Summary: Found a great article questioning why the fitness community applauds masculine women so much. Link: http://www.radixjournal.com/journal/2014/7/29/beauties-in-beast-mode


I will post some main points from the article, and forgive the noob for making it a long read, but I absolutely believe that this belongs here:

Feminists will claim and celebrate the successes of these manly women, but it is often men--masculine and hierarchically-oriented men--who are coaching and pushing these women to become more masculine.


Why are so many guys who are disgusted by effeminate men so supportive of masculine women?

Brings up results of blue pill upbringing:

Men are judging women as if women were men. Guys have been taught from an early age, thanks to the scolding of feminist educators, that there are no “male” virtues, only human virtues.

And then about importance of male bonding and male spaces (and how we are losing them now):

Men and women used to understand that they were different, and that they would spend time apart doing different things. Men learned to love their women as women, and enjoyed them for who they were on their own terms, but they didn’t need or expect to have the same kinds of relationships with their wives that they had with their best pals.


Feminists have preached for decades that men and women were supposed to be “equal partners” in everything, and that seeped in and contributed to the idea that husbands and wives were supposed to want to do everything together. Most men used to work with other men all day long, and work time has been “guy time” since men were hunting aurochs. Male friendships were forged and maintained in the process of aggressing against animals or nature or other men. As Lionel Tiger theorized in the 60s, that’s how men “bonded.” Today, most men get few if any opportunities to do “guy things” at work. Most corporate jobs are actually pretty emasculating. Most men also work with women, so work time usually isn’t “guy time.”

And back to the subject:

If it’s not OK for men to act like bitches, why is it applause-worthy when bitches act like men? Applauding masculinity in women is just the flip side of the feminist project to encourage effeminacy in men. The net effect is the same: the progressive negation of sex roles.


If women want to stay in shape, let them Zumba. Leave them to their group exercise classes and yoga and things they actually feel drawn to and enjoy doing. Let women be women. Stop trying to redefine femininity by putting lipstick on masculinity.

More on male spaces, closer to conclusion:

I think it’s great when men “police gender” and call each other pussies and push each other to be stronger, braver, and more competent.

And I am absolutely certain that the regular presence of women in male spaces short-circuits this process. The introduction of females into a group of men will always change the culture of the group, weaken male friendships, chill male speech (because men talk differently to each other than they do to women), and turn men against each other.

Encouraging a woman to do something men do and inviting her into one of the few surviving male spaces is a feminist act that is ultimately, if not immediately, harmful to men and masculinity. Men should call out men who do it, instead of congratulating them for being so “open minded” or being afraid to be called “sexists.”

And sound advice, imo the most important point here:

If you want to do something brave, try discriminating.

Try saying “no.”

Instead of jumping at the opportunity to help some tough girl live her best life and be a strong, independent woman who will brag about being manlier than men, try giving her the cold shoulder.

Then grab a brother and help him rise up.

Because men are failing.

Masculinity is failing.

If you’re angry about it, do something about it and stop playing both sides.


Conclusion: those final points basically sum up what I've been feeling for some time now. Women already have female-only spaces while men are shamed for doing the same, only they had male spaces and activities for generations and are now being deprived of traditions of their fathers and grandfathers. Taking action, saying no, helping a brother out is helping us men all rise up.