I feel so angry about my financial situation.

Goaliej · 2021-03-29T00:59:25+00:00

Life's not fair - stop expecting it to be. Some of your options: 1. Start your own business. 2. Transfer to an employer that pays you more. 3. Reduce your hours to part time to invest more time enjoying life by pursuing what you truly enjoy doing.

lordlivingston · 2021-03-29T01:09:18+00:00

Get a job as a secretary

Ban-circumvention · 2021-03-29T01:21:02+00:00

Your escape is to renounce material/maternal goods. You are trapped by your belongings. Get rid of them and minimize. Living in a van/rv/truck is an extremely reasonable option

Organic_Principle772 · 2021-03-29T01:32:14+00:00

Your biggest mistake is thinking their lives are great. You mention that after taxes you make what they make. Well, they pay taxes too although less than you obviously. They are also women which means they pay for everything to be done for them. They also overpay for everything. They also spend on pointless luxury.

If you think your life is tough, imagine how being a basically broke chick with your entire body telling you it's about to expire at 35 feels.

brainenfuego · 2021-03-29T01:41:04+00:00

Stop bitching about what they do and they make. Who cares??? Basketball players play the same game professionally, some make $10m, some make $30m. It’s about what you bring to the table. If you feel like you’re worth more, then become the guy who gets paid more.

_sadboyloko · 2021-03-29T00:56:20+00:00

Invest your money and watch your money make you more. Max your 401K if your employer offers one.

laughterOnIce · 2021-03-29T01:02:33+00:00

Imo you should save up your money and look for ways invest and have other streams of income and hopefully you won't have to work as a software engineer to make a living.

Also, don't compare yourself to someone else, just do you.

classic-user_1 · 2021-03-29T02:22:07+00:00

And I see no way to ever succeed in life unless I turn to crime and do whatever it takes to make money (illegally)

Please don't you ever say something like this here again, they will use this against the MGTOW subreddit as this is what men preach here. This is why r/MGTOW got quarantined and almost banned in the first place.

they will come here, screenshot the bad part of your comment, and then say : "Look, i told you, guys from MGTOW are terrorists".

iseedeer · 2021-03-29T02:58:44+00:00

I'm in a similar boat, comfy niche of STEM that is being taken over by the woke mob.

I hate to say it bro, but as bad as things are, they are going to get worse. The powers that be have decided to take aim at all professions that have decent earnings and are male dominated. That means software, among others.

Expect soon to stress out not only about getting your work done, but also that of the blue-haired diversity hire who knows nothing, and who you now need to carry. The new woke term is 'affirmative team building'. You can well imagine what that means...

The only 'out' I see is reduce your expenditures to the point where you don't need to hold a job that has been targeted by the woke mob. Make sure you own your car and home if at all possible, stay out of debt.

It is very hard to resist the government bully once he has decided he wants your lunch money. Perhaps the best thing is to transfer to a different school district.

theoracleofosiris · 2021-03-29T05:17:44+00:00

Seriously. Leave. Come to Singapore. We appreciate talent and hard work (for now).

dirtymgtow · 2021-03-29T13:00:30+00:00

Why are you working so hard and getting so little in return?

That's your fault, not women's.

You do you. But what you're doing is crazy.

prinseofpersia · 2021-03-29T01:46:27+00:00

I relate to you especially since I'm work in a similar role with similar hours. Like others have said, we need to find other jobs that pay better. Not only that, that 20-30h of extra studying is not necessarily needed. If it is, it is all the more reason to move companies or try entrepreneurship.just a thought

mgtowinvestor · 2021-03-29T02:11:18+00:00

buy crypto , live/work in thailad or other country etcc

lordlivingston · 2021-03-29T10:21:37+00:00

Here's a little story for ya.

I was born in South India, brought up abroad but that's irrelevant.

Back in my hometown, there are hindu temples where they have domesticated elephants that are kept there for ritual purposes. These elephants are often fed well and kept comfortable with all their needs taken care of, they often have their own doctors to take care of them and special ambulances designed specifically for them, the whole 9 yards.

