Women are turning tradcon to try to equate MGTOW to feminism in order to enslave men

papertrace99 · 2017-08-26T03:38:02+00:00

Isn't funny that women couldn't care less about MRA's and suddenly when MGTOW started growing these videos started popping up?

Anyways this girl is off base when it comes to MGTOW, not everyone that follows MGTOW philosophy got court raped. Tradcons really have no idea what's happening around the world or around them for that matter.

Paladin2903 · 2017-08-26T04:15:21+00:00

They see the gravy train slowing down, and are starting to take notice and worry. And, they should worry. Marriage rates have bottomed out. I don't have the exact statistics (and I'm too lazy to look right now), but I believe only 30% of Millennials are married.

Lurkers, if you ever want to know how being a tradcon turns out, just listen to damn near any country song ever made by a male (most of which are tradcons). It's about how his girl cheated, his girl left him, his girl fucked his best friend, his dog is his only friend, how lonely he now is, and how he wants her back, etc.

Gee, why is that? I thought tradcon women were supposed to be these faithful, religious, delicate flowers. Lol. They're all whores -- left, right, doesn't matter. Liberals are just more open (and in your face) about it.

HeForeverBleeds · 2017-08-26T03:46:32+00:00

Ironic that she compares feminism and MGTOW with each other, when feminism and tradcon are far more similar. Both say females are the innocent victims who need to be protected from predatory males, both say the struggles of males don't matter (e.g. male tears, men need to "men up" and put up with it), both are gynocentric (ladies first, help women and girls), both say men need to serve women (HeForShe, men provide for and protect women)

I used to be supportive of pretty much any anti-feminist, until more recently I realized that a lot of anti-feminists are tradcons, replacing one form of gynocentrism with another form of gynocentrism

kyledontcare · 2017-08-26T04:29:03+00:00

Stay single, stay free, and stay child free especially. Keep your sanity, peace, freedom, your video games, your free time, your physical health, and your savings and your career in the future all for yourself guys. Avoid women. Focus on work and career and promotions and saving your hard-earned lucre.

Cabshear · 2017-08-26T04:05:50+00:00

Haha, they'll never get us. We have won because we didn't fall into the trap. Now all we need is an artificial womb and egg to make them worthless.

kyledontcare · 2017-08-26T04:32:19+00:00

When women and society are serious they will change marriage and divorce laws. Until then, never cohabitate; never impregnate; and never marry.

2QuietDude · 2017-08-26T04:09:25+00:00

Bye Felicia

DonaldTrumpsWaifu · 2017-08-26T05:02:08+00:00

I didn't even watch a minute of the video and I could already tell she doesn't have anything remotely interesting or knowledgeable to say.

2017-08-26T08:47:04+00:00

What has society done for me lately?

n0vvv · 2017-08-26T07:01:50+00:00

First and usually last question to any tradcon girl: are you a virgin?

Xlasingx · 2017-08-26T03:27:38+00:00

the female chameleon..

Cabshear · 2017-08-26T08:15:31+00:00

You gentlemen will tire of my reasons eventually lol!

IMO, the core of these views that women keep leap-frogging back and forth (feminism waves, trad-con) from all share a common ideal, altruism. The core benefit for women in altruism is that someone will always be there to sacrrfice for them. Now, Ayn Rand would consider this hedonism, an expectation of sacrfice from others. Consider the irony of altruism's moral expectancy of sacrfice of others to its interest, while at the same time considering those unwilling to be "selfish." While hillariously paradoxical, it is alarmingly insane.

Consider the females of my past who expected I sacrfice and yield to mind games, word games, gaslighting, etc. When I didn't the tears came on and I was made to feel treacherous. This is the dangerous two faced approach of altrusitic behavior. Altruism by itself is manipulative, hence why it works so well in established faiths.

I mentioned Egoism in an earlier Mgtow post. Of course this is simply my view, and not trying to sound evangelistic.

I try to get behind the larger ideas. Cui Bono? Altruism is poisonous, it infects so much of social interests.

Altruism is the core of socialist/communist systems. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - Marx

It was inherent that complusory sacrfice be enforced via the government. Now it's enforced via shaming tactics, social ostrasizing, potential job loss, loss of children.

robowriter · 2017-08-26T09:55:56+00:00

Mgtow's a real threat as it takes their walking ATM away. Feminism and all this victim bullshit exists as a way to get money. Many become part of a larger political agenda poisoning them but don't know it, like these antifa clowns; like the abused masochists cutting on themselves with knives.

They don't give one meatflap about real victims either of slavery or oppression, for example those in the Oil Coast or North Africa. Or even about real rape victims in the US as they construct delusional narratives about verbal abuse.

ColdStoryBro · 2017-08-26T06:20:58+00:00

You cannot argue against ZFG.

JackHererFck · 2017-08-26T11:58:37+00:00

She's a cam girl. Are tradcons now taking advice from a sex worker?

2017-08-26T07:18:53+00:00

Okay, so she concedes that each side has at least some valid points. But then she explains her hard lines around "No one should be raped" and "No one should get hit".

