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TL;DR If you want to achieve results beyond the basic TRP objectives, it makes sense to study and practice specific social interaction techniques so that you can easily accomplish multi-various nuanced objectives at will. Specific advice re use of suggestive language is discussed.

 

First an overview

TRP's mission is to increase men's sexual power and options.

 

The basic way is by giving men the red pill, AKA opening their eyes to the reality underlying sexual interactions: Dualistic mating strategy (alpha fucks, beta bucks), hypergamy of women, briffault's law, cock carousel, the wall, shit tests, etc...

 

The Red Pill perspective engenders certain imperatives: lift, read, meditate, dress well, be successful in your career and according to your own standards, become a true Alpha male exhibiting Alpha behaviors such as: good posture, loud clear voice, slow deliberate movement and speech, don't give a fuck, tease, spin plates, never marry, consider going monk mode, eliminate oneitis, take the pussy off the pedestal, etc...

 

The most common and basic objective here seems to be to have as much sex with as many hot women as possible. Which is fine and dandy.

 

 

Beyond The Basics

 

What if your objectives are not basic?

 

What if you want to experiment with an ltr or an mtr or an 'r' which is non-committed on either side or explicitly one-way committed (e.g., she's committed and you're not)? What if you want to have a flirt buddy or an orbiter of your own or someone who you sleep with on occasion? I'm going to discuss these last few objectives.

 

After coming out of a type of monk mode where I really just did not give a fuck about women and did not expose myself to their presence, I've recently taken up a job in a restaurant where I am surrounded by beautiful women.

 

As a natural flirt, I have had some fun back-and-forths with these ladies and have been the inspiration of many smiles and faux shock and outrage reactions. Little bits of playful body contact (kino if you will) happen naturally in this setting. I see my workplace as an area where I can gain interaction experience and practice social skills.

 

One thing has become clear - the basic set of TRP imperatives doesn't quite work in this context. You can't polarize too intensely because these are work colleagues and sexual harassment is a thing. Also, the goal here isn't to lay them, necessarily. It's to have fun, practice social skills, generate tingles, maybe get an orbiter, and go from there.

 

Here's where the conventional TRP advice fails me in this arena. Not giving a fuck is easy. Too easy. I generate sufficient interest from the two girls I work with who I'd like to pull into orbit. But when they show this interest, I really don't know how to escalate because I'm too busy not-caring that I am literally waiting for them to invite me out for drinks, invite me to their place, etc. Part 1 has been achieved with one of my 2 female workmates (she occasionally invites me out for drinks; and she pays for my drinks). But I realize, as I'm sure you do, that some level of proactive action is appropriate on my part. I ought to invite them out for drinks. I ought to bounce them to different locations, lead the interaction, take control, maneuver to bring lady 1 back to my place for sexy time. But this conflicts with the "don't care" sentiment and the my-situation-specific "don't polarize too intensely" imperative.

 

The only resolution to this paradox is if obtaining my complex objectives was easy and low risk. Then I could both not give a fuck and achieve some outcome beyond just having a little fun with flirting at work.

 

What I am talking about here are the social skills required to get what you want out of women through your interactions with them. It's all fine and great to be confident in your ability to lift, to program, to follow complex arguments, or to be "generally" confident and arrogant. But being confident in your ability with women should really rest on your academic and demonstrated understanding of how you can get women to do what you want. I'm talking in real, behavioristic terms above and beyond the basics of mindset and attitude. I'm also talking about taking the focus off of you for one minute and putting some focus on the females in question and on specific nuanced objectives.

 

What actual tricks do you have up your sleeve to push and pull women and get them dancing to your tune?

 

 

Specific Techniques

 

I'm only going to cover one such technique in this post and that is suggestive language. Yes, a "true alpha" will naturally use suggestive language. And yes, all tactics and techniques can be derived from the "true alpha" mindset plus lots of experience. Alas, some of us are lazy and want to maximize the utility of each interaction. From this vantage point, it makes sense to identify tactics and techniques and see how you can sharpen and utilize them.

