Economists: Men now need more than just money to be 'marriageable'

secant128 · 2018-02-04T11:47:48+00:00

They literally said it. Women do not want to settle because they have so much freedom and options. So don't blame men for low marriage and fertility rate. Its the women and their freedom.

And do you know why all the politicians and huge corporations push this narrative? Because women are their biggest voters and customers! Men are frugal they will buy one car and use it for decades and keep fixing it by themselves. Because men know money don't fall from the sky. Men are just not profitable for them. Women on the other hand they blow off money like they are nothing because they don't know reality.

And they want you to provide all these material needs for her by slaving yourself. Fuck that, its much more liberating to just live a minimalist lifestyle. Go your own way and don't give a fuck about what these large corporations and their media say.

christianlazard · 2018-02-04T12:17:06+00:00

“If you want your son to be marriageable one day, tell him to stay in school now.”

=> If you want your daughter to be marriageable one day, tell her to stay a virgin.

Sol_Install · 2018-02-04T14:49:11+00:00

It doesn't matter. You cannot win. I've posted it several times and I'll post it again. You already need to make enough money to satisfy her. The problem with this is that the level of income depends completely on her. Why is this an issue? Because if she can monkey branch to another dick, you're fucked. So you have to increase your income to keep her around. Another issue with money is that if you make too much money, she'll divorce you and fuck another man in your home. Married? Great. She can fuck other men that she lusts for. Now, you're fucked. You can lose to a guy simply because he has a bigger dick. Or maybe he's just a man of a different race. Another issue regarding money is HER debt. There are women who rack a hefty amount of debt. With no plan to pay it off. Guess who that falls on? Her "man".

So anything she wants, you have to earn it. Not to mention you have to travel, being fucking amazing in bed, amazing romantic, be a beast man bodyguard, a gourmet chef, and keep all your problems to yourself.

Your reward? You get to have her in your life. Hold dat frame bro.

Million-Suns · 2018-02-04T17:01:29+00:00

Husbands who are "nonworking, noninvolved," she points out, can be "useless."

The article does not even attempt to hide that society sees men are disposable utility tools.

Fuck society.

the_unseen_one · 2018-02-04T16:50:20+00:00

At what point are they going to stop beating around the bush and just admit that the runaway hypergamy is the reason most women can't find a "good" man? When your standards can only be met by 5% of men, of course you're going to be either alone or disappointed. They're digging their own graves by not only supporting this mentality, but trying to sell it to men. When men are continually told they're not good enough and to always do better, a rational man will realize that shit isn't worth it and stop trying.

Oh well, enjoy the decline. Nobody wants to see us heading for a society wide wall at Mach 3 so I'm not going to stress it. Just need to save enough to start prepping before it all gets real bad.

DigitalScetis · 2018-02-04T16:57:57+00:00

Money may not make men 'marriageable', but it sure as hell makes them divorceable!

Docbear64 · 2018-02-04T16:55:53+00:00

Meanwhile the standards for a woman to be worthy of marriage has plummeted. Men do not request women to be their financial or intellectual equals , men generally have simpler healthy / beauty standards than women , and most women don't even expect women to be particularly exciting people.

The average man wants a few things from women :
- Her Loyalty
- Her kindness and respect
- Her support
- Sometimes express the connection and intimacy through sex and physical contact
- and a reliable partner to build a future with
- Bonus points if she knows how to cook , clean , or do anything other then party her life away .

We get the privilege of making an effort to be a Womans Christian Grey to be worthy of marriage meanwhile we are lucky if women are even half the woman Peg Bundy was and allow us to propose to them .

OurBenefactors4567 · 2018-02-04T16:43:41+00:00

The author of this article actually wrote a familiar narrative from another point of view: instead of pinning it on the man for not being responsible and having children out of wedlock with less desirable women, the author tells us that it's actually the woman making that choice, and that the woman is having a child with a man and not marrying him because she has the freedom and empowerment to do so.

What the author is forgetting is a critical component that's missing from all of these narratives about the interactions between men and women: love. You'd think from reading Ester Bloom's article that sex is purely a transaction and that women only do things in their own self-interest, and that men are the ones who are at the disposal of these self-centered women.

