Will any of you have children? As the population is in a steady decline.....

Ruby-xy · 2017-11-14T09:09:08+00:00

Men need to stop to cuck up and create artificial wombs, and get women out of the equation in reproduction. Only way to save the society.

RadicalAsceticMonk · 2017-11-14T11:52:08+00:00

>steady decline

>current world population estimate: 7.6 billion people

Bitch, during my lifetime alone, world population jumped from 5 billion to 7 billion. And it is supposed to reach 8 billion in 2026, and 9 billion within my life expectancy.

If anything, the speed of increase increased (second derivative for the rescute!) since 1987 - and only now it's expected to decrease (from 12 years to achieve the next milestone to 15 years). Which is a good thing - 12 years to reach 1 billion more people is fucking insane.

Give the planet a rest, will you?

DangZagnut · 2017-11-14T13:36:01+00:00

Nope. Children are another statistical waste like marriage.

THere's not populations decline, the world is vastly over populated. To steal a Bill Burr bit, at least 80% of people need to go.

The world historically did great after massive plagues wiped out millions of people. We just need a population "correction" even to help the world out.

TB409 · 2017-11-14T10:06:32+00:00

Children is for the poor. Enlightened people have better things to do. In 2017, no man should think about children. There is no rational reason. No it’s not biological. You can say “no” to it. A desire for family is social conditioning, nothing more, nothing less. Children ruin your life. Look at all the great Greeks. Almost none of them had children. Why do you think that is? And about keeping the species alive? There are always fools who knock some wymen up, don’t worry. Worry about yourself.

ajirarevan · 2017-11-14T09:55:16+00:00

No.

2017-11-14T13:55:40+00:00

Who cares?

Do you owe society anything? Going your own way is going your own way.

I won't have children because bringing a human into this world is condemning them to all the crap in this world. What if they were females? What if they were males?

All the issues both men and women face are so messed up.

Would you want your child to have to go MGTOW? Or for your daughter become a feminist or if not deal with the bad men out there who have bad intentions? Or your son to deal with toxic women?

DUDEEEEEEEEEEEEE

mrp_1844 · 2017-11-14T09:33:27+00:00

1) The population is not is a steady decline except for Japan.

2) You are assuming men will have no children. Sadly many men go Mgtow after children.

3) Immigration will make up for low birth rates. Immigrants have traditionally had many children. Most of us in USA are 3rd or 4th generation immigrants.

FirefallPony · 2017-11-14T12:57:18+00:00

No. Life is difficult enough as it is.

bjred78 · 2017-11-14T14:04:43+00:00

Only uneducated poor people breed. The less humans on the planet the better.

OP: No

Long_Range_Shooter · 2017-11-14T15:17:59+00:00

Find me a decent woman and I'd love to. The thing is I haven't found one single and available woman in the last twenty five years that isn't totally screwed up in the head.

strangerthing7 · 2017-11-14T12:08:04+00:00

I'm starting a vasectomy konga line! Cha Cha cha Cha CHA!

Hirudin · 2017-11-14T14:29:51+00:00

I'd want kids eventually if it wasn't for the fact that, for all intents and purposes, any kids you "have" aren't really yours. The only thing about your kids that truly belongs to you is your obligation to fork over money for them regardless of whether or not you get to see them or be a part of their lives in any way.

I'm not going to have kids, not because I don't want them, but because to have them and then lose them is something I don't think I'd survive.

Marriage failure rate is at 50% and children born out of wedlock are almost exclusively given to women with their fathers having no say whatsoever. So essentially if I had kids, it's a coin flip whether or not I end up suck-starting a shotgun a few years down the road.

Also, the kids could end up being assholes.

SomeGhostingGuy · 2017-11-14T15:41:06+00:00

Nope. In my lifetime my little country grew from 7 million to almost 9 million people in not even 30 years. And our politicians wonder why houses and rent are mental and why wages are stagnating. Also traffic is a mess as the whole infrastructure did not grew with the population. Not to mention that the growth comes from immigration with mostly people quite different from us ... which leads to even more friction.

Yeah .. the future is going to be great .. if you want your kids to live in 3rd world shitholes out elites are dedicated to turn the west into.

robowriter · 2017-11-14T15:43:21+00:00

Hell no.

TheOldEskimo · 2017-11-15T02:20:24+00:00

No, I'm not going to have children.

