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[–]ConstantChinner90 points91 points92 points 7 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Never happen. Women do not care about children, they only care about themselves.
[–]ElegantBiscuit45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some will even use children to further their own gain, then neglect them when they are no longer of use.
[–]ajbrooks1929 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
That is biologically incorrect, their bodies release chemicals when it is born for them to care and love for it.
[–]RancidRoger13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not always true as I have seen it firsthand.
[–]ajbrooks1927 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is true but exceptions don't make the rule
[+]mirocj-6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's not an exception when it happens most of the time.
[–]ajbrooks192-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Do you have any proof or facts to your claim that most womens biological make up don't provide the essential chemicals to their brain to care for their child?
[–]iManZul-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
do you have the proof for the reverse?
[–]ajbrooks1923 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂
Are you joking? That is one instance from one person. That doesn't prove majority. Do I have proof of that biological function? Yes. There is a lot of it.
[–]CREEPY_CUP_OF_TEA1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your anecdotal evidence is not proof. Do better.
[–]ajbrooks192-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did you mean to reply to the other guy? What do you mean my anecdotal proof? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills right now
[–]GothAnnie4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Must be some sort of chemical that enhances narcissism or something.
[–]ajbrooks1922 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ability to care for a child and narcism can exist at the same time
[–]cobaltcolander1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are right, but alas, like with everything else with women, it's only temporary. Men take the long-term approach with parenting, as with everything else.
[–]ajbrooks192-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you base that thought on? My mum is 60 and is super involved in my life to a fault?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
agreed, i see many guys here say women do not love children. they just had a shitty psycho self centered mom. i grew up with a very giving, loving, caring mother. it actually fucked me up for years because i thought i could have that same type of psychological bond with my wife which isn't true.
what we do see is a crisis in ego and self identity. women often by age 25 have gotten so many years of hot chad and old rich guy dick they have no concept of self responsibility. they are getting older and know they need to lock down a guy but are corrupted by years of using sex and their body to get money and be treated well.
they are quite aware that is about to end, which is why so many modern women use children as a bargaining resource. it's not that women cannot love children, just most modern women are complete narcissists.
and the ones that like abortion simply are drug addicts, addicted to the sexual release and power they have over men with at least some self awareness that they'll make super shitty parents so they prevent it. i'm anti abortion as i get older but i still think abortion is better than what many single mothers become, just popping out kids with no real respect for family, marriage or their husband and bring up kids in a fragmented families which leads to a fucked up society.
[–]MrTheFalcon5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men love thier women > women love thier children > children love puppies
When a woman aborts babies without remorse or any change in birth control measures, it's pathological. When that's happening more often than not, we have a pathological society.
[–]cobaltcolander4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some will even use children as a living umbrella.
[–]RedditRouge0038 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
They wouldn’t allow it to gain traction. They will say it’s “ my body , my choice” which will negate any form of criticism towards their actions. Sad world we live in.
[–]Baldrbaldr1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bionic womb is coming. 15 years and it will be here. Until then, surrogacy.
[–]fenbekus0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Okay but that literally is their body, why do they have to go through extreme pain because you want a baby?
[–]JimmyKiddo2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Because the ownership isn't 100% the mothers, a father was still required to create that baby. Furthermore, father's ought to have a say because they will be the ones who have to support that child through child support.
[–]fenbekus-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
After birth, sure, I support equal rights and all, but you just cannot tell someone to go through extreme pain while you’re doing pretty much nothing outside of shooting out sperm, once.
[–]JimmyKiddo1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
No, you support equal rights for everyone except the fetus. They have bodily autonomy and a right to live.
[–]fenbekus-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
An unwanted fetus is nothing but a parasite if it cannot love outside the host body.
[–]JimmyKiddo1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Calling a fetus that will become a living human being a parasite is reprehensible.
[–]fenbekus-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
...through pain and suffering of someone who doesn’t even want it and will later be disgusted by their own body and may even lead to suicide, more compassion dude.
