I've posted guys on many female populated subs, some average, some above, and some far above. All these men are at least in good shape and are not below average or ugly by any stretch of the imagination yet hardly any woman has found them attractive. Many guys here may shitpost and troll but at the end of the day the day I feel like we are fairly reasonable in our ratings as far as attractivness goes. This isnt an incel rant, I just woman want to admit attractive guys are rarer than a hens teeth, and no it's not because men are fat that's only in America and the UK and maybe a few other western countrys, so you cant use that excuse. Being attractive as a man is truly up to genetics; a luck of the draw.