But elephants are known to be self aware creatures, so your next question would be this: why don't they leave? Don't they yearn for freedom? Isn't that what matters the most to any self aware creature?

My answer is, yes of course. Most of them do want to be free, deep inside.

In fact it's very easy for them to escape, they are big, their mahouts have little in the way of protection, and all they have to do is just run away and not many would try to stop them since the first protocol in such events is just to let them go before they cause more damage. The elephants are surprisingly quick too so there's that.

But here's why they don't leave:

Chains. Yeah that's it.

They use really small cast iron chains that are tied to the elephant's legs, but the other ends aren't tied to anything else. The chains just sort of drag along the feet of the elephant and dont do anything.

But the sound that the chains make while they drag, and the presence of the chains themselves is enough to destroy their spirit and deter them from wanting to leave.

Combine this with the fact that they live in what is essentially the lap of luxury for a wild animal, who would want to leave?

The reason why I'm saying this, is because you, my friend, also have chains dragging along your feet, telling you that you're trapped and a slave and that you should stay.

The reality is that there's nothing, absolutely nothing stopping you from leaving your socialist free-handouts-for-women country and starting over someplace where they actually pay you what you're worth.

Sure it's not easy, but it certainly does beat working with a bunch of women who do nothing. If you really are a specialist as you claim, a multinational company based in a more capitalist, tax-friendly country would scoop you up like an ice cream sundae.

It won't be an instant change, it will be a hard journey, but now that you're MGTOW, what's stopping you from taking the leap and making it work?

I'd say work hard, finish whatever you're studying and make plans to leave your country and stick to them.

alienmuseum · 2021-03-29T00:57:34+00:00

Put whatever money you have into bitcoin and other promising projects in crypto. By the way, which currency are we talking about?

StarchRunner · 2021-03-29T02:18:47+00:00

If you are as good and motivated as you say you are, cut notions of loyalty and jump ship for a boat carrying less dead weight.

Inside-Party · 2021-03-29T03:06:12+00:00

Everything here is good, I wanted to mention that you might look into stoicism/stoic philosophy. It might help change your perspective on a positive way.

LongTimeOn · 2021-03-29T04:26:29+00:00

It's not about what you earn, it's about quality of life and having enough spare cash to live comfortably. I used to know a female lawyer who earned massive $ compared to me, however she carried a huge amount of debt, student loans, store cards, credit cards, car loan, mortgage...so much so that she barely had any free cash and lived paycheck to paycheck.

I had a small flat, drove a old car (fully paid off), had no debt at all. My free cash per month was 20x what she had free per month, which I saved and invested.

Women are the quintessential BBD purveyors (bigger better deal), they always have to have MORE and struggle to be satisfied. Men seem more able to be content with what they need, not what they want.

You can bet those female secretaries blow all their cash on clothes, handbags, shoes etc...not one of them is investing it or planning long-term for the future.....why would they, they expect to land a rich husband who'll pay for them eventually.

Proof-System · 2021-03-29T05:31:27+00:00

Relocate. There are cheap and incredibly non-woke countries still out there. Try Ukraine. Earn $50k working remote from there and drink vodka with local shady business men, I mean be reasonable and careful, but you feel like a low level oligarch at times. You will be a legit low level oligarch when you get your income up to $200k and live in a Kiev penthouse.

IfYouBanIllMakeNew · 2021-03-29T05:41:40+00:00

Only you know your value, OP. You tolerate low pay and high hours because you don't see the value in yourself. Do something about it. I would suggest updating your resume and looking for a new job.

h1_flyer · 2021-03-29T06:22:25+00:00

Nobody promised you that life would be fair. Getting upset about this only makes your own life miserable. Focus on what you do have. There are so many affordable hobby's that gives a lot of satisfaction. Women don't have cheap hobby's, they usually don't have hobby's at all.

clayticus · 2021-03-29T09:47:49+00:00

Work for the government and chill like them? Or at least work 40 hours.
Find a new employer.

