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[–]andreas-mgtow30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
As a public service, before the RPrs show up and start their usual inane bullshit, here :
Frame, bleh, blah, Alpha, blah, aggressive, bleh, spin plates, blah, blah, neg game.
Not worth it.
[–]GuidoBandito11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
A few minutes on Craigslist (ha!), a couple hundred dollars, an hour or two of sex and you're done.
No painful gaming, no wasted time because you pay up front.
After some financial situations are resolved, this and similar sites are the way I'll be going. Gaming is for my PS4...
[–]Quantumstinger11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wish it would just be legalized
[–]GuidoBandito8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's legal until you're caught, right? Or so I'm told...
If you phrase it all correctly, no mention of sex in the transaction, it's pretty much legal.
"I paid for conversation, can I help it if she felt the need to give me a blow job?"
[–]Quantumstinger6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but I would want them to get tested if I was going to fuck them.
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yup, stress on the 'she felt' part.
[–]Ximkai2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For give me from asking....
But what are the quality levels of Craigslist hoes? I'm honestly looking for hand sanitizer as I type this out...
[–]GuidoBandito1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And you should use the extra strength stuff...
My comment was an oversimplification but holds whatever weight in the overall idea of using escorts instead of Tinder, POF, OkC, etc...
[–]andreas-mgtow0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like a boss.
[–]geocitiesuser26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I'm fit and wealthy and have been getting ignored/rejected by hundreds of women for years. If I want to actually meet someone it involves a TON of effort on my part to show up at a coffee date that they may or may not even show up to, then when they do there's still a 50/50 chance.
Usually meeting them in person gets you in the door, but the amount of effort required is insane. Absolutely insane. Also, they're all fat. The ones who aren't refuse to reply to me... so I give up.
[–]MuscleCarz15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Also, even if you "hit it off," we know what's coming. Yeah, sex for awhile, then the uncomfortable reality of her laying out her plans.
The sex and affection takes up maybe what, 2% of the time? Funny how we don't really think as men what the other 98% of the time we spend with these creatures is really like.
Eventually, they get bored with the predictability and routine and start in with the marriage-related questions, hints and other subtle demands.
Just isn't worth it anymore when you know what's coming.
I wish we had Brothels here in USA like in Germany and Scandanavian Countries.
[–]geocitiesuser9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If we had brothels I'd probably just find a nice regular provider and be content. But that's exactly why we don't have brothels.
[–]Raiden6272 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You can do this quite easily in the States if you know what you're doing.
[–]geocitiesuser-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Too much effort for too much risk. I also LOVE weed, but it is not legal in my area, so I don't do it.
[–]Raiden6270 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn't say it's too much effort but certainly there is risk to it. A significant amount of the risk is offloaded if you do outcalls.
[–]geocitiesuser10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I dunno, I've heard way too many horror stories
Girls working as lookouts in outcalls to see if the house is worth robbing
Getting mugged in general
Unregulated sex trade got more diseases than my ex gf
First time buyers getting busted by sting on places like backpage
All the girls I've found are 250lbs black women that aren't attractive
I'd rather jerk off to 120lb blond teen slut on my favorite tube site.
[–]Raiden6272 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look into Providers that have been reviewed. Look up the number to see if it checks out and if something looks sketchy get the hell out of there.
You run a similar risk when women don't bother to tell you that they're married or have a boyfriend and you end up banging them in their living room and their man comes home.
[–]Mini_Bot0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As with anything that's illegal, the seller has enough deal leverage to sell you shit goods.
[–]Returnofthemack30 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol yeah, i'm seriously at that point too. Gotta get to Europe or something
[–]mfg0923 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brothels won't really solve your problem much. We have brothels in Australia, and it still doesn't stop the simping at times.
[–]Mini_Bot1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do brothel goers have a stigma against them? I'm wondering if this is an example of men not simply wanting sex but actual companionship.
[–]palaceposy67061 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only so much honey in that honey pot. Beware the honey pot...
[–]TheWaterbear800 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm content for now with porn and masturbation to deal with the occasional urge, but if my plans work out and I move to Germany in a few years, I might be tempted to try going to a brothel....Big emphasis on "might." If there's a social stigma attached to it, then I wouldn't bother.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Jeez, you must be bored out of your mind lol.
