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America's FERTILITY RATE continues to DECLINE. Just GYOW guys. Don't fall for this notion of GOD COUNTRY FAMILY BS WHICH WE GREW UP WITH AS CONSERVATIVES

VagabondLonewolf

November 22, 2019
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Title America's FERTILITY RATE continues to DECLINE. Just GYOW guys. Don't fall for this notion of GOD COUNTRY FAMILY BS WHICH WE GREW UP WITH AS CONSERVATIVES
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VagabondLonewolf

Upvotes 116
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Date November 22, 2019 9:28 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW
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[–]Sadman148250 points51 points52 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Had a funny conversation the other day . Women don’t understand how difficult it will be to have kids after 35 , 20 years of birth control and multiple abortions . They were truly lied to GYOW fellas

[–]thetinggoskrraa41 points42 points43 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The annoying part is when I tell a group of people that IF I ever decide to get married in the future, I’d have to be close to 40 and marry someone in their 20s. You should see the looks of disbelief and disgust I get. Yet older women who want younger men are just having β€œstandards.” God forbid we have standards and want someone fertile

[–]Sadman148224 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They want us to save single moms bro . Keep you head on straight and don’t fall for the agenda. Especially the way things are moving the shaming will get more intense because almost every women will have children in the future . Almost every woman over 26 has kids now or it’s a 35+ cat lady who rode the carousel and can’t get a man to commit now . You would think with 30+ ways of birth control for women their would be no single mothers but all it did was open the doors for more slutting and these idiots still get pregnant . I refuse to be a step father honestly

[–]GrundyHasPants14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same crap with me. Whenever someone pressures that I need to get a wife and I tell them that I want to first secure my financial situation and that I would need to marry someone who is around 25 so that I could have children of my own, people look at me like I am crazy. I even had one woman in her 40s tell me that I shouldn't set limits like that because children are not all that great anyways. Its crazy how full of shit women are when they start to get desperate.

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would ya get married in the 1st place ?

[–]teslaistheshit0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I'm guessing he hasn't been paying attention to this sub at all. He's better off in r/MRA

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This sub i think is for travellers as well. But the thing is we got the best deal. We got INNER PEACE. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

[–]NathanHollister6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shh, keep it a secret. If they find out how hard it is to have kids when old, they will start having more kids young, and more men will get raped with child support, and we will pay higher taxes for the new welfare babies. A lower birthrate benefits men.

[–]Azuzu882 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never mention this on other subs, you'll never hear the end of it

[–]Friendlyfire810223 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Notice that the guest or the guy in the orange dress don't mention men once in the whole video.

[–]alexanderthegroovy24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Men aren't part of the discussion anymore. Everything is about women - unless it's who to blame.

[–]SlowJellyfish12 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Men aren't part of the discussion anymore.

Hahahahhahah... lets see how well that works out for women trying to get kids...

[–]the-lone-squid1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They can easily get knocked up with tinder

[–]SlowJellyfish11 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then why aren't they :-) fertility rates continue to decline...

[–]the-lone-squid0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because they don't want kids

[–]HiredNote4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Notice that the guest or the guy in the orange dress

Older women: if their personalities aren't bad enough, it's the fact that many don't even physically look like women anymore.

[–]Azuzu880 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guy in the orange dress did but only in passing when talking about women or men that were having trouble conceiving.

[–]DannyTTT5521 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious about America. Is there absolutely no state that isn't completely going to steam roll men

[–]bonethugsgoat30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Nope, I live in Texas and it's fucked, I'm sure you're aware of that one case where a mother was allowed to change her 7 year old son's gender, if TEXAS allows that kind of shit then America is fucked. Last I heard was that Ben Abbott stepped in though, don't know what happened ever since.

[–]AKchesterton9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Texas isnt a deep red state though, it's more purple. Would that transgender shit really have flown in alabama or mississippi??

[–]rocko2000217 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I dunno about that, but I hear redneck men are pretty cucked, or at least that's my impression after listening to country music and running into redneck gals

[–]AKchesterton7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's being cuked then there's being a degenerate sjw.

[–]bonethugsgoat1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol true, most definitely not.

[–]NathanHollister1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Firstly, Texas is quite red. It's about 60% red. That's not purple. The dems haven't won any statewide races there in 40 years.

And yes, the state always puts women ahead of men. A deep red state may have different reasons for doing so, but they will still fuck men as hard as they can. TBH they might have stopped the transgender thing, but dad still would not have any rights. If you never get to see your kid it doesn't matter if he gets to be a normal boy or his mom makes him a tranny.

[–]RegiusGeralt4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Lucky she failed at that BS.

[–]DWShimoda3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hate to be the one to tell you this, but the "jury remains out" on that schtick.

