]oceanofice22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure maybe they thought I was white knighting by implying that I don't consider women valuable based on their fertility. That's merely my perspective because I don't have a desire to be a father. I don't claim the wall isn't undefeated either, btw. But back to the fertility thing, there's a double standard there because if a man is sterilized does that diminish his value as a person? If a woman was loyal and average looks, keyword if then I wouldn't care about if she was sterile, and I'm saying that theoretically. Why would any of those things like physical beauty or fertility even matter anyway when she's going to take half your stuff then monkey branch? If a woman is physically attractive but she's an opportunistic slag she's still not valuable, that perceived value is denigrated by her actions.
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[–]BroscienceGuy3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women who have lived a hard life are more likely to have character
[–]oceanofice1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah of course. I'm not disagreeing with you but I still think their value resides in their character. Like I said, I haven't met a loyal woman other than my grandmother and she's dead.
[–]oceanofice5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the reply. I agree it objectifies them now that you mention it. It objectifies men as providers (wallets) and protectors (women and children first; men are expendable). It objectifies women as baby factories. If I'm being analytical about it and the conclusion of the op is a consequence of its premise, then I'd like to add: wouldn't a man's value decrease with age as well as a woman's value? Think about it this way. A man in his 60s is less capable of protecting anyone including himself compared to a guy in his physical prime. Generally speaking, of course. There are exceptions I'm willing to bet, but that is not generally applicable. Men lose their virility with age, we start to lose testosterone and capacity to gain muscle hence we will not be as strong as a protector as we are now, and according to the context of the op we lose value there. The only things we could possibly gain of said value is money to provide and wisdom to give guidance.
Also to reiterate, I do agree with the OP insofar that women do lose their reproductive value as they age and they lose their SMV, too. They start to close in on that wall at around 30. The saying goes "Men age like whisky, women age like milk." That's a biological fact. However, none of that is of importance to what I value in reality because I am not merchant in the market for a woman.
[–]simplisticallysimple25 points26 points27 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wait a second.
It's not necessarily true that our ability to provide and protect will increase over time.
This sounds like self-placating nonsense that young unremarkable guys tell themselves.
Why would you magically be richer just because you turn 35?
Only if you work really hard and smart in the mean time, and even then there's no guarantee.
Let's stop this mad complacency.
[–]work-edmdg8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
He didn’t say it was true, he said the value is linked to men. In this context, a man’s value can go up or down over time, however, in the case of women, their value can only decrease.
[–]simplisticallysimple9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, it can go up OR DOWN.
So let's not be complacent at all.
Keep grinding. Never waste our potential.
[–]work-edmdg3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, understood. And agree fully. Keep working hard, stay healthy and prize on.
[–]alexanderthegroovy17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is that Patrice tweeting from the grave?
[–]eduardkoopman3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wish.It's so sad that disceases took away men like Patrice and Muhammed Ali. Stupid disceases, always pick the wrong ones.
[–]xXx420VTECxXx3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ali did kind of get punched retarded. I'd say the majority was CTE not parkinsons.
[–]iAmMaskemane16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i'm gonna follow that gentlemen
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Right... why can’t both have characteristics that are valuable? I thought that’s what mattered. Not things like appearance and money or whatever.
[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Name one other thing, unless she can cook
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
About anything that a man can do.
[–]theamazingsime14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree. I think that both the man and woman are the prize and they should treat each other as such!
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[–]oceanofice2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right on. Therefore give guidance to number one. Provide for ourselves and protect the ones close to us, but more importantly protect ourselves from thieves and emotional vampires. Also, this is secondary, but it's always beneficial to try and redpill young men if we can get through to them so that they aren't socially engineered into blue pilled simps. Albeit unfortunately it usually takes firsthand experience to open their eyes.
[–]Darth_Toenail10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A man's peace of mind lies in his ability to NGAF.
A woman's peace of mind lies in her ability to shatter the above.
[–]monkensteinxstupido2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG THIS!!
[–]Jonlife6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Black Phillip!
[–]TheBunBun543211 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
R.I.P P. Never forget him
[–]Jonlife3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]sam123cherif7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We pride ourselves in the fact that we can be smarter than this, don't get me wrong I took the redpill because I'm fucking sick of the blue pill shit that is given to us in our every day life, and I get the sentiment and all but I don't want to be valued like some kinda utility, it's like saying that when I'm 15 or 21 years old I'm useless and I don't like that, I don't think anyone want that men or women, I just want to be myself unapologetically even it means being looked as immature or other shit like that.
Fellas we took the red pill because we want to be smarter, in this misandrist society, let's not reduce ourselves to the level of these female that says things like "A men is useless until he is in his thirties, then he has value" we are better than this, I know we are.
[–]tablett3793 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Still sounds like dating advice. Who am I providing for? Who am I protecting? I'm shit at giving myself advice, but I'm not guiding nobody else either.
[–]huxley3092 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men age like wine women age like milk.
[–]WakeAndVape3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Today I learned women cannot protect, provide, or give guidance.
