Hey guys,
I need some serious advice as i'm pretty much being cornered by basically everyone and i really don't know what else to do as my mental state is declining and i'm left wondering if it's really all my fault?
A little background:
Me and my ex-fiancée had been together for almost 6 years and engaged for 4 out of those 6 years. I was introduced to her by a close friend at a party and we just clicked. She was attractive, had a great personality and had similar hobbies as me which made it perfect.
Back in April of this year i started noticing little changes in her, she started wearing more revealing clothes to work, started putting more make-up and etc. Tbh i had no problem with any of that stuff as it's her body, she can wear whatever and put how ever much make-up she wanted to but what made things worse for me was when she started coming home late from work or how instead of spending the weekend off with me (we both had weekends off from work) she instead was always going out. I once had asked her why she never invited me to come out with her to which she replied that it's only girls night out and that her other friends would not be happy if i tagged along as they were not bringing their own bf with them.
It all came crashing down when me and her had a huge fight in June because she decided that instead of going out on a date with me she told me how she already had made plans with her friends and that it was rude of her to cancel. That was it for me, i fucking blew up at her and we had huge fight which resulted in her packing her bags and leaving. I didn't hear from her for almost a week, none of her friends knew where she was and heck none of her folks even knew what was going on until she finally contacted me and wanted to talk.
Imagine my surprise when she confessed to me that there was another guy involved and how all this time she was hanging out with him when all this time she was lying to me about hanging with her friends. I fucking blew up, i wanted nothing to do with her and was going to break up with her until she got on her knees and begged me to give her a second chance which my dumbass self did but only after she revealed everything to me and she did. It made me fucking sick to my stomach but in the end i forgave her and told her to delete all contact with the other guy and that i expect her to have no contact with him going forward which she promised and things kinda went back to before.
Heck, we were even spending more time together but that feeling, that trust wasn't there anymore.
Everything was kinda OK until 2 weeks ago a friend of mine who was visiting another city which was 3 hours from where i lived sent me a picture with the message "Sorry bro" that broke my already broken heart into a billion of little pieces. The picture was of my ex-fiancée at a mall 3 hours away from where we lived holding hands with some stranger who i didn't know. I fucking broke down, i was heartbroken. She was a bitch, a piece of shit especially since i thought she was at work while in reality she was 3 hours away holding hands with her lover.
When i got home from work i waited for her and right away confronted her which she denied and called me a psycho for not believing her and that i was a piece of shit for not trusting her until i showed her the picture that my friend sent me. Her face told me everything and when the waterworks started i knew that i had made a huge mistake in taking her back so i ended it.
She cried and fucking begged me to think it over and not to throw away everythink that we have together which made me fucking angry and i'm not going to lie but i fucking slapped her. I was not proud, i'm still not but she saying shit like not to throw away everthing when it was her who threwaway everything pissed me off.
I told her to pack her shit and leave, called her parents and mine and told them everything, her parents came to help her and i told them to basically fuck off after they told me to think it over and to make the right decision before actually ending it. She begged me not to end things but i did, had to for my own piece of mind.
I did not hear from her or her parents until 3 days ago when my parents called me to let know that ex-fiancée had comitted suicide. Her parents found her hanging and she had left a letter apologising to everyone including my parents and me and how she is sorry from the bottom of her heart for what she did to me and that how she can't live without me and because of that she ended it.
I am at a fucking lose, ex-fiancée friends and family are blaming me and my own mother told me that it was my fault, she told me that i should have forgiven her since i'm clearly worth comitting suicide over.
I am fucking disgusted, i have currently taken some time off from work and have not a single clue what to do.
[–]Bobolink91150 points51 points52 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Although it's sad that she killed herself, it was not his fault. She played him twice. There is no way he should have to forgive her for her fucking him over and betraying his trust 2 times.
[–]Bonesteel5021 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Legit, the guy was a fool to take her back once, taking her back twice would be an insane move.
[–]Pyro1119210 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The saying goes "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"
He may have been an idiot to take her back once but he learned his lesson and didn't take her back the second time. Now the REAL test will be if he's enough of a cuck to get another woman who'll do the same thing.
[–]isverydiffic38 points39 points40 points (5 children) | Copy Link
The idea that somebody would weaponize suicide like this terrifies me.
[–]ElTaimino15 points16 points17 points (4 children) | Copy Link
13 Reasons Why made it cool I guess
[–]isverydiffic7 points8 points9 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Feels like "media causes school shootings" logic
[–]Jaktenba0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on what kind of media you're talking about. Trusted media (like news stations) will affect people's thoughts and therefore possibly their actions. Entertainment media, on the other hand has very little effect because people know it's a fabrication.
[–]ElTaimino-2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t get it
[–]isverydiffic-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
I think blaming a Netflix show for something like this even in part is similar logic to pointing at violent video games or other media and saying the same.
[–]Starcruiser2836 points37 points38 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She was looking too monkey branch more than likely and after she was tossed aside she went to her AP and the other guy wasn't committing either, she ended up with nothing. So she got depressed and did the deed. This tells me she was unstable to begin with if she saw suicide as the only way out of this mess she created. I am sure her parents (mother) was berating her for getting caught which drove her to it most likely.
[–]SlainFunicle29 points30 points31 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why relationship with these train wreck is not worth it
[–]KneeDeepThought23 points24 points25 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Strong independent woman makes her own choice to end her life. Suddenly her choices are everyone else's responsibility. No one get to blame Anita or Zoe for that guy that just killed himself based on a couple lies on social media, so these people can all just fuck right off- she is the one who made all the decisions about everything: fucking up her relationship, then doing it again, then choosing not to move on or get better, and then choosing to end it. And now all of those events that happened inside her head are the fault and responsibility of someone else? Get absolutely fucked raw with a cactus.
