Am I the only one here who wants kids?

PressNeinForGerman · 2019-01-22T17:30:58+00:00

I definitely don't want to have a person that's going to cost me a lot of money, ruin my sleep schedule, and take away from my hobbies. In fact, if I wanted that I would date.

jamocadyn · 2019-01-22T17:03:40+00:00

There's an old saying---"you can't get there from here". Paying a surrogate (you'd have to buy an egg as well--I think there are egg banks just as there are sperm banks--but way more expensive) is probably the only sure fire way of having your own child--but be sure to use lawyers to make sure the surrogate won't renege and keep the child for herself and make you pay child support...I have two sons myself. Be advised having children takes up a lot of your time and they're not angels 24/7. I enjoyed raising them and going on "adventures" (just them and me--no mom)...and you'll always advise them and guide them (and worry about them) even when they're grown. (I'm seeing that with my parents--I'm almost 53--as I'm deploying overseas)

VisibleTheory · 2019-01-22T17:23:43+00:00

Yes sons are great.

TheCookShow · 2019-01-22T17:04:58+00:00

No bro, you are not crazy.

I can't say I definitely want a kid in the future, as I'm not a huge kids lover (LOL), but it did cross my mind. I just think it is about timing and a lot of people can't accept that in this modern world, bringing a child to this world/adopting at a young age is not the smartest decision.

Just go with it man, don't be stressed about having/adopting one. I believe you'll know when the time is right.

ValhallaWillCome · 2019-01-22T17:53:15+00:00

I used to always hate kids to the point where I would actively avoid my cousins because they had kids. I have had a change of heart lately, and that’s because I see how devoid of manliness they’re being raised, that’s for both the boys and girls. I tried to be a bit more around them and taking them just about everywhere. Kids have a nasty habit of growing on you. These are kids ranging in ages from 1 to 13.

I’m not sure I want to have some of my own, like you, I wouldn’t trust the mother not to screw me over and what I’ve heard about surrogacy doesn’t sound promising. As far as I can tell, my local laws give the woman every right to the kid until the kid is formally ‘adopted’ by you. If she decides to take the kid you’re both out of the money and liable for child support and not a lot of visitation, if you even get that.

Only other option I see is adopting or becoming a foster parent. But both here are preferred for couples. Guess I’ll never raise a kid while I’m here.

Gibits · 2019-01-22T19:06:11+00:00

I always wanted to be a father and I am the proud father of a boy and girl. Although I do regret the circumstances. I was in a pretty terrible marriage and my eldest was sperm jacked.

I am lucky that my ex doesn’t really want to care for them and never fought me for sole custody and I get regular access to them. I love being a dad. It’s great, and if I suddenly lost my kids I really think I’d kill my self. They are the reason I solder on. I know it makes no financial sense to have kids, all they do is take and event leaves you to have their own lives. But they adore me and I think men just want to be appreciated for their sacrifices. Something modern day women don’t.

If you do knock up a girl, I suggest marrying her for 1-2 years then divorcing her. This established paternal rights for visitations while minimizing alimony to 0.5-1 year (half the length of the marriage of under 10 years). Of course there is child support but kids cost money and you knew that already. If you don’t marry her then establishing parental rights is much harder and the legal fees will outweigh alimony.

Surrogacy is another option but it’s legality is murky. Also you have to face that moment where your son will ask you about his mother.

Disbursed-operant · 2019-01-22T20:34:02+00:00

I'd say you cant be MGTOW and want to raise a healthy son. Kids need to have a mother and a father. They need a two parent household to grow up well.

Mgtow walks away from all of that.

[deleted] · 2019-01-22T21:06:34+00:00

Surrogacy. Plain and simple. Will be cheaper than marriage in the long run.

sedstar · 2019-01-23T01:04:30+00:00

On cold hard logic? Woman have 2 basic functions we need them for... sex and childbearing. ANything else is just fairytale stuff we might or might not believe in...

Unfortunately? society and feminism has slowly "eroded" the "deal" between men and women? so... *shrugs* its not logical.

I'm simply WONDERFUL with children and animals, you dont spend 10 seconds around me and not SEE it? and it sometimes shocks newcomers around me, they have this pre-conceived notion of how i "certainly must be" form observing me for a while?

NONE of this, me being wonderful with animals and children, or the way they respond to me? Makes it any more "logical" for me to get "baited" back onto the plantation...

I mean, I really REALLY want to go swimming? in that wonderful hot springs over there? I'm just smart enough to know that there's rattlesnakes around that warm hot springs watering hole, lol... if i'm lucky enough to get into the water? i might get bit IN the water, or getting OUT of the water...

so? tempted as i am? fuck that...

deathtocontrollers · 2019-01-22T17:21:45+00:00

Technology has made it so you can basically buy a kid with your DNA. But I still don't want one because I see nothing to gain from having a kid.

MuleFool42 · 2019-01-22T17:41:42+00:00

I think it's natural to want to have and take care of kids. You can still be MGTOW and do that. Just don't marry the mother or live with her. Fight for 50% custody so you don't have to pay child support, or very minimal, and you should be fine.

Most kids are born out of wedlock these days, so it'd kind of the norm, actually.

MarkAurelios · 2019-01-23T03:23:16+00:00

Men dont want children. They want sons. They want heirs to their name.

But in order to have an heir, you need something for that kid to inherit.

I once wanted children, but when the romantic idea of it struck me I just understood; I'm not putting kids into this fucked up world

DangZagnut · 2019-01-22T18:02:53+00:00

Much like with unicorn wives, you think you’ll have a unicorn son.

In staistical reality you’re much more likely to have a kid with some sort of developmental disorder where you get to change a teenagers diapers, before you shove him in a group home and forget about him.

Or in school he becomes a simply soy boy who blames you for all the world’s problems.

Red pills aren’t all pleasant.

H1v3-m1nd · 2019-01-22T18:43:35+00:00

I have some kind of desire for kids, but as with relationships I know they aren’t as great as everyone makes them out to be

Aashami · 2019-01-22T21:07:03+00:00

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ikhwan_arif · 2019-01-23T00:06:00+00:00

There are a number of MGTOWs in your predicament i.e. wanting kids but can't knowing what they know.

Title	Am I the only one here who wants kids?
Author	Aashami
Upvotes	5
Comments	39
Date	January 22, 2019 4:49 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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