Extreme Circumstances

NightwingTRP · 2016-05-12T16:20:36+00:00

Let me explain, TRP is apolitical and amoral for good reason: if we want to understand what's really going on in interactions and understand the social dynamics of attraction and relationships, we need to look at it objectively. We try to see past things in order to see the reality beneath.

Political ideologies and morality are intangible man made constructs that you apply to reality. They do not make up reality, but they can indirectly influence reality. To understand reality, we must strip these things away. This is why, when political topics come up, we have to tread a reasonably fine line to avoid allowing political ideology to creep in ahead of objectivity. It is the same reason we demand moralising of actions be left at the door.

Note that while we demand this on the sub, we're happy for you to hold whatever political views you like outside of the sub. Same goes for morality. I actually encourage people to have some moral standard or code that they adhere to. I don't care specifically what it is, but I'm a believer that the act of rationalising right or wrong of your behaviour according to your circumstances is a very feminine trait. The masculine equivalent is to decide how you will conduct yourself and then stick to it. Men are like rocks but women are merely water, their actions swayed by their feels.

That's a little by the by, but it's relevant to the point I'm building to. The reality is that as TRP grows, it becomes a more prominent subculture. Specifically a part of the counter-culture. Both the sub and the leaders have no control over this if they wish the sub to grow and more men to be able to become men through the help and advice the sub provides. Once we reach a critical mass, whether the members of TRP or the ECs or the Mods like it or not... we become a part of the current culture war.

Cultural changes have impacts upon the success levels of political ideologies. It's why socialism became flavour of the month for a number of years and then things swing back to conservativism and then liberalism and so on and so forth. Essentially, as TRP grows, we will have an indirect political impact whether we like it or not.

Now, look at the way the sub is led and moderated. There's a strong belief in keeping things on-topic and a careful hand preventing blue pill ideas from starting to infiltrate the sub. As things change, the sub adapts. New rules are put in place. New methods of enforcement are used. Additional flairs are added. A new off-reddit site is created as a backup. These are guys who adapt and solve problems as they present themselves.

Now, my third and final basis. The current political movement for change in this regard: MRAs. Basically the MRA badge is poison. I have nothing against them all personally. I am of the opinion that I don't care about them. I agree with GLO's assessment that they'll never achieve anything because they're not attractive enough. The reality is, half the electorate is women and women follow their fee-fees everywhere (including self-destruction.) They'll literally just vote for pretty men for being pretty and they'll vote against unattractive men because they're unattractive. Obviously there'll be specific exceptions, but for the most part the typical airheaded woman will follow what I've suggested. So the MRA movement is basically doomed from the outset. The only time they get support is when they phrase things well enough to do with equality that people want to virtue signal, so they'll side with them. But the MRAs are very bad at doing this. Their argumental style is too logic-based and not emotive enough. (They lack 1-2 parts of the perfect argument.)

Put all of this together and you have a situation where TRP will eventually adapt, get involved in the culture war, then have political influence. However it will be on TRP terms. We're not likely to go searching for it or team up with the MRAs... but if our cultural influence continues to grow, we'll get it whether we want it or not. Once that happens (or maybe before), we'll adapt as needed. For now though, we're staying neutral.

__ROOSTER__ · 2016-05-12T06:37:40+00:00

Read The Way of Men, build yourself, build your gang; tribe will follow.

WhiteTrashKiller · 2016-05-12T08:09:22+00:00

Why so upset? You were neither the cause of it nor a contributor to the demise. If you are a part of the select group of men able to use the knowledge found within these walls your life will be enjoyable. You can maintain relationships, they just won't be the fairytales you were told about. Accepy it, it is the norm now.....

CinnaMagister · 2016-05-12T12:20:00+00:00

TL;DR

we need to fucking do something

So fucking do something.

hailhailhailandkill · 2016-05-12T15:11:30+00:00

Not everyone can get to this point. A man gotta have it within.

Don't waste time with lost cause types, improve yourself and your life's quality.

Not each male is a comrade.

NietzscheExplosion · 2016-05-12T16:08:42+00:00

I think the best thing is quiet nonviolent civil disobedience

I can hear you know... WTF Nietz, you advocate GHANDI???

Yup, without the loud mouth shit...so even MORE PASSIVE.

And it's simple. Don't get married. Be extremely picky about having kids (surrogate, rich mom, etc - I will post on this). Avoid any and all entanglements with feminists. Avoid owning land and putting money where government can tax it. Invest in things and ideas that are gainers not losers (I.E elon musk and never a non-profit).

