Unpopular opinion

Furi0usxStylez · 2019-08-01T10:19:14+00:00

Cmon guys let's not fight. We're turning into those people who eat their own. MGTOW is just that! Going our own way. Deciding for ourselves. Refusing to continue the cycle of men being used and tossed by women who themselves don't even know what they want. We are men. We have sexual urges just like women. It's pretty difficult to deny them and only resort to porn. Now until they create a lifelike robotic woman. We should be able to smash as many women as we want. The key is not tie yourself down to one specific woman and don't have children unless you get a surrogate or adopt. I can't in good conscience agree with celibacy because not all men are capable of doing so. And that is okay. We are still human beings.

avtarius · 2019-08-01T10:14:32+00:00

Which part of Men Going Their Own Way implies no sex ?

If a man's own way is fucking octopi, that's still his way.

2stepp · 2019-08-01T09:48:52+00:00

First I want to say that I like the message behind your post, but I think you should choose your words more carefully.

MGTOW =/= celibacy. It CAN. But it's not a requisite.

I don't condone pumping and dumping unless the girl already knows that that's what's happening. I don't get off on hurting other people, it does nothing to fix the pain in my past.

That being said, it is often difficult to broach this subject with a girl, especially in the heat of the moment. Talking in general doesn't really seem to accomplish much other than turning her off in my experience... That's why I advocate for prostitution, neither one of you should be confused about what you're there for.

I would also caution you against thinking that we are going to somehow revert to traditional values and nuclear families as being "normal" or even prevalent in western society. I'm afraid those birds have flown...

BiffBiffBiff27 · 2019-08-01T11:01:52+00:00

MGTOW is not an ideology. The whole point is to go YOUR own way. If that means being celibate, fucking, marrying, whatever.. but do it righteously.

PhantomCowboy · 2019-08-01T10:55:51+00:00

I agree, but most people are ruled by animal instincts and find this too hard

eduardkoopman · 2019-08-01T10:12:19+00:00

MGTOW does not include pumping and dumping and casual dating.

As far as I know. The "boundry" is set at: no-marriage and/or co-habitation.

So it can or may include, a dude doing:
* pump dump
* relationship without co-habitation
* etc..

You are nurturing the same wheel (hookup culture & cock-carousel) that devoured us. Basically you are feeding the beast.

It's true. That this does often casse such men to give women: attention, money (like paying for dates, etc.), validation, etc...

So, ideally I agree. That a man goes monk mode.

Yet, for some men going monk mode. It's to much a bummer on their lifestyle. A sacrifise, a loss of an enjoyment; that they don't want to or can't stand to lose in their life.
Basically, being celibate, for plenty men, makes them feel to bad. And they can't handle that, and thus chose to go for sex still.
We mostly all want sex. Even monk mode mgtow's. Some can handle not fulfulling that want, and some can't. That's the reality, and it's not utpia we life in.
So I'm still okay with calling dudes that do: pump-dump; dating; non-cohabiating elationships, etc.. To call them MGTOW.. I'm okay with that. And lets face it; especailly young guys. Those hormones at that age (especially for very healty and fit young men); is massive. The thirst for sex is real.

Cizzar · 2019-08-01T11:20:17+00:00

If you can't stop the CC, why not profit from it ?

[deleted] · 2019-08-01T18:37:06+00:00

6 months ago most would agree, a year ago almost all would agree. This sub has been bombarded by men seeking a way to justify being with women when they know it’s a terrible idea. So they proceed to define that as going their own way while associating themselves with the freedom, independence, and connection to truth that mgtow offers. However, as long as your relationship with a woman is more than strictly prostitution, that’s not mgtow. Or at least it used to not be. Mgtow has changed its definition in the last year and a lot of og posters who started this have dipped imo, fed up with all the newcomers co-oping mgtow

paleotow · 2019-08-01T12:21:55+00:00

Dude don't try to apply your rules to MGTOW, stop trying to jump in front of the parade and start leading it.

MGTOW just means no marriage, no cohabitation; the rest is whatever pleases you best. As for pumping and dumping some old whore, well, a slice off a cut loaf is never missed.

DangZagnut · 2019-08-01T13:58:59+00:00

If you're using MGTOW as some sort of revenge, that sounds anti-mgtow to me. It's improvement of the self, saving life, and removing yourself from the game as it has no value.

If it's just to get back and Stacy, that's pretty silly.

Disregard them, acquire currency.

By not marrying them, cohabitation with them, and not giving them money you're saving yourself. Since women only get in relationships for money anyway, you're effectively removing them from your life.

Pumping and dumping has associated risks, some of which can be mitigated, but that's about it. You engage in what you have a risk appetite.

OatsGYOW · 2019-08-01T09:54:07+00:00

Basically you are feeding the beast.

