best friend(female) noticed a change in my attitude [TL;DR] included

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-06-13T02:41:27+00:00

She's not your friend. You are her validation and ego boost under the guise of friendship.

Here's what I think you should do. Cut her off.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-06-13T02:54:56+00:00

I WAS CONSIDERING CASUAL SEX WITH YOU, BUT SINCE YOU SAID THAT, I WON'T DO IT.

Lie lie lie.

In other words, you got me, and I wanna make you regret it. Make her give you a menage with her hot friend.

VZPurp · 2013-06-13T02:55:57+00:00

She's using you for attention and validation. You are a beta orbiter, not a friend. Stop that shit.

Ragnar09 · 2013-06-13T04:15:28+00:00

You haven't swallowed the pill if you still talk to her. Cut her off

James_Coook · 2013-06-13T09:49:57+00:00

I'd gone through a very similar thing literally two weeks ago. It was this "friendship" that helped me see TRP theories in action. EDIT: We'll call her Clara.

The physical intimacy started off the bat, when I first met her. We made out a few times. Even in my more beta days, I had that playful, gamey vibe on occasion. But I got friendly, got relaxed. If she invited me somewhere, I would go. Even if it was for the third day in a row, and just with her friends. Attraction waned. She found another guy. Several of them actually, whilst I stood idly at the sidelines.

Me and Clara remains friends. Give it some time, I find seduction and TRP. I apply things I've learned, and the attraction comes back. Resume physical intimacy (alas, I never slept with her). I stop putting up with bullshit - and my gosh, the bullshit I was putting up with but never realized ...in fact, OP, you're probably subject to this, too. Try and look out for it. When she does stuff like:

she then told me she was considering casual sex but the incident made her second guess that.

That's her giving you bullshit. That's a shit test. Laugh. Laugh in her face. Just don't take it seriously. If you take it seriously at all, it reinforces the idea that she's above you (which will not help you, if your aim is to sleep with her) because it comes with the underlying assumption that the reason you two aren't having sex is because of her. I mean, that's most likely true. But when you don't take it seriously, you begin to put a question to that assumption.

In fact, look at what she said that in response to:

this made her think that i was the jealous type.

She knows you want her. When she tells you she was considering casual sex, that's her teasing you. Because it feeds her ego. It's quite sadistic, actually. Stop taking these things seriously.

But that's not enough. You need to make yourself a sexual option. Start talking to some other girls (new, old, whatever, as long as they're attractive). Get close with them. Get intimate. Let word get round of the new, stud version of you.

And start generating attraction. Kino. Posture. Eye contact. Voice inflection.

Assuming you aren't physically horrendously unattractive, she will turn. You will be the one "dangling sex" in front of her "like meat hanging from a stick". But the great thing about it is, at that point, you couldn't care less.

Unfortunately, I had to cut it off with Clara. She tried pulling one of the biggest shit tests I'd ever run into. It was this that made me realize,

She's not your friend. You are her validation and ego boost under the guise of friendship.

I cannot emphasize this enough. You have two options. Cut her off, or stop caring about being her friend. Because you aren't.

And for the record, I cut Clara off two weeks ago.

Petrarch1603 · 2013-06-13T04:31:24+00:00

Women love to play that "I was going to fuck you, but X happened and I second guessed myself" bullshit. Don't buy it, they say it to plant FUD in your mind and keep you under her control. She's manipulating you, its time to man up and find new friends.

2013-06-13T08:05:27+00:00

she dangled sex infront of me like meat hanging from a stick

She is not your fucking friend? The hell is the matter with you?

socal83 · 2013-06-13T08:30:22+00:00

Man... this made me cringe so hard...

You need muchos help senior ~

2013-06-13T15:44:28+00:00

it's really time that you pulled away from her. you keep giving and get nothing in return but grief and disappointment. stop being a supplicating lapdog; it's not attractive. have some fucking respect for yourself and your desires. do not give emotional support if you get nothing in return. you're being the male equivalent of a slutty woman who fucks alpha guys hoping that she'll land a relationship, never does, but keeps fucking the guys anyway with the hope that they dudes will change. stop giving emotional support/ego boosts for free. it's your primary currency with women!

by the way, i would advise that you stay away from bipolar women. i've had several in my life, and it's been nothing but trouble for all the effort i've put in to "help" them over the years. it's not worth it, and you don't owe them anything. there are plenty of sane women out there who will treat you well without putting you on a rollercoaster of hysteria.

tuxidomasx · 2013-06-13T02:48:11+00:00

oneitis is a disease. abundance is the remedy. go forth and get some.

Omnipitron · 2013-06-13T02:57:09+00:00

I second Always. Dude, you may be looking at this the wrong way. What you’ve done is begun to grasp the strength that a few men have known about in the past but many have forgotten about now. The reality is that men do not need women to survive, and that when a woman encounters a man who inherently knows this, this seems to turn their cranks.

I would strongly suggest that you double down. Not because you wish to sleep with this woman, but only to strengthen yourself. The biggest mistake that many men make when committing to a woman, is thinking that they are the ones who made out like bandits. More men need to realize that they are the ones who are taking on the short end of the stick and need to make their women realize that they are the lucky ones.

You’ve taken the Red Pill, I’m telling you right now my good man. So many of those karma stories you’ve read about on the Androsphere I’ve seen myself in real life. Many of my friends in highschool where females. Karma hits the entitled woman exceptionally hard as they age.

Learn a little bit more about Game, it may not be a cure all, but it is ridiculous how well it does work overall. Maybe this woman is the one you’re supposed to be with, then again, maybe she isn’t. However, and this is the point I wish to share with you, that you have made yourself less available to her on some level and she has noticed this about you and changed her approach.

You have to realize one very important thing, at the very least you have shown her and yourself something, that you aren’t a doormat and that even a little bit of Game works.

Sword11 · 2013-06-13T15:31:21+00:00

You are still her gay friend since you still hang out with her.

Stop hanging out with her at all. She needs to learn you guys are either fucking or you are out

Crazyjanda · 2013-06-13T16:47:41+00:00

I think you don't need this girl at all. She is a load fuck insecure, she does not know what the shit she wants, she changes the mind on the whim. She is a little princess and I fucking hate little princesses and for the good reason you should too and here my online friend we have such a reason.

Tl;DR She might be good for your cock, but hardly for anything else.

James_Coook · 2013-06-13T13:39:49+00:00

Brother you are expending waaaaay too much effort into this girl. Time to cut your losses and NEXT her.

acoti · 2013-09-13T00:57:16+00:00

So /u/befreethinkfree what ended up happening?

Title	best friend(female) noticed a change in my attitude [TL;DR] included
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Upvotes	9
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Date	June 13, 2013 2:31 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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