How else are we supposed to make things fair and balanced?

Sage_Planter · 2020-07-18T03:42:52+00:00

tl;dr Many men define "equality" as women taking on half of traditional male roles and responsibilities (chase the man, work full-time, pay the bills, save for retirement, etc.) without men taking on traditional female roles (cleaning the house, taking care of the kids, grocery shopping, etc.).

My biggest problem with modern relationships is how women are now expected to be equal financial contributors, but there's still an expectations that they take on the bulk of emotional labor, domestic duties, and child rearing. To top it off, we're the ones who have to take on the burden of pregnancy and childbirth, both of which have negative impacts on our careers. We've been fighting for equality in the workplace but somehow still get stuck with the bulk of responsibilities in the home, and to me, it almost feels like we're in an even worse spot when it comes to marriage.

Go on relationship or parenting subreddits, you read countless tales of fed up women who work 9:00-5:00, pay half the bills, then come home to men who sit around and expect to be taken care of. All these men whine about how they want women who are equals, but then don't want to do their share of the work. These men complain about being exhausted by their jobs or exhausted by "babysitting" their kids.

Sekina7 · 2020-07-18T02:42:38+00:00

Simply put -FDS minded women are immune to their bullshit and they know WE know the truth of who really holds all the cards. AND most males on PPD are sexless, basic freaks who have serious vagina envy, sociopathy and/or are on the spectrum. Don't take ANY of it seriously because their cognitive dissonance will give you whiplash!

2020-07-18T03:24:54+00:00

Your phrasing, “in this day and age” suggests that gender relations are vastly different than in the past. Imo all I see is the same old tired 💩💩💩repackaged for a new generation. Same shit, new day with new and improved villains.

tamarindoseco · 2020-07-18T09:41:54+00:00

Men say FDS is evil because they understand how benefitial it is for women, and not only when it comes to dating. Realistically, FDS is THE advice men give to their daughters - but imagine if the majority of women actually followed it? That would raise the standards for men a lot, and that's what they hate so much.

_boring_daven_ · 2020-07-18T08:20:49+00:00

Well. We need more women in power. Then we can fight more easily for our rights (like to choose). White men only care about other white men and the fires under their asses (when lit by the people).

Boys in school need to be taught more about how the female body works. It has to be done right so that they can’t be ignorant shits that claim discharge means you’re cheating (or whatever that bs is). Ideally it would involve multiple choice questions AND written questions as well as myth vs fact stuff. That’s a basic way to ensure they actually learn with the least cost.

Women need to be more represented in history in schools. It’s easy to feel important when the history book is filled with people who look like you (an average male). Instead of going over Columbus every damn year it could be one slide in history class before learning about multi-racial and/or female historical figures (lesser and well-known).

hhgjj0 · 2020-07-18T14:36:25+00:00

Men are entitled and think they deserve a woman who would live to serve them and meet their needs, and would have no life on herown.

This is expressed by:

A) they feel entitled to woman's time. If he makes advances and she does not respond, he gets pissy or even violent.

B) in a relationship or marriage, he will expect her to cook, clean, give up her career in order to have more time to take care of kids (because he sees it as her responsibility), etc. In general, her goals and dreams will be second to his and she will be the one expected to compromise. Because he feels entitled to her labor.

C) in a relationship or marriage, he will expect her to serve his sexual needs, coercing her to have sex even if she doesn't feel like it or if there's a reason why she cannot do it (she's in pain, she's still healing after childbirth, etc). He will also expect her to do any sexual acts he desires, or he will consider cheating (search r/askMen, there was a thread "why do you cheat", people where pushing "you cannot expect one partner so satisfy 100% of your needs", which proves that men indeed expect their partners to cater to their every need, without giving any consideration to the partners' needs, for example, a need to not be put through an emotional trauma, such as being cheated on).

D) if he's a fuckboy, he will expect some woman to cater to his sexual needs without commitment, for which he will use tricks and lies or will try to talk someone into agreeing to no string attached sex. It's very common, that if a man is looking for a FWB, and you say no thanks, he still tries to change your mind and talk you into it.

FDS teaches women to put their needs first so they would not fall for any of this and end up being a servant. After all, we deserve to have our life and follow our dreams and goals too. A relationship should be build on mutual effort and compromise, and provide mutual benefit.

And of course, not all men are like that, but most of them fall into at least of the listed categories.

OrchidLion · 2020-07-18T15:21:21+00:00

"How else are we supposed to make things fair and balanced?"

We're not. That's their point. They're not interested in fair or balanced. They're interested in taking advantage and getting easy pussy with little to no effort.

Their whole game is fucking as many women as possible. They can't do that if we have standards.

The greatest imbalance is one of respect. At the end of the day males still think women are inferior in one way or another and deserve less respect. That's the root cause of it all.

Verysoftbun · 2020-07-19T21:01:41+00:00

Basically until everything is economically fair and women have advocacy over themselves it can't be fair. And men should make up for the differences in the meantime.

Title	How else are we supposed to make things fair and balanced?
Author	Rowbloks
Upvotes	12
Comments	10
Date	July 17, 2020 9:41 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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