The good news when there is an economic or governmental collapse they will be screwed and you'll be in top.

prelude12342000 · 2021-03-29T02:04:13+00:00

work as a contractor, not as a perm employee. you'll make 30% more at least.

clarkkent1001 · 2021-03-29T03:26:12+00:00

You have made good progress. The first step is realizing that the world around you is fake and rigged. Wageslaving is only a means to an end. You do not need a better wageslave job. You need to reduce your expenses and learn more about how the system is rigged against you. Once you learn how it is rigged against you, you can exploit it. Just like a backdoor to a network, you can manipulate the matrix around you. Some below are on the right track. Save, invest, learn. Look what media/outlets/maintstream internet tell you do do and do the opposite, just to see and learn how the system works. Soon you will learn why crypto is important, why smart contracts are important, how to invest your money and get to the point where you are making more in investments daily than your wageslave job. Soon you won't need that job, or care what anyone else around you does or says. You will spend your days subverting a system designed to keep you a slave. Good luck, John Wick.

massy525 · 2021-03-29T03:56:29+00:00

Everything you said is correct. Now what are you gonna do about it. It got this way cause of weak men.

ObeseTurkey · 2021-03-29T07:51:33+00:00

What country is this so I can add it to the list of countries to avoid.

2021-03-29T08:06:28+00:00

Change the letter M to F on your driver licence, then sue them for discrimination if they don't pay you more for less work.

Honkworld69 · 2021-03-29T09:08:04+00:00

Dude, it's a joke of a society but what you need to realise is at the end of it all, those ladies aww hypergamous, narcissistic and entitled. I would laugh even more if these women were given higher paying jobs with less work because it guarantees they're going to the grave single, angry and lonely. When their government job ends, they're going to be without any skills, without experience and wondering where all the good men went.

Trust me, these women are going to get beta simps to save her or she's dying alone because she wants a man that earns way more than her and she expects this man has had an easy life like her, so she's even more entitled.

grassbladeX · 2021-03-29T10:26:31+00:00

Hi man, move from a high pressure employer to a better one. If you are staying with an asshole employer because you want their brand name on your resume, the first step is to admit that you are the reason they exploit young kids like you. You have my sympathy, but luckily, you're in a field with a lot of options, so hope you make a better choice.

ActOutside4853 · 2021-03-29T11:37:22+00:00

Start your own business, pay yourself what you can make.

That way, you get exactly what you deserve, and women become irrelevent.

nplusultra · 2021-03-29T12:26:19+00:00

You could migrate to a country where your skills count more. Just don't know right now where that should be. Maybe Switzerland?

hypnotized · 2021-03-29T13:09:07+00:00

If you get angry you go deeper into it.

Doubt those negative thoughts.

You make many well thought out points.

You are capable of great things.

Obermarschall · 2021-03-29T16:35:31+00:00

Perhaps you could try living in a cheaper country?

closer_1 · 2021-03-29T18:14:23+00:00

Move to a lower tax country

sacandbaby · 2021-03-29T19:11:26+00:00

I always made less than my coworkers. Not sure why. I saved and invested and retired at 54. I wonder how many of them retired that early.

Soggytp · 2021-03-29T20:43:39+00:00

Be one of the secretaries. Problem solved.

mnight75 · 2021-03-29T22:01:16+00:00

Move to a country where the value of your work is better appreciated.

CodeDiscombobulated1 · 2021-03-29T18:28:56+00:00

ive been in a similar position

quit my desk job, became a mailman, invested as much as i could afford in crypto

now living a simple lifestyle in a small and cheap flat, didnt even bother to buy a bed, just sleeping on a matress on the floor

Oh and crypto gains just keep comming

Fck working a desk job, ill retire on my cryptos and until then i will work the perhaps easiest job in the world

Title	I feel so angry about my financial situation.
Author	haxuc
Upvotes	121
Comments	71
Date	March 29, 2021 12:52 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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