Lol what is this nonsense
[–]oceanofice1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In defense of that a lot of boys are raised by single mothers. They have to grow up fast, to become men without fathers and essentially protect themselves and their families even though they are boys. At least the mother in those circumstances provides the bare necessities and gives the guidance that she can. Not looking to place the blame on anyone and essentially it's her fault for being knocked up, but it's not her fault if the father busted in her and then disappeared, so hopefully you can see that side of it. I know obviously some mothers are good-for-nothing junkies or whores but some mothers do at least try their best to raise a boy into a man. I won't argue that they can protect as sufficiently as a man unless they have a gun or they're trained in martial arts, but they can provide. Ik a lot of them will provide with child support or w/e but some of them do it on their own.
[–]avdarth69[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just because she is someone's mother doesn't mean she isn't someone's whore. Why do you think those boys are fatherless? It's because of these whores. They. open up their legs and give a free ride of pussytown to every guy she meets on the street. It's because of women that the traditional family values are lost.
Well, why on Earth would a guy stick around with a whore? She'll just use him for money and keep fucking around. it's better to stay away from these sluts.
Who do you think pays them for raising the kids? Who pays the alimony, who pays the child support? It's the men. Women just fuck around, get pregnant and then blame men for everything bad that has ever happened to her.
Every single mother isn't raising a baby. She is raising a simp. Those kids are going to absolutely worthless when they grow up. It's the fathers who teach them what's right, it's the fathers who instill values in them, it's the fathers who prepare their kids to face the world. Kids growing up with fathers are much more intellectual than kids who grew up with single whores.
[–]oceanofice0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I agree for the most part but not every man pays child support, that's my point. Men are not exempt from the responsibility if they fuck around and get a woman pregnant. You are dissing some of the community here. Some MGTOW were raised by single mothers and they didn't turn out to be simps. You are also claiming every man with a deadbeat father is a simp and that's not generally applicable. There are men without fathers who grew up to be great men. I would never deny that boys need a father figure to learn to be a man but a lot of boys in the world have to learn to be a man on their own without their father. So maybe it's a mentor or a wise man that teaches them, but it doesn't have to literally be a father. What about a boy whose father dies before he himself became a man? You believe they are a worthless?
Also, what if a boy is raised in a nuclear family but dad is beta bux? He can become a simp or he can become a great man. There are more possibilities and outcomes because it isn't an either/or situation.
[–]djinn221989-5 points-4 points-3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The non sense is you and your head deep up in a woman's vag.
[–]DarthCallidous1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like that guy.
[–]Scorpiontail0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A man's value to WHOM???
How about the fact that a man's life is of intrinsic value, regardless?
His life is of value to him, and to hell with all other people's demands.
If he chooses to share his life with them, to provide for them, to protect them, and to give them guidance, that is HIS choice.
Yes, men ARE the prize, and each man owns his own value and his choice of his life's path.
[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BASED BRUTHA
[–]mycatisaduck-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
its posts like these that destroy our credibility. lets strive to be better.
[–]avdarth69[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Society, feminists, white knights, soyboys, simps and the whole queer community out there is hell bent on destroying men. They generalise us as rapists and dogs, they celebrate toilet day on international men's day, they don't respect the contributions we made to this society, they steal our money and give it to women. The whole world hates us.
But still in the middle of all that hatred, its posts like these which tells us that we are still worthy of respect, no matter what people say about us.
[–]_the_lemon-4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So you guys are straight up saying you only value women on their appearances ok sick
[–]avdarth69[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What else do they have to offer.
[–]_the_lemon-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you honestly believe that 50% of the population are of no value except for sex? I reckon women can do pretty much everything a man can do. What about female scientists, artists or just women that are fun to be around. They offer the same values as any human does.
[–]avdarth69[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Anything we chose to do is based on the risk we take and the reward we get. So the rewards of associating with women before 1970 was worth the risk. But with all the feminazi and "respect wahmen" bullshit, the risk isn't worth the reward. Maybe some woman is out there who is fun to hang out with, but you have no idea when she'll change her mind and falsely accuse you of rape.
Or maybe there is a woman is worth marrying but you never know when she's gonna cheat on you with another man. She'll get the divorce and will continue fucking the other guy, while you'll be wage slaving to pay alimony and child support.
So the reprucssions of associating with women are immense. And if you still wish to be associated with them, it's your call. Society has bluepilled and brainwashed men like you into believing that women are wonderful and amazing which is definitely not true. They use for for money and then throw you away like trash. Maybe someday you'll see through the lies society has told you about women. Maybe that day you'll hate them as much I do.
[–]_the_lemon-3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It sounds to me that you don't think women are worthless, you're just scared of them. You use extremely broad generalisations that don't apply to any women I have come across. I have only ever seen news articles about false accusations of rape, and cheating in my experience is equally common among both genders. In my eyes the chances of a woman falsely accusing a man of rape are as likely as the chances of a man raping a woman, or probably less. Again, these are broad generalisations.
Society has bluepilled and brainwashed men like you into believing that women are wonderful and amazing
this is stupid. I think women are as amazing as anyone else. Most of the ones I have met have been pretty nice, but I think of them as nice people, not nice women. You need to stop thinking of these women as so vastly separate from yourself, and think of them as equals.
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