What purpose do men have in western society now?

Vaxel00 · 2019-03-11T19:24:17+00:00

Men are more necessary than you think, even more than what feminists thinks.

The thing about feminism, like socialism, it only works till you run out of other people's money and welfare is a ponsi scheme that relies on wealth redistribution depending on other people's labor.

Society needs infrastructure and someone to maintain it, that's mostly men.

If your purpose is derived from a woman and a family then you're screwed, men are absolutely necessary in a family but we're vilified and broken by the system.

Hence mgtow.

No one can give you purpose, I personally believe that nothing has inherent purpose or value other than what people subjectively give.

anongogogo · 2019-03-11T19:16:11+00:00

That's what the elites what you to do. Work 9-5 like a slave to increase their pockets. That's essentially what marriage is on the West.

Learn to be indifferent. Fuck society.

Haywood_Jablomie42 · 2019-03-11T19:31:23+00:00

You need to realize that there is no "point" to life, regardless of race or gender. Just enjoy your life as much as possible before you die.

krenovinspired · 2019-03-11T20:27:14+00:00

First, seeking validation (purpose) from either females or society is a fool's errand. Purpose comes from inside, not from the outside.

Second, if you truly believe what you wrote, strive to be the best at whatever you do. If they're going to hate you anyway, you might as well give them a "good" reason for it.

Third, the women and family thing ain't all it's cracked up to be. Want to be a positive influence in the lives of kids? There are countless ways to do that without ever yoking yourself to the farce marriage has become.

Finally, stop being a victim. Victims get nowhere, and accomplish nothing. You are measuring your life by what THEY SAY is normal. Freedom, in this day and age isn't "normal". Be abnormal.

The key to happiness is not having what you want, it's wanting what you have.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2019-03-11T19:12:48+00:00

Purpose can be elusive.

Most men find it in either family or career. At this juncture, there are no longer traditional guides as to what your purpose is or should be. That’s where it gets scary.

But it is a worthy search. I do not know what I would do without my children or my employer.

2019-03-11T19:24:12+00:00

No, you have YOUR purpose.

Don't be sad because there's nobody holding the other end of the leash, be happy that you are finally a wolf, free to roam.

zubbs99 · 2019-03-11T20:13:33+00:00

Your biological drives are intact as is your social indoctrination.

The current societal woes stem back roughly +/-100 years. But even though the system has been breaking down for a while and the social decay is accelerating recently you still got stuffed full of lots of old school programming as a child. Plus, you're fighting 300 million years of evolutionary genetic programming that you carry in every cell in your body.

The system is broken. You are not.

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." ~ Jiddu Krishnamurti

You are now entering a phase of cognitive dissonance, everything you ever knew to be true has turned out to be a lie. Red pill. The old patterns are entrenched. The new pattern has not been fully, dominantly established. You are conflicted and in pain.

Human brains like patterns, any pattern, so long as it is repetitive. And they hate breaking old patterns.

Your current pattern is a self-reinforcing negative feed back loop leading to a downward spiral.

You need to break the pattern. Go do something, anything positive with value to *you*. And that includes socialize with other men who are in pain or have passed through it. Here is OK to touch base. You need more. Find a local pick up game in the park, join a team, pick up martial arts, 12 step program. etc.

In the words of Jordan Peterson "You have to orient yourself towards something. Otherwise you're just disoriented and spinning around, getting nowhere. It's not a good solution."

I cannot offer you purpose. I can tell you how I found my own: I went through a lot of bad shit. I learned a lot from it. I decided to help people with what I've learned; just like I'm trying to help you.

IMHO, the only thing that gives my life meaning is what I chose to do with what I learn while I am here.

The next stage is typically rage.

This is a good place to vent.

After the rage for me was finding frame. Now I have fun fucking with bitches minds at places like the gym.

But I'm fighting with my sex drive now. I come here for reminders when I get horny. It's not easy. Nothing good and worthwhile in life ever is.

You can pick up all kinds of info here. Some of it off the wall, but maybe helpful too. I'm getting bored with my current version of masturbation and it's causing me to crave pussy. I poked around here for a bit (see what I did there?) and pick up some info on fleshlights. I'll probably end up trying them.