[–]JimmyKiddo0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't lecture me about compassion when you are advocating for murdering a human being.
[–]fenbekus-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this a human being according to you? I don’t know what people you have contact with, but they definitely do not look like this.
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[–]Atton_Risk1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am glad your consistent but the argument of bodily autonomy comes out rather short when you consider modern birth control.
[+]cobaltcolander-7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The fetus is not the mother's body. She provides nutrition to the fetus, but she is not the fetus. I am an atheist but I never understood the mental hamstering that pro-abortionists go through to justify the murder of an unborn person.
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[–]cobaltcolander-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why should a woman be forced to be pregnant
Nobody forces her to be pregnant!
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
She had a choice to use protection so she wouldn't get pregnant, THAT was HER choice!!
[+][deleted] 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"we don't have the right to control their body" so you're saying only they can decide what to do, and if they want to kill the baby at any time, it's only their choice?
Men don't have any rights and say about their unborn baby? Is that what you're saying?
If two people fuck they accept the responsibility of possible pregnancy, they are both to blame.
The point is, there would be 95% less abortions if they used protection.
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[–]kinkythrowaway7311 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for saying this. Removing a small bundle of cells is not murder. It’s not a person yet. They don’t wait until 9 months then machete it out! Just as pulling a seed out of the ground doesn’t mean you’ve chopped down a tree. A fetus doesn’t even resemble a human. It’s at the point where you wouldn’t be able to tell between it or a dolphin fetus or a chicken fetus. Pro life propaganda is amazing in how they convince so many people of a lie entirely removed from science.
And if everyone wants to avoid child support payments so much why do they also want to force women to have the kid in this overpopulated world?
[–]Atton_Risk1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So where would you draw the line?
[–]kinkythrowaway731 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure! I have a degree in biology but I didn’t study this type of development to have a hard stance on the exact date. I just don’t believe all abortion is murder. I think first trimester should definitely be legal. I’m not sure about second, definitely not third. But I’m just a dude on the internet so who knows!
[+][deleted] -17 points-16 points-15 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Makes no sense, it's not the womans body she is killing, it's the baby's.
The baby belongs to the man who gave it to her.
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[–]crshdurmomlstngt0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
I am with you on your argument, particularly in the case of one night stands and fledgling relationships, however, some of the counterpoint might be from men that were in a committed relationship with a woman who pledged to raise a family with said man. In that case, men should have a say, as they are willingly providing seed to the egg under seemingly true pretenses.
If this is the case, there should be some way for the man to protect his future progeny, but there just is not today, so I understand the contempt.
Edit: grammatical error
[–]helpppppppppppp5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re not taking into account the misery and danger of carrying and birthing a child. If she wants a kid, it might be worth it. But the constant sickness of pregnancy, and the agony of birth, not to mention the permanent damage it will do to her body, and the fact that she could die in childbirth... all of that is an immense burden. And if she doesn’t even want the child, why would she go through that misery and trauma, when she could opt out before an actual human exists?
Your potential for future progeny doesn’t outweigh her right to protect her own health. Even if she promised to raise a family with you. If she breaks her word, divorce her and go your own way. Don’t force women to carry unwanted pregnancies.
[–]crshdurmomlstngt1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also agree. Good continuation of the discussion.
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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if it was rape, there is no right to kill the baby...
The baby did nothing wrong. Why should the woman decide to kill it? Why not someone else? Just because someone is the mom gives thst someone the right to kill a growing organism?
Now the rapist and a murderer have been born instead of a rapist and a baby.
[–]mani_tapori-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At what time do you think a fetus is viable?
A fetus has a heartbeat, s/he responds to stimulation. Why do you think it's not a living being, specially in 2nd/3rd trimster.
[–]SpinPlates28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
This sub is starting to go full right wing propaganda. I've seen two "#MAGA" comments today that were totally serious.
This is upsetting.
[–]ThanatopsisRex7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed.
