I went MGTOW a long time ago, after seeing what marriage did to my dad. How do I convince my friends that it's not because I'm "bad at talking to girls?"

ParalyticPoison · 2019-07-11T05:39:21+00:00

Might sound bad depending who you are, this is what I did. I got rid of my simp friends, and hope for their sake they get over the brain-washing at some point. There is only so much you can preach to somebody before they just block you out, and if they don't respect you enough to hear your reasoning out, they probably are not the best friends in the first place. This is what I saw, including many other things, and I bailed on those guys.

Older_Miggy · 2019-07-11T05:50:35+00:00

Quit trying to convince anyone of anything.

Just live your life.

DangZagnut · 2019-07-11T05:42:35+00:00

Never get into that conversation. They worship pussy, and you don't, clearly that'll be a problem.

You want to keep them? Don't challenge their childish drives. Just skip that topic.

[deleted] · 2019-07-11T05:45:20+00:00

MGTOW is the openly public gentlemen's club where the only admission fee is the acceptance of stark reality. Just try to help them out when they are ready to accept it. Trying to force a simp to think outside the box is an exercise in futility. Let them believe whatever they want until the time is right. There will be plenty of time for an "I told you so."

mcgillisfareed331 · 2019-07-11T05:39:50+00:00

You don’t need to convince them besides let people judge what they will you are just wasting your time and effort on them

Ody_ssey · 2019-07-11T05:44:37+00:00

Let them do whatever they want. Soon after their relationship, the consequences will be visible.

cycloneous · 2019-07-11T06:40:35+00:00

I went MGTOW a long time ago, after seeing what marriage did to my dad. How do I convince my friends that it's not because I'm "bad at talking to girls?"

Friends would respect the fact that you are living YOUR life as you see fit. If they were your real friends, they wouldn't need convincing at all. My circle of friends is extremely small, many colleagues, many acquaintances, but only 3 real friends. That's it.

With regards to your friends, lose them. If they are losers, lose them faster then a speeding bullet!

I have a loser policy and it is really simple: I don't associate with losers; no exceptions. I have family members that are losers, and hang out with losers. Guess what? I don't hang out of with them.

Only have people in your life that will give and provides mutual benefit otherwise you're just wasting your time.

[deleted] · 2019-07-11T06:57:33+00:00

Don't convince them.. get rid of your friends. Find new ones or get a dog.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2019-07-11T07:59:11+00:00

Let them say whatever they want, shrug and do not go into discussion.
Your choice is your choice, you don't owe anyone an explanation.

Bluex22 · 2019-07-11T05:43:05+00:00

You don’t need to convince your friends anything. Let them think what they want. You sound young. You’ll learn one day, soon enough, that when you truly don’t give af what people think you’ll be happier & feel free.

Also, I agree masturbating is fine but it’s definitely not the same as sex, in terms of feeling or enjoyment.

teatdip102 · 2019-07-11T11:41:08+00:00

Unplugging men from the Matrix is like triage. Save who you can, read last rites to the dying and move on to the next.

FutureSquall · 2019-07-11T20:11:18+00:00

You’re a merc surrounded by knights.

[deleted] · 2019-07-11T06:06:52+00:00

If you're friends are intelligent logic and reason should suffice.Time spent dealing with your girl vs time not spent on earning money'''Money spent on your girl vs saving for your futureTry not to put it into a debate style, as the band wagon effect within a group would be a stronger force. Humble yourself and try to sound preachy with something like "well, that's just my opinion and how i think about it. You can see it however you want but this is how i see it."

[deleted] · 2019-07-11T07:17:47+00:00

Amen. Friends are usually full of shit

shun2311 · 2019-07-11T07:42:08+00:00

Easy, don't reply don't care and they will cease to ask, especially when you have wealth, looks or height

waterfat · 2019-07-11T07:59:27+00:00

It's your business tell your friends to fuck off.

Hell, you wont gab most of them in 20 years time so I'm serious, fuck them and tell them to mind their own fucking business.

Next, dont talk about mgtow to people like that, they dont and cant understand right now.

Miggymoggy · 2019-07-11T09:45:56+00:00

You can do nothing but sit back and watch them crash n burn because chasing women is their main focus in life and also will be their downfall, which men whom I went to school / college with, learnt the hard way as they're my age (36) with broken marriages, divorces, multiple children, in massive debts and on child support, which they haven't got a pot to piss in, as the old saying goes.....Myself on the other hand has savings, a good job and only one debt (a mortgage).

Is chasing women really worth it? To me NO.

pwnzusauce · 2019-07-11T12:39:38+00:00

Keep it to yourself, most people won’t accept the reality and would prefer to live with blinds on

dravenaus · 2019-07-11T12:55:57+00:00

How old are you? The way it sounds, you and your friends are in the 15-25 group. In this stage, it's almost impossible for someone inexperienced to get the grasp of mgtow, but don't despair. Tell them about the girls you've had a chance with, and when they ask why didn't you proceed any further, tell them that you don't feel like spending lots of money yet.

MuleFool42 · 2019-07-11T20:44:19+00:00

Yeah, best description that I resort to is to remove women from the equation altogether. MGTOW is about how society views men. Society's laws read neutral but the enforcement of those laws is biased against men because they are men. Divorce law, family law, Domestic Violence law enforcement, University Tribunals (Title IX) and Workplace Policy (#MeToo and HR enforcement at work).

It's completely NOT about women. It's about men making the logical, pragmatic, commonsense, choices in order to ensure the best possible life for themselves. Sure, those choices include not getting married, not living with women, and not adopting or taking care of another man's child, but that's NOT because of women, but because of how society arbitrates relationships between people, primarily to the detriment of men.

Once you convince people that it's not about hating women, but actually, not about women AT ALL, then it begins to sink in. You can love women in your life, mom, grandma, sister, gf, whatever, and still be MGTOW because it's never been about hate. It's about mitigating the colossal risk that society poses to you because you are a man.

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