It's your life brother. Forge your own path. GYOW. The world has rejected you. You are in the process of rejecting it back. And you're going through withdrawals now. It sucks. But don't despair. There are still good things out in the world. You just have to hunt really hard to find them; which BTW has a far better ROI than hunting bitches.

If you get in the habit of seeking out positive things that are in line with your newly forming set of values then your brain will start seeking that pattern bc brains like repetition. You can literally reprogram yourself.

And life will get better brother,

Good luck.

TL;DR: All of that is a long winded, sincere way of telling you that you need to pull your head out of your ass and find your own path.

PS: And I owe thanks to a brother in my life young enough to be my son who recently lead me back to the path I should have chosen.

1-800-CALL-MGTOW · 2019-03-11T19:14:03+00:00

Im working on being a teacher, writer, speaker, life coach. My purpose is to educate and empower myself and others who are willing. Do not worry about what society wants from you, because they do not have your interests in heart.

Emanresu_rouy_esoohc · 2019-03-11T19:25:33+00:00

We just don't have any value to women other than a short fling or until they empty your bank account.

I want to take care of a woman, to raise a family together. I feel robbed and assaulted at every angle by society to deny me from expressing my natural urges.

Dude, it is time to drop your need for female approval. Why do you wanna be a SIMP?

SekaiNoHeipo · 2019-03-11T19:10:35+00:00

I want to take care of a woman, to raise a family together.

r/TheRedPill is that way --->

Im_Talking · 2019-03-11T21:56:42+00:00

Just writing the above question means that you have drunk the feminist kool-aid. What kind-of question is that? We are the prize. We get things done. We run society. We have value by the actions that we do, not by some empty fluffy words.

We are the prize. Repeat this in your head 100 times a day.

Vaxel00 · 2019-03-11T23:35:02+00:00

I want to add.

"The purpose in your life is whatever is preventing you from killing yourself"

Albert Camus

Freefrombitches123 · 2019-03-11T23:38:19+00:00

What did you do when you found out Santa wasn't real, you went to school and got a job and bought your own God dam toys. C'mon you've got this.

zubbs99 · 2019-03-11T23:59:36+00:00

Alot of us feel this sense of aimlessness. Many of our archetypal roles have either been condemned by, or usurped by modern feminist women. However at the same time we're still expected to grind away dutifully for females with no appreciation for our efforts or sacrifices. I've learned to look at it positively though - at least alot of us who see the unfairness have spared ourselves the burdens and consequences of those who get lured into the decaying marital/divorce system.

I don't have any great answers for you, except to have faith that you'll find a meaningful path in spite of this adversity. But if nothing else I can tall you your feelings are understandable and you're absolutely not alone.

Relentlessence · 2019-03-12T00:02:48+00:00

To join the forces and die in some Middle Eastern shithole for Israel.

801735 · 2019-03-11T19:29:47+00:00

Here's an idea, crafted for you specifically.

Start thinking and especially writing, being vocal, discussing with everybody in your close circle, more about why Trump won and focus on exclusively good things he's done, is doing and will do in the future. Start supporting him openly, you can do this! Without it, you really have no purpose anymore.

There, this should spike your estrogen levels, excitement and blood pressure. ]=)

Thoughts?

consios88 · 2019-03-11T19:46:15+00:00

son dudes have to get stronger, dog you justifying suicide because your not useful to a bitch lol come on fam.

zxcv46 · 2019-03-11T22:31:32+00:00

Consider bee colonies. There are worker bees, drones, and queens. Worker bees do all the work and don't reproduce. Drones don't do work and reproduce. The queen doesn't work and reproduces. Apply the model to human society. The goal is to get men to be neutered workers.

DT1726 · 2019-03-12T02:03:44+00:00

I feel as though I have no purpose anymore. Femenism teaches us men are the problem, that we are toxic.

You have been liberated brother, if you are not expected to sacrifice for society then use your everyday time to better yourself. There are more to a man's life than just being a slave and driven to death by women or society. Check this out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs.

"What a man can be, he must be". Be the best version of yourself that your mind and body can allow, this will bring you the greatest fulfillment more so than a family or a woman.

2019-03-11T20:37:56+00:00

Its a sad state but life is tough. You might find a unicorn who is hardworking and faithful. Until then, better yourself. If you want to provide for women and children, sponsor a child in Africa or donate to a rape crisis center. They need assistance more than a spoiled girl with daddy's credit card.

