why is r/incel wrong?

dmgll · 2017-07-01T21:11:29+00:00

There is nothing wrong with incels, they are just stuck in the rage phase and cannot escape because they still think sex is the only thing that matters and that true love exists. Love doesn't exist and sex is overrated

Rhodesius · 2017-07-01T22:00:01+00:00

Their victim mentality, the pedestalization of women and relationships. Plus 'incel' is just a myth. Anyone can achieve sex either by paying for it or by lowering their standards. Someone who calls themself incel wants to be a victim.

goadsaid · 2017-07-01T21:18:12+00:00

Incel conclusions about women are for the most part correct. Yeah, you're right. Now what are you going to do about it?

The reaction to those conclusions, as far as what to do about the realities, I think are wrong.

Slaide · 2017-07-01T21:27:28+00:00

The problem with incels is that they believe that sex is still worth the risk and would thus seek a woman if they could. We don't.

DangZagnut · 2017-07-02T00:12:30+00:00

They're just ragers. Angry that they can't get the pussy, so it's a love hate thing. Instead of walking away from the shit and being happy, they're still upset they can't have pussy, so they compile statistics and complain about it.

Like so what? Even if you could get pussy, shouldn't all those statistics show you that you're selling yourself out for a shit-cake with buttercream frosting that will destroy you in the end?

It's better to just walk away from shit if it's frustrating you.

geocitiesuser · 2017-07-02T02:26:26+00:00

I have no hate for incels or foreveraloners. Not everyone gets the privilege of being born attractive. Even though I got laid a lot and was even married at one point when I was younger, I consider myself incel now. The women available to me are 300 lbs, have tons of kids, and have the audacity to be self entitled and outwardly act like I'm an eye soar to them. I am the stereotypical nice guy who has all his shit together from money to height to fitness but fails in the looks department. It's not worth it. Fuck that. I'm not going near a ham planet.

On the flip side I have a bit of detest for people who try to make fun of the incels and forever aloners. The people who do, don't understand what pain and suffering is. There is a reason solitary confinement is considered a form of torture.

I might be somewhere in the middle. I still function socially but I'll be damned if there isn't a pit of flame in my guts that wants to watch the world burn the same way as the incels and foreveraloners do for many of the same reasons.

Foreveralone/incel and mgtow are closely related. mgtow just convinces that we do it by choice, but I promise there's lots of guys here are incel and don't even know it. The dating game has shifted dramatically in the last decade. I'm old now, I promise you, 15 years ago it was nothing like this. Women still had a mediocre of dignity/respect/manners.

Rhodesius · 2017-07-01T23:11:59+00:00

Well, for starters they're wrong about themselves at the fundamental level:

They're not in fact "involuntarily" celibate; they are VOLUNTARILY celibate via either: A) having standards that are too high, B) being unwilling to get off their lazy/fat asses, and/or C) being obsessed with women that are pragmatically* "unattainable" to them (certainly as women they would "lose their virginity" to).

* This is akin to someone believing that they are "involuntarily" never going to be an astronaut ... when they refuse to learn to fly or apply themselves in any way to attaining the goal (or indeed, even leave the house) -- they're correct about the end result (or lack of it), but incorrect about the cause.

RogerBateman · 2017-07-01T21:21:44+00:00

Life ain't fair. Genitics, life, etc. I hope they can find peace.

Their problem is they are Blue pill, because they care.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-07-01T21:29:13+00:00

Being deprived of any form of romantic/sexual contact IS horrible. We are still fleshbags with instinctual needs. And of course, they are spot-on about women's nature.

No_Cute_Pseudonym · 2017-07-02T03:03:54+00:00

Incel: "I'm a great guy with so much to offer! Why don't they pay me any attention?"

MGTOW: "I'm an animal, you're an animal. I'm just honest about it. You should eat some of that makeup and have a chance at being pretty on the inside."

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2017-07-01T21:30:16+00:00

I've known 5'5" dudes who got laid, and 400 lbs. greasy janitors who got laid. They were hilarious and had a great attitude.

But for most incels, they'd be shocked at how useless relationships with women are.

KV-n · 2017-07-02T04:06:21+00:00

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Jcart105 · 2017-07-02T09:57:58+00:00

To me, it seems like incels were men who had rather sheltered upbringings and had to witness the true nature of women at firsthand directly. They are in the rage phase and still greatly overvalue sex and female validation. They believe in a form of love they were deluded into believing in through their upbringing, and they are at a loss for answers resulting in their rage as to why anyone would blatantly lie about this.

Varyyn · 2017-07-01T23:50:46+00:00

Because the next line that comes out of their mouth is how they are subhuman, LDAR, etc because they can't get laid/ a relationship (or more accurately wont because they refuse to get treatment for severe depression in most cases). They literally think life isnt worth living without a relationship.

Sorensofos · 2017-07-02T01:28:33+00:00

They are not.

mikek44224 · 2017-07-02T02:16:48+00:00

They draw the right conclusions, but they respond wrongly. Instead of figuring out how to achieve self-actualization, they just piss and moan.

pilledwillingly · 2017-07-02T02:41:57+00:00

Incel is 'involuntary celibate.' Involuntary being key.

thewatisit · 2017-07-02T03:52:38+00:00

MGTOW is to not give women any resources at all. Incels are those who want to but failed.

Dickwraith93 · 2017-07-02T04:01:40+00:00

They are self-destructive dudes who have a victim complex.

gahj · 2017-07-02T11:13:23+00:00

The difference is mgtow understands women and isn't interested, incel appears to have a similar disposition but believe they're worth suffering for.

Everyone should be encouraged to learn from experience rather than strangers anecdotes.

why is r/incel wrong?

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Title	why is r/incel wrong?
Author	General_Surgicus
Upvotes	27
Comments	87
Date	July 1, 2017 9:09 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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