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[–]SpinPlates4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mhmm.
The other day I mentioned how sad it is how women are treated under shariah law in the middle east and someone replied to me and said that women shouldn't drive, or vote, or own property etc etc.
90% of mgtow is level headed but you get these incel maniacs in here and that say stupid shit like that and the sub gets deleted.
[–]Belrick_NZ0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Karl marx was a cunt. Yes i get that other cunts happen to like him
No way marxism rose to prominence without the parallel rise of feminism.
Entitled cunts
[–]Belrick_NZ1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Capitism pushings nothing Marxist scum. Capitalism is liberty and free humans create and produce to fulfil needs wants and demands.
The entire feminist first wave occurred right when socialists rose to prominance.
Entitled demands for other ppls stuff. Resources. Is core female behavior.
No doubt you were educated by feminists
[–]DANYYC0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A couple months back I was reading an article from the Epoch Times that was an excellent criticism of the Marxist / Soviet attitude towards traditional family values.
It was called “The failed Soviet with free love.”
Check it out if you can find it on google. I’ll check this thread back when i’m off work. I have a great quality picture of the article which can be read that way IF you can’t find the article.
[–]churchchannel2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What's wrong with MAGA?.....
[–]CREEPY_CUP_OF_TEA0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It celebrates racism against cheetos
[–]SpinPlates-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When exactly was America greater than it is in 2018? Most people asked that question say the post world war 2 white picket fence family boom from about 1946-1960 (until hippies and Nam)
When we still had segregated schools?
When we were in the cold war using Nazi scientists to beat the Russians to space instead of putting them on trial for war crimes?
America has always been "great" for it's time but it's never been greater than it is now. The MAGA saying is rooted in white Christians faith and the 1950s nuclear family unit utopia and its total bullshit.
[+]Belrick_NZ-9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Shhh. Men actually care about other men having thir kids murdered
[–]SpinPlates8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Shut the fuck up. This isn't a place for you to push your political ideology.
Some men are trash humans that walk out on their kids AND the mother. Some of those kids shouldn't be born into a vicious cycle of inner city crime and violence. Sometimes an abortion is the right thing to do.
Why can't we just use this as a male spaces with MGTOW memes and keep the politics out of it.
[+]Belrick_NZ-13 points-12 points-11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Go fuck yourself sociopath.
Speaking of cunts who never should be born. Ever need a hand in aborting yourself ill be happy to rid the world of the likes of you
[–]prinzklaus5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/iamverybadass
[–]Faizan248391 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gosh you're embarrassing
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
mentoo
Just add 1 letter.
[–]5baserush14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is the dumbest thing I've seen all day.
[+]Belrick_NZ-7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Mirrors for you trump this
[–]5baserush4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is English your first language?
[+]Belrick_NZ-8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmmm? What's that ugly boy?
[–]superman114512 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (55 children) | Copy Link
Holes don't have the mental capacity to understand that just because something is inside your uterus doesn't make it a part of their body
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[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
I can name a right women have that men don't.
If I kill her fetus, it's murder. If she kills her fetus, it's abortion.
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[–]Demiacus2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That's not what he pointed out.
Morally and legally she's given free reign over a fetus without any sort of consequence, even encouraged to abort if she has the faintest doubt about the child while legally and morally if a man kills her fetus than we view it as abhorrent, repugnant, immoral act that should be punishable to the fullest extent.
In both instances it leads to the same outcome and in both instances it is premeditated
[–]Demiacus2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, no. You're trying hard to not justify this act with a hypothetical situation. I'm not talking in "what if's" scenarios. This is now.
She's an "incubator", free to shut off life support at any time and cheered for it, the other scenario is that of someone shutting off her "incubator" without her knowledge and view it as murder.
And you somehow view it as fair and equal. Yeah I don't. Sorry but feel free to dance around the issue as much as you like.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
I think the law is clear that the determining factor of whether a fetus is a human or not completely depends on whether the mom wants it or not, no matter how the father feels about it.
