Thoughts on selective perception / confirmation bias?

chasingsnow · 2017-02-03T17:44:15+00:00

i've been waiting for that unicorn my whole life. all i've ever done until recent years of MGTOW is treat women with respect, compassion and care. please show me this NAWALT that you speak of.

GenesisRunner · 2017-02-03T18:38:33+00:00

"Power Corrupts"

That sums up humanity. Now, no matter how wonderful of a person a women may be at first - given enough time - she will eventually realize the power at her disposal. At the earliest sign of depression or absence of self-confidence, she will [as all humans do] reevaluate the position she is in.

Whereas most men will attempt to address said depression through rather moral or creative ways (mid-life crisis sports car purchases as an example), the woman will tap into the power granted to her by society and government in an effort to better her life/situation, or her perception thereof. This is where divorce, alimony, and more come in.

When we do come across a couple who have remained successfully married for 60+ years, it could be representative of one of two scenarios: (1) The woman was never truly exposed to the powers available to her at the right age, or (2) She was aware of her powers, but had had everything to lose in a divorce and nothing to gain. She most definitely is not a NAWALT.

sadbasturd99 · 2017-02-03T19:05:27+00:00

We are not capable of looking at things truly. It is man's greatest accomplishment to realize this, and to fix it. The way it was fixed was by using the Scientific Method.

Here is some Science. 80% of all men are LESS THAN AVERAGE attractiveness according to women.

2017-02-03T17:40:58+00:00

Any fellow MGTOWs have thoughts on selective perception or confirmation bias? Do we simply confirm our own beliefs?

We ARE self-selected. But statistically, the number of shared AWALT experiences is just too damn high.

rectrey · 2017-02-03T18:11:24+00:00

This world is an illusion. A very convincing one, but illusion nonetheless. When you fall for a woman, you become ensnared in lies, deceit, and corruption.

As is often mentioned on this forum, the first stage of swallowing the red pill is anger and/or depression. The next stage is contentment and acceptance. There is another stage after this, and that is "seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes" and attempting to find the truth of this world. Overcoming the spell of women is the preliminary.

rahl_r · 2017-02-03T18:33:52+00:00

Hope for the best, plan for the worst?

Build yourself up to be Mr. Awesome? Foster a sixth sense on how women operate - know when she is (dis)satisfied and learn to predict her next moves?

Install a keylogger onto her phone/email account - know what sort of shit is up before it hits the fan?

Have backup plans, offshore bank accounts, etc.?

VanDerVaart · 2017-02-03T19:37:23+00:00

Nope, now with every girl now growing up surrounded by social media to enable their descent into self-centered delusion any reasonable and skinny woman is raised to have an absurd mental complex.

NAWALT can never be a thing anymore.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2017-02-03T20:24:20+00:00

Someone recently pointed out - the existence of TRP and MGTOW communities on top of all the off-shoots and people who touch on MGTOW/TRP concepts without actually knowing or caring about the label and ideas, or even rejecting them, more than confirms the existence of the "problems" addressed therein. There's a Latin phrase that comes to mind, but it eludes me at the moment, and on second thought, that might not be apt. I mean, while a compelling argument can be made against MGTOW's existence itself proving the "problem," one has to question the motives of why men and women fight so hard to prove it, going against hard data, Evo psych, and the heuristics of men's common experience. Could it be that women don't want to be seen as the conniving, usurious whores they are? And that men don't want their instincts and resultant reproductive/NAWALT fantasies destroyed? I mean, after all, what the hell is a man's purpose without women and children and society to serve? As the mystic 8ball says, after seeing this same shit year after year, all signs point to yes. People, psychologically speaking, are pussies, afraid of the ugliness of reality and truth, prone to believe in heaping piles of garbage, dogma and ideologies, and absent the hard line truths of or survival (hunting, violence, brutality, needing the people around you physically), they are afforded all manners of fear-fueled nonsensical beliefs, such as feminism, all compounded by our instincts, which out of survival, lead to large and larger civilizational hubs, all backed and ruled by our basest instincts and fears, and gynocracy's rule is this absolute.

*** I put "problems" in quote because what is once a problem, is now freedom. Fuck women, their fears an problems and endless complaints. Cheers to men, MGTOW, and as much freedom as you can take in your life.