The kid has definitely been "fucked with"... and only time will tell whether or not she actually succeeded in f'ing him over.

[–]MadLad20191 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

While you are correct, the kid has stated he wants to go school and be called by his boy name and be recognized as a boy. But his mother still has custody, just not full custody to approve gender reassignment on her own.

[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While you are correct, the kid has stated he wants to go school and be called by his boy name and be recognized as a boy.

Or... so the father has (mis?)led everyone to believe.

But his mother still has custody, just not full custody to approve gender reassignment on her own.

Ayah, and precisely WHAT will happen to her if/when she doesn't "obey"?

Answer: [crickets]

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[–]bonethugsgoat1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank goodness

[–]Octoxo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not over. The mom has joint custody and makes him wear girl clothes when taking care of him.

[–]SlowJellyfish12 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So basically, the kid will grow up and hate his mom.

[–]johntdaly70 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How are the situations out in Utah or Idaho? I think Utah has one of the highest porn usages, which is a red flag, but being away from a lot of civilization should tame those girls a bit, ideally. I’m scared to get married, I don’t want to, but I really want kids. Ideally might come up with some kind of arrangement if the woman isn’t insane, but I have low hopes

[–]squeegypeegy0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m kinda in the same boat. I’m looking into surrogacy to have kids that won’t be at risk of having their birthright stolen by some woman. All because I don’t β€œmake her feel special anymore.”

Also North Dakota might be a good place to live, but I dunno I’m just some potato on the Internet.

[–]r800114 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

If we do, sooner or later they will have to find out the reasons WHY is it happening and change the fucked up gynocentric marriage laws.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

They're just going to blame men. Just as Japan does for the declining birth rate, lack of marriages, "herbivore men", etc.

[–]r80018 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

They can't keep on doing it forever. Same as they can't force us to make children. At first they will try a lot of hideous ways to do it, but eventually they will be forced to understand the root of a problem.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Historically, that's not really true though right? I mean, historically if there is a problem with the fabric of society then it ends the civilization and some other group moves in to take its place. Or the civilization just becomes weak enough that it's easy enough to be conquered and the same happens anyway.

[–]r80015 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah, I guess this is also an option. And I believe western Europe is already well on it's way to this scenario. Not sure about USA, since I'm from eastern Europe.

[–]alexanderthegroovy5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is an interesting question. Normally history repeats itself, but with technology/globalism we've reached a point that is unlike any other time.

We are learning that what is good for society is not good for us. So either there will be a mass form of censorship which attempts to hide these facts (like China) or we progress to a new form of society where there's even more freedom and less responsibility.

Either way we're fucked.

[–]SlowJellyfish10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Either way we're fucked.

How are we "fucked"? People live around 70-105 years. A lot of us will be dead. Those that are young or just being born; it will just be all they know -- status quo. Look at london. It use to be all white; it's changed and now "it is what it is".

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If fertility rate continue to fall, then so be it. If they don't care to find a solution, so be it.

[–]alexanderthegroovy0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant us as in society, but yes.

[–]alexanderthegroovy2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, it's always easier to have a scapegoat than take responsibility for your problems.

Women have no ability to introspect.

[–]PipBoyTInkerer2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Europe's answer is to massively import 3rd world refugees (ie economic migrants) and sacrifice their culture and heritage. As a western male, you're being used and the fruits of your labors will be handed off, then you'll be discarded.

[–]ChadLadPronouns0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was not Europe's answer. The plan to destroy Europe was written down after wolrd war 1 by a man they now call the father of the European Union. Google the kalergi plan and take the biggest redpill of your life.

[–]teslaistheshit1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

change the fucked up gynocentric marriage laws.

Won't happen in mine or my sons lifetime. Too much money on the line.

Best strategy is just not commit to the state.

[–]Electronic_Record10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

veritas

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[–]jkarovskaya2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Unless her Social Security check was gotten after divorce (and tied to her husband's pre-divorce income ) she's getting very little money

SS monthly distributions (in the USA) are taken from the 10 year period of your life in which you made the most money, so if you never worked and paid in steadily , you're getting a very low amount per month.

A friend of mine worked mostly for cash and under the table type jobs, and all he's getting is $200 a month because he never paid much into the fund with FICA deductions.

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[–]jkarovskaya2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, all based on her husband's income

[–]jkarovskaya2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason that Social Security fund is in trouble by 2035 is because our Congress & Presidents keep robbing it to try and offset the TRILLION DOLLAR budget deficits

The supposed "fiscal conservatives" of both parties have let our national debt and yearly deficits get completely out of control, so now the USA spends $389 BILLION a year just on interest on the national debt

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2018/11/we-will-soon-be-spending-more-on-national-debt-interest-than-on-these-vital-programs

[–]ChadLadPronouns-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Social security is bankrupt. It will be gone within a generation once the boomers have bled the millennials and zoomers dry.

