How to have kids and provide a quality home environment as MGTOW?

Mac290 · 2017-02-06T19:57:24+00:00

You can't mitigate the risks. It's not misogynistic to avoid something that you can't win.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-02-06T20:19:18+00:00

I hear a lot of sour grapes and mindless hedonism expressed here. But rarely anything constructive on how men can achieve their most fundamental goals in life. Namely, children and the continuation of ones family line, genes and knowledge.

hahahahaaa !!! projecting a bit aren't you? I am child free for life, surgically and could not be happier about it.

2017-02-06T20:23:29+00:00

But rarely anything constructive on how men can achieve their most fundamental goals in life. Namely, children and the continuation of ones family line, genes and knowledge.

Aren't you assuming that men's fundamental goals are children? After MGTOW, I never want children.

2017-02-06T21:29:37+00:00

Adopt a young man who was raised by a single mother.

gods_bones · 2017-02-06T23:42:49+00:00

Good luck with that. From the moment you give your child their first vaccination (i'm not an anti-vaxxer) they belong to the rat race. Once they go to school they are indoctrinated and property of the state. To be MGTOW is to have the presence of mind not to bet married and procreate, because as a man, your children are never yours, which is why we rarely ever talk about them here.

phreshstart · 2017-02-06T20:20:31+00:00

You mean their most prehistoric instinct, not their most fundamental goals in life. Also there are 8 billion people on this planet, one or two more with your genes wont make much of a difference. If you want to pass on knowledge you can do that right now, talk to your friends or with their kids, some nephews, etc. You can become a teacher and pass on all the knowledge you want. Ever heard of those cool teachers? You could be one of them. But if you really want your own kids, from what I heard you could use a surrogate mother for best mitigating legal and financial risks.

jadesuccubus · 2017-02-06T20:34:11+00:00

Here is some advice I've given to male friends that has helped them in securing their children; especially away from a mother that had no business raising one and overcoming the system bias:

Part of the process of having a child will involve legal shopping. What I mean by that is there are risks that are lessened via surrogacy or obtaining the child without directly attaching a wife into the mix, though this isn't completely eliminated and you'd probably want to move to an area where laws are more favorable and you can possibly win custody; or if you have a child already and are attempting to figure out how to raise it properly while already trapped with a wife, there may be some things you can do more easily if you can relocate to another area.

For example, suppose your wife is a drunk driver or borderline-psychotic and threatens to kill the children. You may be able to record her saying this without telling her and record her poor behavior and use that to win custody, but that depends on the laws of the area you live in - in some cases that will be dismissed, so consult with a lawyer first. Being aware of the laws in your area and how plausible it is to convince the family to "move to a nicer more expensive (just say it's more expensive don't actually show the numbers to this nutcase you are trying to control) home cause you deserve everything honey<3" location in a different state to make the laws more flexible and you can potentially collect a bank of information you can use to prevent the court from giving your children to a drunk driver or other degenerate.

As a male, one of the risks you will face is a biased court system, but that's a risk that can be mitigated depending on location and preparation. A lot of judges will take the mother's word over yours unless you can prove 100% she's unable to hold custody, and if you're in california for example, that proof may be dismissed due to technicalities.

If the child is a daughter, here's something my father told me - "guys will hit on you and give you things, and treat you differently based on you being pretty. that includes lying and saying an idea is great when it's awful just to butter up your ego. Always assume praise may be false and don't slip into narcissism." - he had me read things like 1984 to be more politically aware and prepare me against the influences of my female peers. Your daughter will go to school and be bombarded with peers and teachers and a culture that will attempt to stop her from using her brain, and minds decay from disuse. You need to try your best to protect her mind from being cannibalized. I have few female friends, not many survive this process with a working mind intact. Make her read literature that makes her think and prepare her for what she will inevitably hear in the girls' bathroom (which will be "oh my gosh your dad didn't buy you a car it's like he doesn't even love you my boyfriend bought me a phone and he's like working like 40 hours!"). Teach her to understand money, time, value, work, etc. It's better she's annoyed by her peers than consumed by them.
A third point that I think is very important for a lot of men to learn is that if you do have a child there is a distinct risk something will go wrong with the female participant attempting to screw you over. It's not as bad with surrogacy and not as bad in certain areas, but until artificial womb tech, it's not going to completely go away. You need to let go of concepts of chivalry or fighting honorably for the child, because you're going to lose. Males, I have observed, have an oddly ingrained sense of honor or playing by rules and with a degree of restraint, especially vs a female. But it's a lot better to play dirty and be naughty, than to allow a drunk driver that's going to get your kids killed by driving into a telephone line be given custody of your child. This lesson should be passed on to sons if possible so they don't shoot themselves in the foot. It's better to win dirty than to lose clean if the result will be your child being crippled due to a drunk driver mother that was given the kids because "dawwww she wuz crying about lozing kidz here hunie you can hav em from mean man"

Exitus Acta Probat. Outcome justifies deed.

Hope this was helpful <3

SynfulVisions · 2017-02-06T21:13:45+00:00

Fuck her, knock her up, take custody, raise kids... just don't marry her.

Jedibenuk · 2017-02-06T23:02:58+00:00

Convert to Islam. Stick her in a niqab. Don't let her out the house or speak to other men. Use foreign banks under foreign names. Declare all expenses as religious aid. File against every company that refuses a job application against you while using your new name Ahmed M'gtow-al-britani for discrimination.

coqui25 · 2017-02-06T23:39:43+00:00

Probably adopt and create a foundation for kids no one adopts. I don't want too many, but if fed gov still exists after djt, I am going to get some grant money on that.

I have to graduate first doh

2017-02-06T23:52:34+00:00

Hmm...enjoy the ride. That's all I can say.

mofono · 2017-02-07T10:07:47+00:00

Personally, I don't want children. They are expensive and annoying, and I don't care about spreading my genes. I'd rather pocket the cash and have the ability to retire very early and not be a fucking wage slave licking the toilet bowl clean in order to put a smile on the boss's face so I can achieve a 3% raise to afford the higher cost of living I need to support my five children and entitled housewife and mortgage in my McMansion whose tax and interest payments enrich the government and bankers.

But if you're interested, look into surrogacy.

mofono · 2017-02-07T10:20:35+00:00

Go to a poor country, find a hot girl there, impregnate her, run away from the country, and pay her in bitcoin so she can use the money to rise the child.

inspiron3000 · 2017-02-07T17:23:34+00:00

Trust law.

Title	How to have kids and provide a quality home environment as MGTOW?
Author	Coluphid
Upvotes	10
Comments	34
Date	February 6, 2017 7:38 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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