Pimozv · 2019-03-11T20:45:48+00:00

Welcome to hell. Surviving it is challenging, but if you can, you can also walk through it.

https://youtu.be/Pc8YllbFy5U

2019-03-11T22:38:38+00:00

Our purpose is to go our own motherfucking way, and only that.

meerita · 2019-03-11T23:47:41+00:00

below 65 for sure.

sundmah5 · 2019-03-12T03:42:55+00:00

I feel your pain brother.i realize this is mgtow but there ought to be non indoctrinated, non feminist women out there looking for same things as you do. Eastern Europe,Russia, Slavic countries may be your best bet.

2019-03-16T05:27:17+00:00

This is what happens when your ancestors chose to build the white male identity at the expense of everyone, including white women. Now that all these groups are fighting for their freedom, you are faced with an existential crisis. All the things that white men did depended on mistreating others. This is why you feel like you can't do anything without being demonized. All the things you know as a white man are in some way racist, sexist, etc., you get it.

And have you noticed? You have no allies not even your own women! This has to destroy any man from the inside. Externally, what group of people can white men call upon for aid if they find themselves in hard times? None. Even your own women do not want to suffer with you. Other races of women would die by their husband's side or help him if he is disabled. Would your women? NOPE.

There is a reason why your people follow such a suicidal political path collectively. You have screwed over everyone, and you know that once you lose power as a group it's over for you. Thus, white men vote against their economic interest for white (male) supremacy because they know full well the clock is ticking to their demise. They vote against policies that would help them and others because they are afraid of what others might do to them if they gain power.

Here's the thing, if your ancestors for the last 2,000 years (and white men in power today) valued anything besides power--and the death and destruction they were so willing to impose on others for it--you would at least be left with your women at your side. But white men exploited and treated their own women like trash no different than they treated other races. The only value white women had was their ability to give sons for continued domination and oppression of others.

From India, China, Latin Americas, Jews, and Africans, your ancestors demonstrated no ounce of morality, value for human life, care for justice or civility. Instead of reflecting and repenting, white men always chose the route that involved murdering innocent people. Your moral depravity even reached a point where white men now kill innocent kids. Sorry, I meant white kids. White men were murdering little children and raping kids from the time of the Romans.

You are now without purpose because your purpose was explicitly built from oppressing others. It does not stand alone. The white male identity=oppression of others. Your ancestors never imagined as they put millions of Africans on slave ships, millions of Jews in gas chambers, murdered millions of Native Americas, etc., that you would someday be at the mercy of others.

Sure they gave it their best try with colonialism/imperialism. Then they did their best to keep control of the narrative by spouting things like so and so group is inferior, so and so group is [fill in the blank]. But they failed. We now know that the white man is the epitome of evil and all that is to be hated. Your ancestors knew long ago your time was limited when they were traveling around the world and raping women of "ethnic" background. They discovered it was written in your DNA. Your inferiority. So visible, the only strategy they could come up with was oppressing others. You see, the white male is a genetic anomaly, a composition of all recessive genes that if Nature had it's way you would have never existed. But not to worry. Nature always wins. With every life you killed, you killed your own moral compass. With every ecosystem you destroyed, you yourself raised the global temperature to levels unsuitable for white people. This has been shown to directly increase suicide rates in whites--great job!--while making it more suitable for minorities. Brilliant! (Your high IQ is quite remarkable lol)

It seems that the white male purpose is collapsing as your time to continue exploit the world is coming to an end. The few at the top will keep trying. It might require the continuous suicide of white men for 100 years. Right now ~100 white men kill themselves everyday. How many is that in 100 years? Will it get the # of white men to 0? I doubt it, but that will not be necessary. At some point, justice will prevail. The Earth will prevail. Humanity will prevail.

MarriedZombie · 2019-03-12T00:06:36+00:00

We could always start a war, a war on everyone, steamroll through countries asserting our dominance. Reset the balance.

gnulinuxlol · 2019-03-12T10:00:52+00:00

generating tax income for the welfare state

Title	What purpose do men have in western society now?
Author	mgcameltow
Upvotes	61
Comments	37
Date	March 11, 2019 7:03 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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