Edit: oh yea very important - DONT VOTE. That supports the various systems that we want to fail.

fuk em

dbtlsdn999 · 2016-05-12T16:09:10+00:00

The whole message of TRP is that it's too late. I'm not saying this to shun you down but I'm saying this because it's the harsh truth. There's honor in fighting for something you believe in but in reality it's better to take advantage of what you're given to the fullest. We've lost, and that's the truth. Society points anything that talks about men as misogyny. So go out and be the best you can in this society.

Caucasian-African · 2016-05-13T23:15:26+00:00

I straight up tell people that there is now way I'd enter into a situation that gives some arbitrary douchebag judge, likely with a God complex, over me. Both marriage and having a child with a woman does just that.

I tell people, if you want more men to start families, start by changing the laws.

The__Tren__Train · 2016-05-12T06:23:41+00:00

It's already over. The war has been lost. The only thing that men can do is enjoy themselves and their friends..

I am seeing so many single women in their 30s, 40s, and even 50s... It's unbelievable. Men can survive on their own, and with the love of their brothers.

Women can't survive on their own, and they hate each other.

If you play the game, you lose. If you don't play the game, they lose. It's tragic that it has come to this.. But that's just how it goes sometimes.

Society tempted woman with all the pleasures of youth, and all the riches of divorce, and they gladly took it... Just like Eve in the garden.

The only thing we as men can do... Is get shredded and tan.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-05-12T13:08:08+00:00

Why would I want to white knight for a bunch of people who don't get it and refuse to change? What do I get out of it?

[deleted] · 2016-05-12T09:48:05+00:00

God i'm sick of you "good ol' days" conservative whiney kids.

If you want to live an all goodie straightedge lifestyle with a wife and kids, thats your job. Dont get so butthurt about society not sharing the same mindset as you. if you want to change society dont try to shame it, as far as we all know theres no right or wrong.

Just like the ones in power That used their power to change society, why dont you become a man of power your self and change shit the way you see fit, make an example, impress us,instead of just crying and wanting society to validate your view points.

Fuckoutta here

__ROOSTER__ · 2016-05-12T18:19:37+00:00

All of us have a very limited there of control. We waste immense time worrying about things far beyond human scale and beyond "fixing"

Fix yourself. In doing so you fix your world, and if you do it right you can get the chick(s) you want and have the relationship you want to include children.

This sub is super anti-marriage and anti children, and in many ways for good reason; but IF a man can learn to be the 90-99% in life, wife and kids work out just fine. If you're just playing the odds, the odds are much farther against you in most aspects of life than they are for wife and kids.

I_Need_More_Space_ · 2016-05-20T18:46:13+00:00

Why become fixated on the women of the USA? There are plenty of women all over the world that would be much better life partners if that's what your looking for.

Personally, I have a plan to travel S. America from Peru to Chile to Argentina to Brazil to Venezuela. I'm sure I'll have great fun backpacking.

But, its also a recon mission in case I ever find myself at 40 and wanting a family (99.9 % I don't want that, but I'm only 31). I want to test the waters with the women there. And if I like what I see and feel, I'll keep traveling the countries I'm most interested in to try to find a qualifying female to breed with. Laws of one country don't cross international lines.

Marriage Plan: I would still work in the U.S., then go back to my "family" in S. America for 6 months at a time with a stack of cash, bang my sweet ass Argentinan, Venezuelan, or Brazilian wife. Of course hang with the kids, and enjoy life. Whatever. Then repeat. (Men left for long hunting trips often before modern society)

If she cheats on me, I cut her off financially. Heck, you're not even married, so no big whoop. Oh, and every child would require a paternity test.

It's a pretty simple plan. Forget the contract of marriage with American women. Be upfront with the woman in another country. She could verify my income to prove I can provide before knocking her up. Whatever. But, all children are tested for my paternity. And she accepts her role of a "wife" with enthusiasm.

Happily ever after.

The women of today in the US are not going to change. They just need to be left out of the breeding pool to stop their venom from passing onto the next generation. And marriage laws will only change when marriage rates plummet, and there is a mass exodus of money leaving the country to father better behaved families abroad. And that would fix our culture too. Our culture is run by modern fems and it's sooo lame. We have the worst culture in the world it feels like.

Anyhow. This plan takes a willingness to become viable in monetary means (check), a willingness to keep it in your pants with the child support slave masters walking the streets (check), and a willingness for adventure (check).

It ain't for everybody. LOL. Sometimes I think I have a few screws loose, but I know that in reality I see things pretty damn clear.

Title	Extreme Circumstances
Author	fukushima1whois2
Upvotes	0
Comments	18
Date	May 12, 2016 6:03 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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