 

Moving on. Suggestive language is dangerous because when it backfires the result is that you appear creepy. My own personal observation is that when you use suggestive language you need to use a mostly serious tone. The serious tone plus the outrageous language is what provides the comic stimulus - it causes an uncomfortableness in the female which will cause her to laugh in order to release the tension (this is assuming you played your cards right; if you push it too far, they might actually be offended and get legitimately upset with you and then talk shit to all your work colleagues and/or your manager; this is where it's important to know you're audience).

 

The 'trick' with use of suggestive language is to not laugh yourself, as you're spitting your game. If you laugh first or in fact at the same time as you are making an "inappropriate comment", you are showing that you are the one who is uncomfortable and you are the one that must release that tension by laughing - you are showing weakness and it comes off as creepiness - because you're talking about sexual things that make you feel uncomfortable. That actually is creepy. By pushing them to laugh first (and you can join in after, or at least give a wry smile), you are demonstrating that you have power over their internal state in a good way. You are showing that you are comfortable talking about sexy topics. You are showing that you can get her thinking about sex and also get her to relax and have fun with it.

 

Tonight I did both. I got some serious laughing blushes and I got obvious "that was creepy" eyes. And what I just covered is what differentiated the two.

 

"Don't laugh or smile too often" has been espoused here but it is too general to be actionable in my view. That's because I enjoy laughing. I enjoy having a good time when I'm hanging out with attractive women. The whole point of it, for me, is to have a good time. And if we can have a good time all the way to non-committal sex, then all the better. But I really don't care enough to be stoically serious and single-minded about achieving sex. Not worth it. I don't care about banging a chick who I can't have fun rapport with. Not worth it.

 

The defensive tone you may have picked up in this post is the result of many TRPers poo-pooing techniques and tactics and instead espousing cultivation of beliefs and attitudes (and wealth and physique) almost exclusively.

 

Fuck that. Techniques and tactics make things easier and I'm a lazy motherfucker.

 

Future techniques which I'd like to review involve correct escalation of physical contact, what PUA "fags" call kino. E.g., start with the back or shoulder areas because these are less vulnerable contact locations.

 

Re my personal goals. Skip this paragraph if you really don't care.

Also, a personal goal is to actually invite these girls out for drinks rather than waiting to be asked (with it's 50% success rate overall and lower than that on any particular night). I actually don't know how to do it in a smooth way. So much of my time is spent actively ignoring or "acting" disinterested in them that, I'm concerned that I will over-telegraph interest when I ask them out, followed shortly by a paucity of any good conversation or dialogue because I don't really care. I'll probably try what my one female friend has done with me, "I'm planning to go for a drink next door. You're welcome to come if you want." And I'll probably use open ended questions to keep the conversation going. I may actually have to involve myself in some interesting exploit so I personally have something to share in the conversation. Not sure if I can be bothered...

 

In any case, I hope the reader (you) can appreciate the nuanced approach that I am trying to take. I am not interested in polarizing. I am not interested in pumping and dumping. I am interested in having these women as actual friends before, during and after any sexual relations. I want to have fun while doing it and I don't want to try too hard.

 

More about what I want. Skip if you don't care.

I want the friendships to be real. I want to be disinterested and not giving a fuck and outcome independent in regards to the sex, but I don't want to be disinterested in them as people. Women, if you didn't know, are people and can provide valuable levels of companionship for men who have molded them to do so. Further clarifying friendship, I want us to both legitimately enjoy hanging out together. And I want to have sex with my female friends at least once or a couple times throughout my relationship with them because, well just because that seems like it would be fun.

 

All the PUA material deservedly gets a lot of bad rap because when it's done by try-hards it's really pathetic, globally offensive and self-damaging. However...

 

In Conclusion

 

...there is actually great value and utility in the breaking down of specific techniques. Our entire community would benefit if vets here were willing to discuss their techniques in a context far removed from the insecure mentality associated with PUA culture and which is at the same time willing to discuss specifics. That is all.