[–]Raiden6273 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was bored, decided I was going to fill some time before my move from my liberal shit state (~2 years) and barely made it out after a few weeks. All roads lead to Rome as they say.
[–]mechdemon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it happens.
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[–]Quantumstinger16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your sentence would be much more streamlined and true if you removed the like.
[–]baptized-in-flames13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The dating game is skewed. Based off a 1-10 rating scale, most women rate themselves at least 3 points higher than they actually are. For men, if you aren't at least an 8/10, your only options for women are 6/10s or even lower.
The game is fucked. The only way to go is MGTOW.
[–]gundahir6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the way women see it there are men who are 8s (subpar), 9s (nice) and 10s (ideal). the rest are -100 and not worth any time. this skewed view gets worse the more attractive the woman is. if she is a 7/10 but feels like a 10 any other men than 10s are -100. they can be so stubborn about this they rather stay single than date a 7.
[–]Tama_drummer_man3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if the guy is an 8/10, the bloody woman who is a 3/10 will still be waiting for a 9/10 or 10/10's. The game is totally fucked, not worth the stress, or our damn resources for a few thrusts we will get before we actually contemplate blowing our brains out because the bitches be crazy.
O ya, the attractiveness curve that women gave men on OkCupid. The average rating was around 2. But you would expect in a normal bell curve with an average around 5 for a relative rating system.
[–]scouse_till_idie9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
online dating is just an ego trip for women, photoshop and filters mean that all girls can look "hot" and get attention, don't contribute to that shit and their ego trip
[–]Bartand6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Most women on dating website are fake profile of scammers. Most women doesn't use them, they don't have to, they already have the village waiting in line to fuck her.
[–]Paladin29035 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Some do, but it's not nearly as many as guys think. At least half are escorts, fakes, prostitutes, or fake profiles generated by the app or website (<---They ALL do this).
In reality, it's probably 10 guys for every 1 or 2 real girls, no matter what the website or app reports, as they're all full of shit and are there to artificially inflate numbers to generate revenue from sucker daters and ad revenue.
[–]Raiden6275 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man got with a girl myself for a month for the sex thinking it was going to be great and quickly realized that keeping a girl for a relationship to have sex is like buying the farm to get some eggs. Sure, I won't have sex as consistently as I was during the infatuation period but the bullshit associated with it is ridiculous and a woman will find any reason to explain why she's not happy - as if that's your job too - don't only manage your own emotional state after a long week but you have to manage hers on a minute by minute basis too.
[–]Zombocom19114 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They really are stuck up and conceited these days aren't they? Why is it only men who are facing a strong dose of brutal reality whenever they log on to those sites? One day the pendulum has to swing back the other way.
[–]mfg0924 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The worst thing about the Western dating market is how lopsided it is. 66% of women are overweight or obese. So that realistically takes out about the same percentage of women. So the other 34% have no incentive to be somewhat pleasant, as they have 3x the normal demand.
[–]wordjedi2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right, if all I can get are ugly fat chicks that don't really turn me on at all, what's the point? I'm neither ugly nor fat nor short, and I have education and money. It's like there are 100X more men than women dating, but we know that's not true outside of China.
[–]rovad_1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems that way because all the women are tending to share chad. This trend is increasing by the month, pretty soon harems will not be societal taboo and will be openly discussed. If you think youve seen social degeneracy, just wait until harems become a thing.
[–]cynicalsimon1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get a hooker.
[–]Paladin29031 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
With the current crop of women, and current trend of online dating (although I feel it's dying out some), I'd rather spend hours pricking my eyeballs with sewing needles.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like sex so I'm unable to go full MGTOW, but I avoid relationships like the plague. My advice: online dating is a waste of time... if you want to get laid just be social and hang out in bars. I have no time for dating and courtship. I'm all about FWB and ONS
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That's why hookers are so great. It's an honest transaction and it's not demeaning if your mind is right. There is no negative karma if you are respectful of yourself and the girl you're spending time and money on.
Having sex with sluts is the same, just have to be respectful of her and you. There is honor in honesty and true exchange of resources. Even when dealing with women.
If you plan on taking a girl's virginity you better marry her and take her as your wife and have it be for as long as she lives and give her lots of babies. And love her every molecule. If you don't you are not only corrupting her, but yourself, and the lives of other men willing to take her on as a wife and love her and do right by her.