Big_ass_mgtow · 2017-02-03T18:47:19+00:00

Yep just lift and hold frame

Darth_Bicycle · 2017-02-03T18:53:29+00:00

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man . - Nietzsche

When I think of the possibility of a NAWALT, it seems to suggest to me that the idea behind her is, that there is something wrong with the average woman, the AWALT. In fact nothing could be further from the truth in my mind. She has done a hell of a job over populating the planet and following her biological imperative, and we helped her along just fine. Most men's lot in life is to be fucked over by a woman as she transfers resources from you to herself and to her children. To me that's just how our species works. If anything, most men are in denial about that reality. If anything the NAWALT doesn't function as she should. A proper woman will fuck over the man to preserve herself and her children (and the genes). If this is some kind of confirmation bias, and the truth is that women are in fact loyal, then I don't know how to explain reality without resorting to some kind of absurd myths and fairy-tales. But hey, other men are welcome to believe whatever they want. What ever helps you get up in the morning.

2017-02-03T19:41:57+00:00

Do you have an example of NAWALT to share that we can look up information on and verify for ourselves? Does anyone? No because AWALT. This world poops out AWALTS.

2017-02-03T19:57:51+00:00

The Problem that exists with absolutist statements like AWALT is that inevitably there will always be an exception to that rule, thus yes, it is likely that there are NAWALTs but they would also be considered an anomaly. I would put NAWALTs in the same category with extraterrestrials. Do they exist? Probably. Will I ever see one? Probably not.

Darth_Bicycle · 2017-02-03T21:58:31+00:00

More thoughts on the confirmation bias:

Usually when we look at the world our ego is kind of involved. We tend to look at the world in terms of how we wish it to be. We have our hopes and aspirations involved. I think most men have an ego that thinks and hopes that women will love him. To look at the world without this ego and hope, is kind of going against that natural bias that we have. That's not to say that we shouldn't critically think about our position as well, but to me it seems that the blue bill view seems to be the more predominant. We hope and dream that the world would confirm the blue pill. We get angry and frustrated when it doesn't. I think Charles Peirce the pragmatist, would say that this means that our hopes have collided with reality. Adjust accordingly.

Finally, you will never be able to look at the world without any kind bias. That would be a God's view. An objective view without any flavors, or flaws that your culture and upbringing gives you is impossible for a man. Our view point into a world and phenomenon is always limited and we will also only grasp one aspect of the world at a time. We can't see it all in one glance. It would overwhelm us. We can also take the approach that Sartre took; This is how the world appears to our consciousness right now. If in the future it appears differently, we will adjust our view point.

Mojo_666 · 2017-02-03T17:17:06+00:00

Regardless of MGTOW TRP or anything else I think everyone should be aware of confirmation bias. Understanding or even knowing what confirmation bias is gives an individual and advantage in life as it allows you to spot bias in others and in yourself. if you see it you can deal with it, it's when you can't see it you start to have issues. I would also argue that Blue Pillers suffer from confirmation bias more so than MGTOW or TRP as you have to battle the bias to swallow the pills to begin with.

2017-02-03T23:32:39+00:00

Until the boys back in the lab can come up with a portable NAWALT Detector I'll stick with AWALT.

Mac290 · 2017-02-03T19:14:18+00:00

What is the profit in this case?

Migtaosammich · 2017-02-03T20:00:14+00:00

I see confirmation bias everywhere I look.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2017-02-03T20:44:40+00:00

Here's another one. I see our dissection and exploration of male and female nature as no different than say, an entomologist studying ants. In studying the ants - the scientist observes general behaviors that apply to all the ants, and while there are outliers in behavior, these exceptions aren't the rule, they prove the rule, and even with their exceptional behavior, they are still fundamentally ants that run on the rest of the same instincts and behaviors as the rest of the ants. Now - if this entomologist somehow got it in his head that he was going to find an ant, that wasnt an ant, well, that is the NAAALT, and why the hell would the scientist even look for that? At that point, he is looking for something else, because by definition, it is something that doesn't exist, or if it did, it would be something else entirely. In short, the NAWALT is men looking for honorable male traits and mythical female traits in a creature that cannot have them by way of fact, as their natural existence does not afford anything but AWALT, and their instincts, existence and evolution require AWALT. And if you do find a NAWALT, Im 100% sure she will have a penis.

MGTOW_Monger · 2017-02-04T04:59:40+00:00

You are welcome to disprove AWALT.

However, in seeking your NAWALT, I highly recommend you never marry or live with a woman in a common law marriage state.

Be careful dating in today's environment as well.

Having said all that as fair warning, there is no need to hypothesize, nor philosophize about your subject.

Just do shit firsthand.

You will learn as you experience.

Title	Thoughts on selective perception / confirmation bias?
Author	calories_for_closers
Upvotes	9
Comments	28
Date	February 3, 2017 5:03 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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