Ok, so no shortage of field reports here on TRP, and most of them have something to be learned, but too many of them end with shit like:"btw, I'm 6'5, 12% BF, 25 year old that looks like Chris Pine, but it was my incredible game and frame that got this chick!!!"

I'd like to open a discussion that doesn't seem to be brought up (or even acknowledged) much. That is, objectively ugly guys and the different types of strategies they must employ.

Now, let's start by acknowledging that every man does in fact have an SMV ceiling. There's no denying it.

If you look like DiCaprio or Don Draper, you are likely to get cold approached enough to where you simply have to speak in complete sentences and not shit your pants and you'll get opportunities for sex. You basically have looks that are almost universally considered attractive.

If you look like Nicholas Cage or Lyle Lovett, I don't care how ripped you are, you are very rarely if ever getting cold approached by girls. (Unless you ARE those guys)

Not only that, you have a whole host of issues to overcome. You have to not be creepy (not an issue for "hawt" guys), you have to not seem like a try hard. You have to have social proof (being good looking is automatic social proof) and you need to generate that "special something" to go from simply ugly to "sexy-ugly".

That brings me to my question for fellow physically unattractive guys, What is your persona and strategy?

Are you the life or the party with coke? Are you the world weary smart ass sipping a Scotch? Are you the hyper ambitious entrepreneur? Are you Mr positive? Are you the daddy?

Personally, I've had the most luck with Daddy game. That is, good girls wanting to just be dirty for a while. Since I'm not Chad, they don't really care about locking me down or introducing me to their friends and family.

Unfortunately, my confidence from being called ugly while growing up is something I still struggle with and it fucks me up. I try to internalize the confident older man frame but I seem to be only able to do it after a couple of drinks.

Of course once a couple of drinks turns into 4, my frame again falls apart.

Let's hear it Non-Chads ...