With sluts it isn't this way because you are not on the hook, you didn't take her virginity, and she has already been corrupted, so there is no negative karma.
[–]MuscleCarz9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
That's why hookers are so great.
Agreed. Especially clean, intelligent, un-jaded ones.
Whoah there, Brother! What the Holy Fuck?
Do you have any idea how sexually aggressive young virgin girls are? What planet are you from?
Hah! I can remember girls in High School throwing their virginity at Sport Jocks, Stoners and other assorted guys left and right without blinking a fucking eye. Being a virgin to them was a burden, a setback and they had no problem giving it up.
Besides that, being a virgin DOES NOT alter her darker nature one iota.
you didn't take her virginity,
TAKE her virginity? We men don't TAKE anything. When it comes to sex, SHE's IN CONTROL, PERIOD.
Long before you slip your dick into ANY "innocent virgin," she's already decided when, where, why and how it's going down, and you can take that to the fucking bank.
Virgin or not, women, young and old are creatures of survival. They will fuck men over for their own egoistic, hypergamous gain and will walk the fuck away without a care in the world. Zero shame, zero remorse, zero guilt.
I'm getting the feeling you haven't read Esther Vilar's book yet.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I get it and I agree with your statement. I'm speaking of a perfect world here. No way would I allow my teen daughter to have access to irresponsible stoners, the football team, or any other young asshole Chad who would easily take my daughter's virginity. Women are wild aggressive animals and men are to never underestimate them.
What is a girl to do with such a high sex drive? Of course she must find an outlet for it, and do as nature intended. It's a sick, yet eye opening fact. The key is to channel their sex urges into something useful, life giving, and responsible so that we don't have a world like we have today.
I realize that in our current culture in the west, it's very jaded, and without a serious overhaul, beyond saving at this point. So we go our own way and survive and do the best we can without getting screwed over without losing our HONOR. Allowing my teen girl to be a slut is not honorable and will NOT be tolerated by me under any circumstances. If my power is taken by others who are stronger than me, then I am off the hook. But if it happens under my watch and I had the ability to avert it, then her dishonor is on me.
We can go our own way, which I am. But I will not lose hope that someday we can build a better world for ourselves so that no man may suffer against his will sexually as some of us here have. And I must retain my highest ideals in spite of going against society.
[–]belhaj71 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Our best bet for a better world is sex bots and virtual reality.
[–]Aaron-MGTOW0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a daughter as well. It makes having a MGTOW mindset difficult at times. I try to shield her from all the "influence" of how women act in our culture, but its VERY hard. All this princess bullshit and gynocentrism is everywhere.
Much harder than having a boy. I talk with my son about MGTOW principles and he gets it. My young daughter on the other hand....it'll be hard enough to undo the indoctrination from her feminist mother.
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Dank Meme bruh
[–]DJP35250 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This might get buried, but I totally get still wanting to get laid and I am in your situation as well.
Thing to do: use your money to fuck prostitutes. Don't let the social stigma of it turn you away. It's the oldest profession as they say. It's only illegal to keep men under the control of women.
Use backpage to find them. Also, if you have the means and are a bit adventurous, travel to another country and fuck a lot of prostitutes for minimal money. If you live in the U.S., I would start with the DR and go from there.
EDIT: I guess this was already discussed on this thread. Happy hunting!
[–]cashmoney_x0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of above average sized dudes in this sub......
[–]funinsun100 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You keep harping on looks.... Its your available resources and are you willing to use those resources to excite her and empower her.. What is your socio-economic status... Are you a clown that can entertain the trapped girl inside her ruthless soul? And if you can... You'll get her golden treasure chest thats full of chuck e cheese tickets and plastic coins!!! My advice... Rent it.
[–]Toffifee_BeiFjong0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ghosting women as a group was never the answer (IMO). They need to know what they've lost, otherwise the statement this movement makes is lost on them.
I'm not saying mgtow is about that statement but it's an important statement non-the-less. It prevents unwarranted questions about why many men choose to disengage from the scene.
That being said, if your idea of being mgtow is to just slip under the radar, then by all means godspeed to you.
I'll keep waving the flag that says 'women are the problem. As that will at least give them a hint to change and all the more deserving of contempt for choosing not to.
SO, going mgtow because you're not getting laid the conventional way is probably not a great idea. Maybe let the red pill sink in first and with some self reflection you'll know what's right for you.
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