How things got this way.

2017-04-18T10:26:33+00:00

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TFCNU · 2017-04-18T13:22:55+00:00

Every time I read one of these crazy ramblings, I imagine my life if Jews like me actually had this sort of power. I can never wrap my head around the idea that we simultaneously control society but also want to destroy it. If we control the world, why change it?

Stalin was an Orthodox Christian by birth. Even attended a seminary. Blaming the Jews for his crimes is absurd.

You blame Jews for Muslim immigration in Europe but ignore the fact that Jewish groups from France to Sweden are firmly anti-immigration. Marine Le Pen has been openly courting the Jewish vote for a reason. Radical Muslims hate us more than they hate Christians.

You want to know why Jews disproportionately succeed? Same reason Chinese people do. We come from cultures that place a high value on learning and education. Jewish and Chinese kids don't choose to go to university. We are expected to. Relatedly, I'm surprised you didn't find a way to blame us for Mao, the Viet Cong and the Khmer Rouge. There are only two governments in the world run by Jews: Netanyahu's government in Israel and Jared and Ivanka's new government in the US.

mahoganyneck · 2017-04-18T16:10:48+00:00

Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew

<Sarcasm> All this time the establishment told me that there's a conspiracy by White Males to keep everyone else down. Now I see that it's actually the Jewish White Males that are conspiring to keep everyone else down and the non-Jew White Males are actually good. </sarcasm>

Be a good man; the best you can be. Improve your fitness, build your knowledge, strengthen your body. Explore spirituality, whether that be your own personal relationship with existence, or the teachings that your ancestors held dear for generations. So long as you do something, and do it constructively. Wherever possible, work together. Our enemy’s greatest strength is that they seek to divide and conquer. To isolate and disenfranchise.

How do you feel about working with Blacks, Indian-subcontinentals, and people born to Muslim and Jewish families who genuinely reject their cultures and adopt Western ideas? Just asking because many posts you've put out indicate you find these people are inferior (and thereby not worth your time). Now you're wanting people to unite? Or do you just want to unite White males?

huckleberryferry · 2017-04-20T02:15:03+00:00

I had some nameless feeling (which of course was based on critical observations and thought reasonings) that something was amiss, that something was happening—something so subtle and insidious that the majority of the global population were just to dumbed down and too (mentally and sexually) weakened to even think to notice. I enjoy it that OP—who I have NO reason at all to doubt is very wise and mentally acute—has just pulled a little bit of the covering: this goes to show that I was not crazy at all to have arrived at similar but not so specific-like-OP's findings.

I knew all along there were conscious, malevolent minds at work behind the scenes, tirelessly corrupting the minds of the masses through the media, politics, entertainment industries (TV, Hollywood movies, music, etc.), porn industries, sports, fashion, finance, even religion, education, and pretty much every area that fosters social cohesion.

I knew feminism, as a movement, was a deliberate design—purposely and ingeniously crafted to propagate and facilitate some covert agenda; to unleash the suppressed, hedonistic nature of women, and to turn and use them against men.

I knew men were the main "obstacles" and therefore have to be dealt with. In the classical, biblical event when man fell from grace (I'll start a thread later on about this), take note that the devil used the WOMAN to bring down the man, Adam—what does this imply? That in any attempt to incite some action, movement,...men are the hardest rocks to crack, and women—due to their weak and more materialistic nature are the weak links; however, the man's MAIN weakness is his natural affection, love and desire for the woman which makes it easier to use the woman to hunt the man down. Woman are naturally weak and dependent on the man—for her, she needs the guidance, protection and rulership of the man to thrive successfully (a truth which feminism has blackened to be of a sexist and misogynistic method of thinking) else she easily gets swayed and drifted by any flux thought, movement, whatever. Think about this: have women at all ever sat down to do a retroactive, critical analysis on the origins of feminism, how it has perverted them and the family system, the purpose and grand idea behind it, except to jump on its train resounding promises of free indulgences in debaucheries appealing to their nature, usurping powers with men, attaining absolute freedom in anything (speech, movement, career choices, education, etc.), opportunity to "avenge" their past streams of "slavery and oppression", etc.

I read an article yesterday about the porn industries, and honestly I was simultaneously shocked and unsurprised. I was shocked because (((they))) were overwhelmingly in control of nearly all the biggest, multi-billion dollar porn industries; and also the fact that some renowned members of (((them))) were blatantly vocalizing their intent to use porn to subjugate all existent culture and people, to destroy and pervert the moral values of Christians (whom (((they))) hate because they think: "Christ sucks"), to manipulate and control all the people who would by then be satisfied in their slavery, etc. I was unsurprised because I reasoned a priori that it will be something of this nature though wasn't sure who will be behind it and also didn't expect such remorseless level of blatancy. They intend to radically destroy the Western culture of Christian values and morality. This they plan to do by (as OP rightly explained) inundating the Western world with other races (BTW, I'm African and black, just being objective and truthful, not wanting to be biased) to encourage crossbreeding to the point when there will be no racial differences anymore (except of course by obvious thought of reason, their race, which will still persist) and (((they))), as the "superior" race, will get the chance now to dominate and subjugate ALL! (((They))) intend to sell sex through porn, by making it readily available and easily accessible anywhere—you know why? Because sex is the MOST powerful weapon which can be used to weaken and control men. By turning men into thoughtless zombies incapable of critical thought, spirituality, strength and courage, etc. making them wholly empty, materialistic, and hedonism-driven, (((they))) easily get to achieve their ultimate goal: totalitarian rulership and domination. (((They've))) specifically targeted the fields and areas OP mentioned because they are the MAIN environments of power; reason of which they've monopolized those areas to quicken and facilitate their agenda.