NO ONE WAS ADVOCATING FOR RAPE OR VIOLENCE! Anyone in any of these movements/groups/etc. you see calling for such things are angry and delusional and not representative of the larger group.

Though now I feel like I'm tripping over the "not all Muslims are extremists/terrorists" thing.

EffinWhiteMale · 2017-08-26T07:14:04+00:00

Nice try tradcons, it's too late you wasted all your good years on the cock carousel hope you had a fun ride... tits or gtfo...

2017-08-26T08:40:09+00:00

Who cares - mgtow.

You're pandering to it and making it look that way anyway, by putting mgtow & feminism in the same sentence. Give it no attention. None of it

Solstus22 · 2017-08-26T08:54:05+00:00

To equate feminism with MGTOW is like equating Atheism to Theism. They're confusing MGTOW with MRA/MRMs just like confusing Atheists with Antitheists.

Feminism or Traditionalism is like the concept of good and evil seen in the perspective of a moral nihilist. They see it as nothing more than two sides of the same coin. Only different faces.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-08-26T06:14:10+00:00

Is she 12 years old? Too young to know what's up with the world.

jason1009 · 2017-08-26T14:10:47+00:00

I will never believe / trust this new wave of "tradcon" women until I see them in droves pushing for new legislation to change the family court system and divorce laws. Never go back men. Stay away from the plantation. Take the shame they throw at you as you live happy and free.

secant128 · 2017-08-26T16:15:03+00:00

No. MGTOW is just a reaction to both traditionalism and feminism. Feminism and traditionalism are two sides of the same coin they both aim to enslave men, and Mgtow is just the realization of that and decide not to play their game and be free instead.

Ruby-xy · 2017-08-26T19:38:46+00:00

Traditionalism is gynosentrism at the core. Originally traditionalism value female so high that they took away some of their freedom. Now women are still valued more than men, but they got their freedom. If men cant have the same freedom as women or be viewed as equal value men will go MGTOW.

People will only stay in a group as long as the value gained from being in that group is greater then GTOW.

2017-08-27T00:56:39+00:00

Tell me the last time you saw an MGTOW in public wearing a penis hat, pasties on his balls, and blue armpit hair screaming at women and shoving his dick in children’s faces.

2017-08-26T08:48:08+00:00

embrace them. ultimately all they're doing is helping introduce MGTOW, which is a good thing.

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2017-08-26T06:18:35+00:00

This video has jump cuts right?

androphilistic · 2017-08-26T12:42:53+00:00

Just imagine, throughout his working life every man will make, if not close to a million, at least $500,000 throughout the years, if not more. All that money not being spent on women and, with some proper investment planning, kept out of the government's hands too.

allowsnackbar · 2017-08-26T19:13:38+00:00

I think TFM said it best when he claimed that tradcon women are roleplaying. They put on an apron and bake a pie, but the very minute they can get a better deal through divorcing you / monkey-branching, they will not hesitate.

NoThirst · 2017-08-27T01:08:14+00:00

....what the hell is she? A little girl in her little pink bedroom commenting about MGTOW? Who the hell cares what she thinks?

2017-08-27T01:09:01+00:00

feminism says "me me me me me me me, i need handouts, i need reparations, i need special treatment, i need wealth redistribution to me, because of my vagina!"

mgtow says "leave me the fuck alone."

there is no male equivalent of feminism.

2017-08-26T12:35:07+00:00

why are they so ugly. I don't want to mean and I don't judge people for their looking but... She is so ugly no wonder why she is feminist. there is no beautiful girl in this feminism movement... ( just wan to say. I don't care if I found found beauty, I like my wallet when it's full )

LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue · 2017-08-26T13:08:53+00:00

Well then, I am a feminist!

hollybegin · 2017-08-26T13:46:45+00:00

If this is her own room, she's retarded and I don't want to deal with her. If it's her crotch-spawn's, she's damaged good and I don't want to deal with her. Now she can call me all the names of the book, I don't care...

poloppoyop · 2017-08-27T13:50:43+00:00

MGTOW are feminists.

We consider women capable of holding a job and managing their own life. We recognize they can be a danger to men, like men can be a danger for women: that's why we decide to not mingle. The institution of marriage is patriarcal so as a sign of our adherence to feminism we refuse it. We also refuse to treat women better than men just because they're women: they are perfectly capable to open doors, pay for their meal or repay their student loans.

We don't catcall or lust for women in the street. We prefer porn and prostitutes who chose to rightfully gain money from their talents. Soon some of us we also turn to sex bots then even staunch feminists won't have to use the sexploitation card anymore.

A lot of MGTOW people decided to not work more than they need making more jobs available to women.

Feminists. Maybe not in what we write but as people can usually read in here: judge not what they say but what they do. And MGTOW acts are more feminists than a lot of other self professed feminists.

Title	Women are turning tradcon to try to equate MGTOW to feminism in order to enslave men
Author	qazescr
Upvotes	219
Comments	115
Date	August 26, 2017 3:12 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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