If the fetus really is just the same as hair or nails, as you suggest, then update the laws so I can kill a fetus and it's no different than cutting the woman's hair.
Why are you fighting so hard to make murder legal, anyway?
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Yikes. Mental gymnastics. Only women would fight for the right to murder, haha.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I think the law should reflect exactly what they think a fetus is, and not change the definition of fetus to benefit the mother in every scenario despite how it might affect everyone else involved.
Is a fetus just a bunch of cells, or is it a human?
If it's a bunch of cells, the why is it murder if I kill the fetus but not if she kills the fetus?
If it's human then why is it not illegal for her to abort it (kill it)?
Women don't want equality, because if they REALLY wanted equality, they'd define a fetus and correct the laws to reflect that definition, rather than have it just be "whatever is convenient for us at the moment." Either we can both kill the fetus (because it's a combination of both of our DNA) or neither of us can kill the fetus.
Personally, my belief is that it's a human. My main issue however lies in the inconsistency of whether or not it's a human, according to the law. Not whether I believe it's a human or not.
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[–]Belrick_NZ0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ow dick head.
A fetus has the full human genome and is self replicating life.
Science bitch. Says fetuses are humans.
Contraception prevents conception ie not full human genome or self replicating
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[–]Belrick_NZ1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
? Replication of cells occurs immediately. Each cell containing the human genome.
Also given that cells are the actual life and humans are best thought of as colonies of life.
Show some fucking empathy for humans in their most vulnerable part of their life cycle
[–]Brandwein0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
IS it really murder where you live? Since a fetus isn't a legal person, normally they can't be murdered, only killed.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you kill a fetus against the mother's wishes, it's murder.
[–]Brandwein1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, legally, yes? Where? US?
I think it should 'logically' be assault (grievous bodily harm) on the woman.
[–]cobaltcolander1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is scientifically incorrect. Apart from nutrients provided by the mother, the two bodies are completely separate.
[–]cobaltcolander2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes, completely separate - they have separate genome, separate organs which function separately. The umbelical cord provides nutrients and oxygen, but that doesn't make the mother and the fetus the same person.
When you are in a coma, temporarily induced or otherwise, the machines that keep you alive are not you. That's actually a poor example because the fetus is not in a coma but it is either asleep (most of the time) or awake. They have separate brain activity from the mother.
[–]cobaltcolander0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well of course "things pass in both directions" - the same as with the machinery that keeps a coma patient alive. I don't deny that a womb is more sophisticated that such machines, but not much more, and it definitely doesn't make the mother and the fetus the same person.
Another example that shows how fetuses' bodies are completely separate from the mothers' is the fact that you can fertilize an egg in-vitro and then implant it in a woman's womb - any woman's womb - and it will continue living there.
[–]superman1145-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
A fetus is a human being inside a woman's uterus. A separate human being. A fetus is not comparable to a heart or lungs or a liver, it's a person.
Also, assuming it is just part of your body, should it be legal for you to literally disect yourself and take out your organs?
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[–]superman11451 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, that should not be your choice, suicide is not legal. A fetus is a separate body with separate organs that is located inside the uterus. Is not a body part you tard.
[–]superman1145-4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't give a fuck about you tho
[–]ItsTeaForMe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Suicide isnt illegal, you dont get arrested for trying to/killing yourself. You are seen as a victim of mental illness, much like how starving yourself (anorexia) isnt illegal, you're just sick.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What the fuck? Why isn't it a separate human being? Are you saying it's a dead piece of flesh before its born?...
You people are insane.
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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It's a separate, DEPENDENT body.
I'm shocked. You just think there is some "magic" that makes the baby an individual all of a sudden.
Insane.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
LOL, so your point COMPLETELY invalidates your point. A FULLY dependent INDIVIDUAL cannot be murdered just because the mother desires so...MAYBE if the mother was DYING, it could be justified, but abortions are typically done for STUPID reasons. The child has every right to live, even if the mother doesn't want the child.
