My problem with mgtow

NameOfAction · 2017-08-10T17:18:16+00:00

6 weeks since my divorce.

Lost ten pounds Savings steadily growing Haven't smoked or drank in two weeks

It's not much but it's a start.

jkarovskaya · 2017-08-10T18:05:07+00:00

I've been MGTOW 30+ dedicated years.

After divorce in 1981 I was broke, literally homeless, and life was damn hard.

I went MGTOW rejected dating, and had a simple dream of raising my sons and having happiness.

I busted my ass and did not date/LTR at all, and built a home in 5 years, and paid it off in 10. Bought more land for investment and firewood.

Went back to school for computer science.

Got a new job, worked my way up to IT Director by 2000, and network admin.

Put kids through college.

Almost succumbed to marriage in 2001, but broke the engagement because 2 years into the LTR I realized it was a failure, and no future.

MGTOW saved me again, and fast forward.

Today I have zero debt, significant wealth, stocks, funds, trusts, and doing very well.

Now have a bigger house,40 acres of land 2 workshops, 3 vehicles, getting near retirement, my sons are in late 30's.

I have 3 avocations that I do regularly some of which make me money.

MOst of all I have total freedom, liberty, can do anything I want, travel, visit friends, and enjoy my peace and quiet too

Only thing remaining is another house in warmer climate for long term retirement, am working on that now.

Had I gotten into LTR or marriage, compromises and obligations were likely to kill my dreams and force me into a thousand things I don't want to do

MGTOW has given me life, liberty, happiness, and incredible sense of independence and well being because I DON'T HAVE TO FEAR DIVORCE, ABANDONMENT, AND THE STATE ROBBING ME

The_Law_of_the_Land · 2017-08-10T16:54:23+00:00

1) Well, the first thing I did was get out of an engagement to a sociopath. This in itself was probably the greatest feat.

2) I've since bought hundreds of acres of land (best investment ever). I actually plan on doing some tree farming, mushroom growing, and possibly Maryjane as soon as the laws shift in my favor.

3) I own 2 homes, 7 cars, a boat, and a Harley.

4) I'll have enough saved in assets and actual wealth to retire when I'm 50. Although, I could probably leave the corporate world at 45 and work my land for alternative resources.

5) I travel everywhere (and yes I still like to pick up women). It's such a great life style when you don't have to worry about helping a parasite.

MaraxHooves · 2017-08-10T18:15:25+00:00

Went MGTOW 4 years ago after getting my heart broken and overdosing on red pills:

40% increase in income, 100% increase in savings, recorded an album, huge improvement in happiness, was able to take 5 months off work. MGTOW lifted me up on its wings and is taking me places I haven't been before; it is truly the fucking path.

Also, it's been brought to my attention that I dodged more bullets than Neo.

Dank_Meems · 2017-08-10T17:56:20+00:00

more than doubled my salary, moved to the beach in florida, bought a condo that I'm remodeling and will sell for double what I paid for it. I'm in the best shape of my life and I'm having the most fun I've ever had. Seems like MGTOW is working out for me. OH, this series of events started 3 months after breaking up with my GF of almost 4 years. Coincidence?

falselyaccusedguy234 · 2017-08-10T18:48:15+00:00

Dropped 50 pounds. 37, look like I'm 25.

Currently currency trading, looking like I will be able to retire in 3 years at most. I will still keep working, but only because I want to.

Feel great every single day.

...what else is there?

BooDoug · 2017-08-10T19:32:25+00:00

what is successful? being rich and popular? being a president? win a sporting event? got your mugshot on the news?

If you want to improve youself, get rid of all the BULLSHITS!

MGTOW = PEACE in your heart.

r/MgtowBooks

mrscene1 · 2017-08-10T17:29:42+00:00

Well I have a healthy salary, a nice Mercedes, just bought a new motorbike, a collection of guitars, a condo downtown, do whatever the hell I want.. and I can honestly attribute it all to staying single my whole life. Cheers :)

2fingerbandit · 2017-08-10T18:01:47+00:00

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TB409 · 2017-08-10T20:13:37+00:00

Got rid of a lot of my attached possessions.

Eating healthier, working less, feeling healthier.

I spend more time chasing a positive human experience rather than chasing checks to impress some bitch.

I feel more spiritually connected to Earth. That to me is success.

rtmlex · 2017-08-10T18:14:20+00:00

Hey cool stuff. Except...

I am a man going my own way. Mine. Not yours. You want to start a bank, sure. I don't have to. I don't want to take over society. Has zero value to me. I don't want to change/save society. It treats me like garbage and it's therefore not worth my time. I don't want to be productive for anyone but myself and only as much as I deem necessary.

RadicalAsceticMonk · 2017-08-10T20:25:04+00:00

But... the problem I have with it is I never see anyone becoming productive and successful

"Productive" and "successful" according to who? You sound like those people writing articles about how young men optiong out of society is terrible because they are not producing enough. Yeah, because producing is all what's life is about. Consumerism is the only way possible someone can be happy. MGTOW is, in my opinion, a path for personal realization and personal happiness, and it seems like working like a damn mule is universally seen by men as not the way to realization and happiness. What a noveau concept! But if you think you can only be happy sitting on wads of cash and, as you put out, "own a bank", hey, it's your own way, man.

which leads me to believe there's more biologically inclined "blue pill" men then red pill.

This pill bullshit... as long as you're not slaving away for the benefit of some chick who'll betray and rob you blind (and is there any other kind of chick?), I don't see a problem. Being a pushover, always-to-the-top kind of men is stressful, and I'd rather not stress myself with that. Because I don't need to project an image of success and wealth to be happy. In fact, that would end up attracting vapid chicks who'd want to rob me blind, so as long as I'm a pretty average guy doing pretty average stuff, I'm invisible to them. No problem, no drama, no stress.

List the ways you've improved yourself and your life Since the red pill moment.

I have a sense of personal freedom most men don't. As I value freedom above everything else, that's my measure of success. I do my own stuff and don't have to attend to the whims of women nor kids; what else should I want from life?

silive · 2017-08-10T17:19:18+00:00

"Blue pill" is a lie whether we're inclined to be one or not. We are also "inclined" to be religious which is another lie. So basically it's a philosophical question: What do you prefer: a. To base your life on a lie which can be beneficial to you or b. To swallow a bitter pill and take your chances. Each of us have to make this choice and I know I made the right one because my emotional, mental and fiscal situations are better than any time during my blue-pill stage. There is no major uncertainties, deceptions and the rest of the nonsense which I'm supposed to take on faith. Screw that! P.S. Re-watch the Matrix.

2fingerbandit · 2017-08-10T18:17:39+00:00

Nice!

ashaw7 · 2017-08-11T03:52:58+00:00

Regarding a MGTOW bank: https://youtu.be/U7rXOgL4oFQ

And yes, there are some financial advantages to being a blue-pill man. It's basically a socially imposed bachelor tax. Married people generally do better financially than unmarried, provided they don't get divorced, and there are a bunch of tax deductions for children and family related things. If you're going to be a MGTOW, you need to be extra motivated and responsible with money.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2017-08-11T10:49:15+00:00

What the hell. THe internet is not for ourselves to expose ourselves, but I'm 100% sure you will find a high % of succesfull men in here

Life_advice_me · 2017-08-11T20:02:41+00:00

Too many to list but my colleagues notice and comment on how far I have come in the last 2/3 years without knowing why I've changed.

Title	My problem with mgtow
Author	2fingerbandit
Upvotes	6
Comments	36
Date	August 10, 2017 4:45 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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