It comes down to an evaluation of life itself for me -- if there's too much pain, then birth is bad. If there's very little pain and a lot of pleasure, then birth is good.

I happen to think life is often more trouble than it's worth and falls into the former for a lot of people.

I'm against birth because it seems to me when taken as a whole, lives are often full of pain with little pleasure -- especially for men nowadays.

On a more personal note, I'm unhappy -- have been for years. Why should I expect any different for my children?

I've experienced loss, betrayal, and a lot of rejection over the years. I've been manipulated and tossed away like a piece of garbage by hypocrites more times than I can count. Eventually, it turned me cynical and bitter.

Looking back, there was a time when I didn't know what real hatred was.

I'm getting off topic, but all that to say I won't have kids because I don't want them to end up like me -- trudging through life miserable after having lost everything that mattered to them. I won't roll those dice for them.

To be honest, who gives a fuck if we die out? We'll be dead -- what'll we care then?

2017-11-14T17:45:25+00:00

I've thought about raising a child as a single father when I get to my late 30's/early 40's. It does seem like getting an egg donor and a surrogate mother is a huge hassle though and then there aren't enough legal protections for men that do this. Egg donors and surrogate mothers in the past have been successfully able to sue for rights to the child and subsequently child support. If that situation doesn't improve then I don't think I would want to deal with all that hassle when there is so much risk involved.

I have nearly 2 decades to decide though so, who knows.

Tyrone-Chaddingston · 2017-11-14T18:40:29+00:00

The western world is on the verge of collapse, few of us will live to see the outcome. I want as few liabilities as possible when shit hits the fan

nocivo · 2017-11-14T13:14:30+00:00

If I could do it alone maybe yes but unless you’re rich or have the grandparents helping hard to raise them or get a children you own and will not lose to the mother.

2017-11-14T16:48:48+00:00

I would like to have a little "me" if there wasn't so much bullshit attached to it.

I do not want my kid to be a divorced child. Growing up without his father. The world is beyond fucked up at this juncture. So much nonsense is happening.

If artificial wombs were a thing. Sure i would raise my own kids. But a female is capable of destroying a family. In so many ways that you could traumatize your children for life.

Like what if i have to pay 18 years straight? A stupendous amount of child support. For a kid that i'm not allowed to see or talk to. That shit frightens me.

wawakaka · 2017-11-14T17:09:52+00:00

I wanna transfer my self into a robot

2017-11-14T17:21:01+00:00

Not unless they change the laws back to pre 1950. And that doesn't look like it will ever happen. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait until Islam takes over.

CeleritySteam · 2017-11-14T17:39:57+00:00

Whenever anyone says "the population", they mean white people. Only whites and Japanese are declining, everyone else is increasing. Just FYI.

Given that this is the real question, my answer is that Western women are huge liabilities and so "saving" Western Civlization means self destructing off of huge liabilities and then not saving it anyways.

And even if you somehow find a unicorn, raise 3+ kids or have any relevance as a man whatsoever. Choose one. You do not have time for both and there is no middle ground since anything less than 3 is still a decline.

starBux_Barista · 2017-11-14T17:52:35+00:00

My generation says 1 in 4 will never get married..... They are mgtow and don't know it

eja_cool8 · 2017-11-14T18:35:03+00:00

If I could have a child through surrogacy I would. I think a red pilled child could be very successful in a blue pilled world if you're willing to be a bit machiavellian.

cdn_herbivore_man · 2017-11-14T18:39:16+00:00

Nope. imo having children is both selfish and irresponsible.

BreathGenie · 2017-11-14T23:23:50+00:00

I truly believe their are other planets with other biped human like species that are way more gracefull and advanced than us. Not only do I not want children, but I view creating children in this shit world to be seriously selfish. People who want children seem to lack empathy.

2017-11-15T00:25:15+00:00

No.

I don't care about the future at all, why would I have some skin in the game?

DarthCallidous · 2017-11-15T18:49:04+00:00

I've never wanted children. Ever since I was a teenager I didn't want any. Almost nine years later I discovered MGTOW, so they aren't related in any way.

Part of this was because of my neice and nephews. Don't get me wrong, I love them, but I lived with them for a couple of years, and I would rather not do it again.

Will any of you have children? As the population is in a steady decline.....

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Title	Will any of you have children? As the population is in a steady decline.....
Author	UnKnownSurviving
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Date	November 14, 2017 8:57 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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