[–]internethjaelten-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You walking around with a stick up your ass doesn't make the stick a part of your body.
[–]Willinbc10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Powerful.
[–]BLZNWZRD6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm so confused.. I thought we didn't want kids?? Isnt it better that we have the full autonomy to move without the weight of children dragging us down?
[–]mp11122 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm confused about this one too. IMO no one is obligated to carry your kid to term if they don't want to. If the shoe were on the other foot I wouldn't want someone forcing me to eject a watermelon sized thing out of my penis just because we had unprotected sex. That's both peoples fault.
Now it'd be different if this was about her bringing the kid to term without the fathers consent and then forcing him to pay child support for the rest of its life. Fuck that, you made the decision to carry it to term, you are the one responsible for the rest of its life.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😐
[–]RancidRoger3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow...this has been on my mind off and on for years. As far as I know, I am not a victim. If i found out that someone I slept with got pregnant by me and aborted without telling me until after the fact...i would be devastated. Neither of my kids were planned but when I knew they existed, I immediately was "dad." To have that robbed from me is beyond messed up not too mention the obvious.
[–]alphafox8234 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this like a right wing board or something? Haven’t you guys ever listened to Tom Leykis talk about a hail mary?
Enough of the right wing bs.
[–]internethjaelten1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This place been hijacked.
[–]internethjaelten3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gtfo with this anti abortion bullshit. Just impregnate someone willing to carry it or up your pullout game.
[–]Siganid3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hah! Many of the women who shame men as being "more violent" have already murdered another human because it was an inconvenience.
[–]honda_vfr0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
have already murdered another human
60 million.
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/21/57762169-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/
[–]MGTOW-Balance1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
#YourBodyYourChoiceMyResponsibility
#MenToo
#AbortedBoysToo
#AbortedGirlsToo
#AbortedBabiesToo
[–]adamrockblackandblue1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make it happen, lads.
[–]krawm2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Call it "#minetoo"
[–]WollSmoth921 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Huge amount of anti abortion stuff on here at the moment - seems a little tough on the guys who haven’t been red pilled yet and impregnate a full blown ham beast, to take away any chance of that baby getting aborted means guaranteed child support to a ham child. Let’s not pull the ladder up after ourselves just because we know to be more careful.
[–]TheOnlyThing-Sufjan1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isn't this more of a MRA kind of point then a MGTOW point? I mean you can argue that men have almost no choice when they impregnated a woman, they either pay for the next 18 years or the woman aborts it. Allthough I would argue that it is the woman's choice to abort or not, I would also argue men deserve a choice aswell regarding wether they want the child or not. So if a man goes to court and argue that he does not want the child that he will not be responsible with regard to child support.
Then again I would argue that a unwanted pregnancy is such a easy thing to avoid that if you have one by your own fault your almost forced to accept the consequences, act responsibly and abbortions would not happen that much.
[–]MushroomMGTOW1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do people think this meme is bad are they just butt get about there own decision?
[–]RedHattedPhilomath-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
;(
[–]BlackBoxInquiry0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. Even though there is no equality in the equation....
[–]figyg1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. Because every equation can't have equality. But feminists are too stupid to realize this
[–]BlackBoxInquiry-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, well put.
[–]Crazed_Alchemist0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]idontevenlift371 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“You don’t get to decide because it’s not your body” -feminist logic
[–]BlaisePascal11230 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not how bodily autonomy works...
[–]WhackingPsychopomp0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine a world where a throng of MGTOW press into the courtroom of a fellow MGTOW's divorce proceedings, to be rowdy, to boo when something goes against the male in court, to harrass the ex wife, holding MGTOW signs, etc. She brings a lawyer, you bring a lawyer and 50 rowdy dudes. Yes, you'll get kicked out of the courtroom, however, that judge will think twice before handing out a harsh divorce settlement. Rinse and repeat.
We must begin to meet In Real Life. Come off of the boards and out into the streets.
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