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[–]Count_Morrel12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do some research on appropriate and applicable skills and get stuck in while to grit your teeth. I left a toxic work environment due to a Narc Female Manager. I hope you get your skills up and prosper.
[–]GreenLava950 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's it im phoning HR
[–]Exactly_what_I_think14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
If you have marketable skills climbing the company ladder is BS. Loyalty does not pay in a modern society.
Moving to a new company after at least a year will allays keep your pay higher.
[–]LuigiC1730 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
we live in the indeed society, thirty years at one gig is dead for the most part
[–]DeathtotheCavalry0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Loyalty doesn't not pay in a modern society.
Bingo. You can be a top performer, yet most companies will still not care about you in the end. Even the allegedly "great places to work" on US News are like that.
[–]Wide-Brick9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I didn't read the article (yet) just responding to the title. You know it's time to leave when it's overrun by women from top to bottom. Actually, when you see women get put into positions of power, THATS the beginning of the End.
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[–]Wide-Brick1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah...cucked, slimy, feminist men that adapt to the current system to survive and thrive. I've watched as they've put knives in the back of good decent men to get rewarded for it. It's maddening...9 times out of 10 they do it for their superior (s) 8 times out of 10 - it's a woman.
[–]verhovniPan4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm in a dead end job with no way up the ladder in my company.im seriously considering quitting and going to a trade school
[–]Bokulence3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you have all the reason to move on.
I usually stay 2-3 years before i move on.
Or when drama starts. I worked 2 companies before started my own. I don't want to be below anyone.
[–]no_one_special_too2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When the only positive thought about work is "better than nothing but not by much". As opposed to the beginning when you were at least slightly excited about going in.
Most places require a two week notice of quitting. Time your two weeks close to the date your manager leaves.
[–]usnraptor2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How about going with the boss?
[–]Iqbal408627152 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you get a female boss. It’s a duality in their minds that just leads to disaster.
They think they want to be in charge. Feministas and the media promote this you go girl culture.
At the same time they hate and resent people under them. My old boss hated a guy I know for trying to take charge and lead a meeting when she didn’t talk.
Plus they can hit you with a false pound me too allegation at any time
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[–]Goaliej1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've done this many times. I always do a weighted (-5 to 5) pro and con list for staying and a weighted (-5 to 5) pro and con list for staying. Then add your totals for each of the two (staying and leaving). If the number for leaving is significantly higher than the number for staying then it's time to make a transition plan to another job. I'm currently looking myself and as soon as I find something that I'm interested in then I will make my pros and cons lists and go from there. This might also help in your situation: https://www.mynextmove.org/explore/ip
[–]slamdunktiger861 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ask your boss for a letter of recommendation, save that, make copies.
This is a tough economy to find new work, but doable.
Don’t quit till you have multiple offers in hand. MULTIPLE.
I had one offer get pulled once right before I quit my job because they lost a major customer.
Good luck bro.
Keep your head down, don’t make waves and keep doing what you’re doing.
[–]bakedphilosopher1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My old boss told me an interesting way of looking at it: if you can earn $10,000 more, to work in a miserable environment, it's not worth it. Better earn less, but work in a warm environment.
[–]bakedphilosopher0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree, that same boss ended up going from my mentor to a nightmare.
I left the corporate world, and now I throw garbage for the city. No boss, no stress. Look into civil service jobs. Especially if you have education. You can get a job like mine, and because you're educated they put you in an office, then groom you for promotions.
Basically if you have education, go for test based civil service jobs, with few requirements. Right off the bat you're a big fish in a small sea. Im going back to school in the fall for just this reason
Best of luck bro!
[–]LuigiC1731 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
i'll just say as a veteran food bev mgmt professional don't choose cooking unless you like long hours, grueling shifts, shit days off, and difficulty aligning a social life. Now this isn't to say in time you can gain the advantage in negotiations but that'll take a decade of resume building. I have that now so it's much better, any new gig prospect with my resume, I call the shots as far as pay, hours, time frame, etc. If they want elite talent and not shit they comply alas you'll have to pay your dues and it's rough. Please consider these words of advice if you pursue cooking, it is not a wonderful life overall.
[–]LuigiC1730 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
this industry will introduce you to every personality in the world and if you don't have a thick skin get out. I was fat in my youth starting out and my Spanish counterparts name for me was Gordo, I was never once called by my actual name by them.
A big thing is keeping the future in mind, when i was late teens early twenties, night shift wasn't an issue but as I aged through my late twenties I became a morning person and despise night shifts. I am fortunate to have a gig now where nights are few and far between alas these are things school won't teach you.
Only do the cooking route if you are truly passionate about it. I went to school intending to be a chef and I have never once worked a back house position after college. Things can change quick as far as what you want, this is a safe industry as far as gaining employment not considering current pandemic era as competition isn't vast in comparison to wanting to be a teacher, astronaut, etc. DO NOT GO TO A PRIVATE COLLEGE GO IN STATE PUBLIC UNI, I bold that because this was the smartest decision of my life saving me so much $$.
All in all if you're heart set by all means just be aware it is a rough road in the beginning whilst paying your dues, I feel obligated as a veteran to inform anyone who wants in of the perils at hand.
[–]liaisonguy1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Consider leaving a job when conditions turn against you, so you wouldn't accept the same job if you were applying for it. The reasons include low pay, coworkers that make you miserable over weeks and months, a new boss or new policies that make you miserable, or poor reward for hard work. You've encountered multiple reasons to leave. Be sure to consider whether you can find a better job before you quit or announce your intention to quit. It's always better to have a new job waiting before quitting your present job. That may not be possible during the covid shutdown.
[–]mirrormantra0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I had a very similar situation last year. My job was okay, then a bunch of people left. The job started to grind on me more and more. My boss was a great guy, ex-military, but eventually even he had enough and handed his notice in. The company has been gradually getting worse over the past year.
I’d already been looking for a new job at this point but my boss handing his notice in was the final nail. So, it sounds like you already know.
For me, the fear of staying in my job became much worse than the fear of leaving. Once I realised this it was clear as day. It took me about 6 months to find something good and I managed to get a job working for the government, I had to take a slight pay cut and turn down a payrise, but the benefits are great at the new place and I’d rather be working my way up in a better environment than stuck in that place hating life.
Looks like you’ve already decided brother, just keep positive, because once you decide you’re done with your job, it will get a lot harder to tolerate the bullshit whilst you’re still there. I had some seriously dark depressed days, feeling like I was never gois to get out of that place. But now I’m so much happier, this job is 10x better and I can pursue by passions and hobbies in my spare time without dreading going to work.
Trade school is a very good shout. There will always be demand for those skills as a long as society is still a functioning thing, and you also have a great opportunity to become self-employed.
So think about what you want to do for a living, in my experience it needs to be something you feel is an asset to society (trade school for sure) and try to avoid jobs that feel overwhelmingly pointless, it’s not good for the soul.
Believe in yourself and be confident, you will find something better, all the best!
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