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[–]jkarovskaya-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Humans love to invent religions and over time they tend to get embedded in culture as the touchstone of reality for millions, in spite of zero scientific evidence for their belief system

The mythology that evolves from those religions always gets corrupted by the grifters (Falwell, Creflo Dollar, Graham, Joel Osteen, Paula White) who use it for their own enrichment and for political power

[–]Redhood6167 points8 points9 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I imagine we’ll be seeing more women attempt and fail to get pregnant in their 30s and 40s going forward. They have this strange idea that because they believe something it magically makes it true. Acting like your 30s are the new 20s doesn’t change biology.

Btw im strictly talking about those women that focus on their careers and have been on birthcontrol since they were 18. Single moms will keep hopping from dick to dick and popping out a couple kids along the way.

[–]ScottieG867 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's such a shame, guys. All my life I wanted more than a loving family of my own. I never had much of one as a child or teenager. I'm 33 now and it depresses me so much. I envy the fuck outta our great grand parents.

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am 30. I feel yer pain. Your grandfather had authority and the last word in the family bro.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT SIR. Please do realize you have a LIFE of your own to take care of and live to the fullest.

[–]ScottieG862 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do quite alright for meself, laddy. I just wish I had loved ones to feel truly complete. We be a social species but the powers above seem to do everything they can to destroy what was once had. aaarg. Down with the system. I say it be time we loot and plunder.

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You could make yourseleves complete without any other person sir. NATURE around you, landscapes, skylines, things, objects, everything could make you happy.

If you really want more ? Get a pet dog. He will love you for the rest of his life.

[–]LuvJoyMuzik5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would run a million miles from these females.... disgusting and disrespectful women...... Even if they last women on the planet, no way would I bless them with my seed.

I'm just keeping myself to myself, improvement is a must. Beer and popcorn moments will be plentiful, Watching these feminists dry up while pulverisation ravages them before the wall bangs them up like a judge banging the gavel in court.πŸΏπŸΊπŸ»πŸ§Ÿβ€β™€οΈ

[–]DWShimoda5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Technically... it's the "live birth rate" that is declining.

Much more than the "fertility rate."

And your diatribe against the "God, Country & Family BS"... is entirely misplaced.

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why is it misplaced ?

[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why is it misplaced ?

Because it's a misapplication of the "cause & effect."

"God, Country & Family" (or whatever order you want to put those in)... is MUCH -- we're talking centuries here -- much older than the [relatively recent] "cuckservative" BS about/around them.

The fact that someone who is in the wrong MISquotes those things, doesn't make those things "wrong."

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do we have the same authority over our family which our ancestors used to have ???

That's a shortpoint and since we don't have that, then its not misplaced in my view , but whatever. We all can agree to disagree.

[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do we have the same authority over our family which our ancestors used to have ???

Nope, not in our [current year] society.

That's a shortpoint and since we don't have that, then its not misplaced in my view , but whatever. We all can agree to disagree.

Ah, but that is PRECISELY my point: societies "change" -- and then the change reverts/inverts -- and a new/different (yet also "same") society appears.

Blaming & discarding "God, Country & Family" -- especially when THAT is EXACTLY what those who are pushing the very things that are negating it -- is a fool's bargain.

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who is negating it ?

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[–]41ph41 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well, technically, it is our fault. Instead of maintaining authority over our children(wives and offspring), we have allowed this decline to happen. Remember, if a group has all the power, then gives it to others without them earning it, it's that groups fault that everyone fails. So our great grandfathers and grandfathers have all given this power to a group of children who did not earn it. Throughout history you will see groups of women, or even just a single woman or 2, who did their part in adding to the great intellect, or to war. But as a whole, women have shown completely that they are incapable of adding to the great intellect or to giving to the world anything other than child rearing and some mild chores at home. Now, they aren't capable of that either. completely worthless, while trying to act like men, fail at it, and blame men for their failure. It is our fault, for not giving them a proper test as a group of whether they were capable of such responsibilities in the first place. So yeah, it's our fault. But not because it's hard for them and society is failing, but letting go of those responsibilities in the first place.

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[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its already too little too late.

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[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GYOW mate.

[–]Hellveron1402 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how many people know how to hunt & grow their own food assuming this continues because most people will die due to societal collapse if this trend continues.

[–]jacketguy1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i didnt grow up labeled as a conservative .. but i am pro God πŸ˜›

[–]VagabondLonewolf[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well i was , still i am. But living a monk life now.

[–]lopied10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

especially GOD, that fake motherucker who has "murdered" MILLIONS

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