It saddens me that EVEN some MGTOW brothers have fallen prey to their schemes by advocating and pursuing hedonistic style of living (which is one of the very poisonous, philosophic teachings—which I'm sure was encouraged by (((them)))—to weaken the minds and moral values of men turning them into material, mindless living-dead of creatures). I see posts here almost daily talking about frequenting sex workers and using porn, fleshlight, etc. as escapist routes from women and society. The sheer worship of sex robots also really saddens me. I know I have no right to tell anyone how to live their life, but the line "do the f***k what you want/ live your life how want" is the worst kind of thought decision any man can apply to live with. Life is to be lived with spiritual meaning and purpose (just my humble opinion though).

Matexqt · 2017-04-19T17:43:18+00:00

Rare to read good posts like this, watch for all the people dismissing it because of feelings and not reading it all.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-04-18T22:15:53+00:00

TLDR, another alt-right tradcon crypto blue pill shill

Coluphid · 2017-04-18T19:36:51+00:00

Best thing to do is nothing. Everything is a scam and a deception. All roads lead to more roads and distractions. Only place you can find truth and freedom is inside of yourself. No one has your best interests in mind except the true you inside.

Asbestasio · 2017-04-20T00:30:09+00:00

i don't believe there is a race driven plot by "the jews". i think there are different factions or something like that.

there's also the question about asia. russia and china have the same kind of stuff going on? japan has refused any kind of mass immigration for example, are they just being kept under military power? if so, if the infiltration worked so well in western society, why not doing the same there? what is the difference between western countries and asian countries?

i agree that there's a lot of fuckery about history, well western history at least, but things still don't add up. you can't talk about a race of supervillains and say "well they forgot asia lol".

richard-z · 2017-04-21T00:02:41+00:00

Sad day for MGTOW to see the Nazis on our forum recruiting for White Supremacists.

quietthomas · 2017-04-19T03:51:41+00:00

Cultural Marxism was just the Frankfurt School's analysis of The Culture Industry, a term they had to come up with to think about. They were against the mass production and de-authentication of culture. To quote Adorno:

"The Culture Industry not so much adapts to the reactions of its customers as it counterfeits them." -Adorno

It is a term for a certain kind of Cultural Analysis (against lazy mass produced culture), and has nothing to do with Identity Politics which has its origins elsewhere.

[edit: Side note, The Frankfurt School "Cultural Marxists" were in fact protested by feminists, individuals within their lineage argue against identity and recognition politics, and members of The Frankfurt School have been some of the key critics of post modernism]

mahoganyneck · 2017-04-19T18:38:14+00:00

Interesting post history. You don't seem to be a fan of blacks or Asians, in addition to jews.

Let me save us time and address the response you'd otherwise make: I'm not jewish, half native American half German.

This is MTGOW, not caucasion males only going their own way so why don't you fuck right on off?

And because we're in the business of saving time, and since I know you'd otherwise respond by pretending as if you want to stay on topic and don't want to comment on the fact that your post history indicates you have it out for quite a few ethnicities, I'll point out to you that your entire sperged out rant is, in fact, off the topic of this subreddit as it contains only the most absurdly tangential pretense towards any discussion of men going their own way.

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account4189 · 2017-04-18T19:04:05+00:00

Counterexample: Feminism's rise in one of the old Muslim caliphates. (See Fate of Empires). Guess what - that was a long time before Marx and unlikely to have been orchestrated by anyone Jewish (considering it was in a Muslim empire.)

Alternative hypothesis: observed phenomena manifested as a consequence of innate human nature - across the species as a whole.

Coluphid · 2017-04-20T21:40:16+00:00

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Sizzious · 2017-04-21T00:29:45+00:00

Despite getting attacked at the recent thread, i actually agree with you.

But either side is dangerous, left or right, dark or light (force).

That's why im MGTOW but sometimes whenever i can i resist in my own way.

mofono · 2017-04-21T22:57:00+00:00

None of this proves anything. Many Jews are successful, but that doesn't mean there is a conspiracy by Jews. Correlation does not equal causation.

Quoting a few Jewish extremists does not implicate the majority, nor does their success at business. Black people excel at sports, yet I do not believe that there is some secret mission to eradicate white men from all sports. That would be absurd.

Given the large number of Jewish people, that they are all in agreement about some secret plan to destroy the West is absurd. With many people you have that many opinions.

You can do the same analysis and find that white people or men own nearly all wealth. It doesn't mean there is a grand conspiracy by men or white people to control the world, which is what feminists believe.

mofono · 2017-04-21T23:00:58+00:00

Many people (especially tradcons) are mourning the death of the traditional family. However, I would add that the traditional nuclear family goes against human nature. Humans were not meant to be monogamous. The nuclear family is merely the result of the breakup of the extended family as a result of greater freedom and economic growth leading to higher opportunity cost of looking after the family. As society progresses, extended family breaks up into nuclear family and nuclear family breaks up into individuals. This is the product of capitalism and freedom. The only way to halt this is to oppress people (especially women) and destroy economic growth.

All of this is a moot point. Our future as a society is written in fate. There is nothing we can personally do to change it. Unless you're a billionaire like George Soros or Bill Gates, you have no impact and no influence on geopolitics, culture, or international trade. When people go on internet forums and talk about politics and what "we must do," they are speaking about matters far beyond their paygrade and they are assuming a level of authority they do not have.

What each of us do have, however, is control over our personal lives. The choices we make impact on our personal futures, our freedom, and our wealth. Hence the best option for a man is MGTOW.

Title	How things got this way.
Author	Coluphid
Upvotes	22
Comments	66
Date	April 18, 2017 12:20 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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