Who does the MGTOW consider good role models for females ?

omegashakaz · 2015-05-14T19:14:08+00:00

who cares

Asari_Lover · 2015-05-14T17:41:21+00:00

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csehszlovakze · 2015-05-14T17:50:56+00:00

I'd say most guys in MGTOW don't care anymore. Feminism just put the last nail in the coffin, as AWHABLT (all women have always been like that) applies to anyone and unicorn-hunting is pointless.

mgtowthrowawayabc · 2015-05-14T18:43:03+00:00

Esther Vilar. Spread the word about her books and you can help society and men a lot.

I've met/observed a few bulgarians. If not for the money, women will do it for sport/just for fun. And by 'it' I mean 'use and ruin men'.

PiratedEmotionDealer · 2015-05-14T17:18:07+00:00

Well, no offense the central claims about female behavior don't change because your country financially robs men via divorce to a lesser extent. All societies are at root gynocentric as non-gynocentric society could have survived in terms of the field of group-competition that shaped our species in terms of cultural group selection.

In response to your question there is no real MGTOW one-size-fits-all response. I personally don't believe there is any way for women to change their behavior. This is NOT a value judgment, but rather a descriptive account of mammalian biology. Our evolutionary history has ingrained us with certain tendencies and behaviors (reinforced by cultural evolution) which conferred greater adaptive fitness. Mammalian females are wired to seek resources (as you refer to). The only change women may exhibit is the form of strategies by which they seek to achieve this goal. The surface level strategy may vary under Western to Islamic to Asian cultural pressures. However, at root women can only change their surface level strategies when engaging with men. The kind of fundamental change you speak of is only possible with the right cluster of selection pressures which would change how women view men. I can't fathom exactly what this cluster would look like though the advent of artificial wombs, male birth control (in 2017), and other technological innovations will make the female biological role obsolete and this may bring about a fundamental re-alignment of how women act on a root biological level.

However, I can meet you half way. If women want to contribute to society and be more decent here are some suggestions:

Reject and never encourage, demand, or accept marriage proposals. You will be doing blue-pill men a favor.
Stop using the narrative of male privilege and female oppression by actually doing research and realizing how worse off men really are as it may shift your perspective of males.
Stop voting for politicians who offer you greater redistribution of resources (taking mostly from men to benefit overwhelmingly female constituencies) via the State.
Stop accusing men of rape because some other woman claimed rape, but has yet to offer evidence. Look to India to see how women have exacerbated this issue. Essentially, stop perpetuating a "rape culture-culture."

Isaiah4verse1 · 2015-05-14T17:43:03+00:00

What you want is the /r/redpillwomen sub. They will teach you all you need to know on how to pretend to be a good woman and suppress your inate nature to exploit men to sucker a gullible goose into a relationship.

Good luck!

I leave you with the words of the late, great Louis Armstrong:

If you have to ask, you will never know.

_NerdStark · 2015-05-14T18:03:58+00:00

Alright, I'll humor you:

Good role-models for women might include:

Esther Vilar and Erin Pizzey: these are women who have, to a decent extent, transcended the gynocentric entitlement brainwashing that is standard fare for women everywhere.

In short, being a 'better human being' might include not using every trick in the book to rob men of their money and their possessions. Broadly speaking, women need to grow up and actively seek out *agency** and responsibility in their lives*...

That would be a good start, don't you think? I won't hold my breath.

FarQuarr · 2015-05-14T19:23:02+00:00

Personally, I'm past the point of thinking women will ever even try to figure this out. I have given up on Western Women to the point of no return.

Women in other foreign countries seem more appealing. We know AWALT, so therein lies your answer. Look up the differences in culture and law, while still observing our axiom that, "All Women Are Like That".

PiratedEmotionDealer · 2015-05-14T17:55:21+00:00

Also, whenever a woman comes to learn about MGTOW I'm always interested to know why? And scholarship is never the real reason.

PM_ME_UR_PLANTS · 2015-05-15T02:51:18+00:00

Isaac Newton

shlemon · 2015-05-15T10:11:39+00:00

in my country men don't pay after divorce as much money as men in Western countries and I don't think they have problems you do-- at least not to that extent

Currently

AugmentedFury · 2015-05-14T23:49:49+00:00

There's no point in trying to make females understand logic when their entire thought process is based on emotions. It doesn't work.

Imagine the top of a cliff is logic. Trying to make a female understand our point of view is like trying to climb a cliff with no hands or feet. It isn't going to happen.

HerbivoreUSA · 2015-05-15T06:54:51+00:00

Mother Teresa. Oh, but you "want" to have children, don't you? You "want" a husband, you "want" a father for your children, it's all about you, you, you, and what you "want", isn't it?

So, let me repeat it again. You "want" a role model? Mother Teresa.

VladMartel · 2015-05-15T08:06:32+00:00

Honestly, I'm Catholic and while reddit and others would say I'm a "misogynist," I really don't identify as one. I'd point to most of the female saints, including the Virgin Mother. St Gianna is another I'd encourage folks to take a look at. Elizabeth Anscombe was a good woman, but not a canonized saint.

Helen Alvaré is another good example. She's actually a lawyer, but is really serious about being a mother and fights pretty hard against feminism and the sexual revolution. Listen to that link while you're cleaning your house or working out or whatever.

I'm not trying to proselytize, but, basically, traditional Catholic women.

Asari_Lover · 2015-05-15T13:52:26+00:00

Be the change you want to see miss. If you have no female role models to look up to that men, and you, would respect then become that which is lacking.

dafoak · 2015-05-15T20:59:13+00:00

There are good female role models?

Da_Wall · 2015-05-14T18:42:44+00:00

Go over to the MRM and ask those limp-wrists or go to The Red Pill and hang out with PUAs all day. They'd love you.

wadewilsonofcourse · 2015-05-15T03:33:11+00:00

This is just too funny.

oldredder · 2015-05-15T09:44:16+00:00

A good father would do it - these women had none because only weak pussies, ruined men, or divorce-rape by mother sent daddy away and bankrupted him while the wife filled her daughter's ear and brain with nonsense lies about daddy and all men.

Ruined for life.

Title	Who does the MGTOW consider good role models for females ?
Author	elle_Fr0st
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Date	May 14, 2015 3:45 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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