So? Head over to /r/mensrights if you want to save the world.

gprime · 2019-08-01T13:52:34+00:00

You are nurturing the same wheel (hookup culture & cock-carousel) that devoured us.

This sounds like tradcon bullshit. The issue is not that some women are slutty, because were that the case, then there'd be a relatively easy solution of marrying devout religious women. The issue is the special social and legal protections extended to women that make them wholly unaccountable, and expose men to massive and ruinous risk in exchange for little to no discernible benefit. Given that, you can certainly be MGTOW while pumping and dumping. That said, it is still a course of action best avoided, because it relies on wasting time on women, and because it exposes you to greater risk of several varieties (legal, financial, health, drama).

Niggatonic · 2019-08-02T06:57:31+00:00

some dudes just have what it takes to be perfectly happy w/o women. i know a guy who will not refer to women as anything other than roasties. he is a virgin and proud of it. hes one of the funniest dudes i know. he legit doesnt give a single shit about women

most of us are not on that level OP, sorry. please dont leave us behind

[deleted] · 2019-08-02T12:16:15+00:00

MGTOW should be about Celibacy, we should encourage youngsters to practice Celibacy, Celibacy is not a choice it is the way Males are supposed to live and the only way to become neutral with God, escaping this vicious circle of life and death.

Dmapguy · 2019-08-01T12:09:23+00:00

Really don't care what people do with their sex life. If MGTOW want to "feed the beast", in your words, then let them. Consequences are theirs to bear if the situation goes south. However, they can't call themselves MGTOW if they get married.

P.S. I don't think MGTOW should feed the beast but you need to understand that humans can't be asexual. At least not easily.

[deleted] · 2019-08-01T13:33:14+00:00

MGTOW involves one following their own path as long as they do not Marry, so honestly a man can pump and dump as they wish, besides it's what nature intended.

AdventurousJacK · 2019-08-01T13:55:12+00:00

That’s right. But if she is already all used up, what is the problem? She can’t undo her bad decisions, she will never be a virgin again, so nothing of value was lost if you have some fun with them.

For me it’s been long over, too redpilled to believe in NAWALT, but I don’t bang virgin girls who did not prove their real nature yet. Yes, someday she will fuck someone’s life, but it’s not on me. Would like to hear your thoughts on that matter. Stay sharp, brothers.

strainer123 · 2019-08-01T16:03:05+00:00

If you want to have sex thats the only way to be moderately safe from female's destructive nature towards men nowadays, it won't save you from false accusations though, just enable it. I'm really divided on this, on one hand I feel way safer not even having one night stands with women, on the other I still feel the need for sex.

adool666 · 2019-08-01T17:55:50+00:00

Enjoy the decline.

edgysecularist · 2019-08-01T18:05:35+00:00

Womens only role is that of a vessel and being a helper, if not that then go full monk mode MGTOW

Amnesia2508 · 2019-08-01T20:28:33+00:00

The thing is when someone has fully swallowed the Red Pill (not Purple Pill like lots of tradcucks) then women start to lose their appeal to you in a very natural and spontaneous way.

You literally wake up from the dreams you had about them before and now you see them as they are and not what you want them to be. Sure biology sometimes rears its head because you see an attractive body, but just look for the warning signs in her (there's bound to be one major one) and your dick will go back to sleep pretty quickly.

IkemenKyoushi23 · 2019-08-02T02:17:30+00:00

Men do whatever the fuck they want to do, period.

RationalMenWin · 2019-08-01T17:04:38+00:00

The "beast" survives because of blue-pilled cucks and state power. Pump and dump/casual dating does not feed that beast, its already stuffed. The beta's who orbit and give women free money for their existence are the ones who are literally feeding the beast. That system is self-sustaining.

Do you think if men stopped pumping and dumping that female entitlement and gynocracy would die?

That would be incredibly naive.

ST0NEHILL · 2019-08-01T17:42:06+00:00

Our hands, dolls, & fleshlights get old after a while bro. I’m not paying for a whore, so what are the other options? There is a deep physical urge for men to fuck something. That is the end result. #MGTOW (and wrap your tool)

GoMake_me_a_sandwich · 2019-08-01T09:47:17+00:00

Get the fock out of here. MGTOW is not celibacy either. Take your righteous virtue signalling somewhere else.

WeNeverWent2Space · 2019-08-01T10:31:15+00:00

Nothing to see here, just another god cuck who thinks it's mgtows job to make sure girls can't get pumped by the thousands of Chad cocks they so desperately crave. Like that would solve anything. Stupid post.

Title	Unpopular opinion
Author	sem1Colon
Upvotes	78
Comments	98
Date	August 1, 2019 9:43 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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