While there may be a lot of self-centered men and women out there, Ester Bloom has left a lot out of the picture in her article about marriage and seems to lack a fundamental understanding about marriage, or the men and women who get married out of love.

Bloom's version of this narrative is incorrect - you can smell the hostility she has towards men in the tone of her article.

If all men and women were as self-centered as this woman paints them out to be, then the world would be a very spiritually dead place. Thankfully, other kinds of people exist - water seeks its own level.

StrongAffordance · 2018-02-04T15:48:07+00:00

The assumption they’re making is that men want to get married but aren’t worthy of it. I’d bet $5 that a non trivial percentage of the men that experienced economic fortune from fracking chose not to marry.

Side note, no equality in the fracking jobs huh? I guess the feminists don’t want to get their hands dirty digging for oil and gas?

SleepyAirTraffic · 2018-02-04T17:27:59+00:00

who cares tbh

theoldnick · 2018-02-04T17:33:26+00:00

YEAR 2030: "Where are all the good men gone ?"

flakula · 2018-02-04T16:41:42+00:00

Lol the day I care if women want to marry me is the day I die. I've been saying it since I was a teenager, I am never getting married.

CursingWhileNursing · 2018-02-04T17:08:22+00:00

"Staying single can be a better bet for women, though, many of whom appreciate having more flexibility in terms of how to structure their personal lives than they did several decades ago. Sociology professor Pepper Schwartz writes, "Women now have choices that allow them to customize the arc of their lives and some of them find that it is best for them to put marriage aside."

In other words, the state is the new husband and daddy and throws money at women that made poor life choices.

Also, I think the fact that marriages are not increasing in numbers also has a lot to do with more and more men going their own way. Many of us have realised by now that once they make really good money, they become interesting for women who would not even look at them while they had a average low-pay job.

And the number mentioned increasing number of births can simply be explained by more men with money being around and thus, more women use a child as means to extort money from them.

thrown1520 · 2018-02-04T20:49:11+00:00

Probably because unmarried women get gifts, presents, free rent, free utilities, cars, clothes, and anything else from men with money.

She doesn't need to marry the man if she gets everything for free.

cleats4u · 2018-02-04T19:22:18+00:00

What this article doesn't address is of the women that find that perfect specimen of manhood. The divorce rates remain the same. Even with less marriages the divorce rates go unchanged. The government has created a life threatening toxic environment for men where the woman wields all power and can destroy a man on a whim. They can import men from third world countries to make up for the ones that are dropping out of the bull shit. Then they have to build more prisons because where these men come from they don't take shit off of women. You need more taxes for that and men are reducing their hours because unmarried men don't need that much to survive. At some point the governemnt is going to have to inseminate these women and make everyone pay for the raising of the child if they want to replace the population.

New_User1984 · 2018-02-04T19:42:02+00:00

Who cares what women want? They are missing the point that they are asking too much. Men need to grow a backbone and stand up to this nonsense to readjust the supply and demand curve

2018-02-04T20:47:02+00:00

A lifetime of Escorts and Surrogacy > Marriage

WideExemplification · 2018-02-04T22:18:05+00:00

Coupling up also helps people stay healthier and live longer, especially men.

LOL

"Children whose mothers are continuously married grow up to make higher incomes at age 40 than children raised at some point by single parents,"

I like how they specify the gender of 1 married partner (female) when it benefits a kid but specify no genders when it hurts a kid and go with 'parents' instead

rockinhard130 · 2018-02-05T01:30:02+00:00

So it mentions that women don't want to marry these men making decent money, but they're more than willing to slut it up and entrap men with children and lock them into child support. How many poor suckers are stuck trying to pay a huge amount of child support even when the oil jobs dry up?

oldmanlogan76 · 2018-02-05T12:45:21+00:00

Yes it's all about us men. What we can provide, what we can offer.

2018-02-05T22:16:41+00:00

Not sure if there's any truth to those man up articles, but apparently this generation of males in the US is underemployed and making a lot less than our dads at our age, there literally aren't any beta bucks to be hand:

Title	Economists: Men now need more than just money to be 'marriageable'
Author	vhemtmgtow
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Date	February 4, 2018 10:47 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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