[–]Chakra_Devourer1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
In this particular case, this woman is 100% at fault. She cheated on him (not just once but twice). I said twice but she could be fucking another guy multiple times so who knows how many.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I have been a widower for 20 years, this month actually, for this exact same reason.
[–]KneeDeepThought7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not sure whether an upvote is "rooting for your pain" but that sounds pretty shitty and complicated.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not... but I take your meaning.
It is/was very shitty and complicated.
[–]AvailableGuava2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Did she cheat?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course
[–]tw-1234a14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. That sub is a shit show. I read it daily to remind myself why I don't want a relationship.
I feel bad for this guy. This will haunt him for a long time. And some will blame him forever.
[–]Dinomiteblast2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A bit dark and macabre, but look at it on the bright side, he cant get caught in her trap again.
[–]Gobc10 points11 points12 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Honest truth here:
It is 100% her fault. She was a narcisistic, selfish bitch. The fact that she cheated a 2ed time is proof of this. Furthermore, she didn't kill herself because she was sorry. She killed herself because she was sorry she got caught. Had she not killed herself, she would have been seen, and rightfully so, as the bad person. She killed herself as a final act in playing the victim and saving face. That is how selfish and narcisistic she was.
[–]asspop12 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People that do these things are not right in the head. Her fault. I would tell everyone saying otherwise to go fuck themselves and leave me alone!
[–]indiankeanureeves9 points10 points11 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Now imagine if that guy had gone monk mode and not got into this relationship. Wouldve saved him thousands of dollars, a world of hurt, and maybe even that girls life.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
MMFL
[–]asspop17 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
lucky she didn't kill him
[–]GoodMan_Gone7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It is a crosspost so I can't advice OP directly. But keep in mind: it was her choice to take her life. Not yours. And I think you did the right thing not letting yourself be blackmailed. My advice for everyone (my parents told me that. I haven't have to face blackmail in my life): never let yourself be blackmailed. Even if they're trying to blackmail you with a true fact. Rather face the music of making the fact public than to give in. Because blackmail will never stop and only gets worse. Should OP have given in, that'd be a cue for her to threaten with suicide with all whims she's having.
And hard as it is to swallow: if people let you down because of her choice, they don't deserve your presence. That includes your own mother. I think she's talking out of her ass saying you're worth to commit suicide over. Because fact is: you're not. Neither am I. She either had a mental breakdown in which case crisis psychiatric treatment was needed or it was a failed attempt for attention and she accidentally succeed in committing suicide.
Your hands are clean OP. (OK, the slapping is debatable) Yes this is extremely rough for you. I can't imagine. But don't beat yourself up for other people's choices.
[–]NeverNeverLandIsNow4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What she did was selfish in the extreme, he should not be blamed at all and he is in no way responsible for her death, she got a second chance which frankly he should not have given her and she chose to fuck up that second chance as well. His conscious should be clear, she fucked up and couldn't own it and took the cowards way out.
[–]RunawayGrain2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's still a shock and a blow so he's going to need some time to re-adjust psychologically. But think of this, she didn't feel bad enough about cheating to stop or kill herself. She only wanted to kill herself once she got caught and outed.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy fucking shit. Seriously that’s all I can muster. Talk about gyno fucking centric.
[–]tower-rounder 5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Did she kill herself because her parents found out too? Can't handle the shame after that.
Unpopular opinion, but good riddance.
[–]asspop11 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea fuckit! crazy ass women!
[–]Footnote2200 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably killed herself before even worse secrets were revealed. We will never know
[–]runangolee2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Probably a fake story to help take the heat off Zoe. Account was created the same day Alec Holowka died.
[–]EqZero1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean, throwaways are created all the time for one post farming karma in subs like relationship advice or relationships etc.
I don't think it's to take the heat off, but rather someone inspired by this story to write a gold-winning creative writing. This happens all the time there. You see some original post, and then in half a day - another similar one with a spin.
[–]runangolee0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That could be. I was just throwing the idea out there really.
[–]Double_Cake2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The trash took itself out.
[–]asspop10 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly! LOL.
[–]Grant14121 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Ok, this is pretty damn confusing. She apparently valued their relationship enough to not want to live without it. But she cheated on him.
I have to admit, I don't get it. I very much understand the cheating, I know the nature of women well enough to understand that. But why she felt so strongly for her beta bucks?
I can imagine a woman suiciding over a Chad, but what happened here? Does anyone understand her behavior? Because I'm not able to reconcile this scenario myself.
[–]TrumpTrainer3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably that everyone found out and she couldn't play the victim
[–]reinaldo8660 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Cheats on him first time, he forgives
Cheats on him second time, he forgives but ends relationship
Kills herself and blames him.
Everyone saying it was his fault, I mean, at this point why the family doesn't just tell him "Yeah buddy it's okay to lick strangers cum from your girlfriend pussy from time to time, learn how to forgive", back in the days she'd be shamed to death and people would be happy the cheating whore killed herself, in our political correct modern world we lament the death of an unfaithful evil person and we get upset to a guy who forgave her after he discovered her cheating behind his back.
Cheaters and people who commit suicide will root in hell. People need some Jesus
[–]Fanz_Alt0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
her body her choice lmao
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Dunno guys. I'm pretty sure he has a penis, so that's guilt right there. No way around it.
[–]Chakra_Devourer0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok assuming this is not a fictional story, this is not your fault. She decided to cheat on you. You even gave her a 2nd chance and she blew that up. She's very selfish. Even in death, it was about her. She made the decision to kill herself. She's an adult. You told her it was over. You didn't string her on in any way.
[–]Khaose81[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So... they were both at the end of there rope concerning eachother?