Why "learning" to become Alpha is total simp-level BS.

l1prophet · 2021-03-15T14:19:51+00:00

Learning to say, "No", to a woman is the most powerful thing a man can ever do.

Phantom_Spark · 2021-03-15T15:30:22+00:00

I disagree. Men are only born alpha when we’re in pre-civilization days. Because life today requires skills, talent, and other things.... Men are made. Not born.

This is a basic idea that most men understand. This is why women are born with value, yet a man has to build his value.

Now yea. Much of what you find online or anywhere is trash because they don’t want to mentor men. They want to make money.

But I would say I disagree with many men who appear to be what you traditionally think of as alpha. They do a lot of stupid things that destroy and unravel their lives instead of taking charge of their life.

But then again... an alpha man by definition is nothing more than a successful simp. He is successful in life and with women. But he still makes women the priority.

When was the last time you saw a so called Alpha man dictate the rules of a relationship (especially long term or married). It doesn’t happen right? Or they put up a front and then obey like a good little simp.

I can’t be bothered with any of it. Both are simply extremes. Neither is balanced and healthy.

So ultimately it’s the question you pose as the problem. I see alpha and simp as the same man. The only difference is one is successful. Take any alpha and throw failure at him. You won’t be able to tell that he’s an alpha anymore. He will look like any other simp. LOL

KilluaCute · 2021-03-15T14:26:24+00:00

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i_mann · 2021-03-15T19:15:59+00:00

Personally i believe the concept of the 'alpha male' was created by women to push men into competition with each other. This is how they start the race and pick the winners.

Being independent and not caring what others think doesn't make you an alpha, it makes you someone who refuses to race. That is the most powerful position to be in.

adam-l · 2021-03-15T15:53:19+00:00

Of course you can learn "Alpha". Alpha refers to the female perception, not the man per se. It's not ontological, as notions are in the male world, it refers to whether the female perceives you as worthy to fuck or not. Tick the right boxes, DGAF, and you can get there.

The trick is to do the things you enjoy, and which incidentally increase your SMV. Otherwise it's a drag.

Bri-70 · 2021-03-15T17:38:06+00:00

You can learn how to be a leader, that's what military academies do.

You can learn to be just about anything, but would you want to?

I have no desire to learn PUA or RedPill. A manipulated woman doesn't measure up to my minimum standards. I did read a book once on the matter and I tried some of the tactics. I was disgusted they fell for it.

I suppose it is something like the contempt women feel for men who just give them cash for no reason or sign up for their OF accounts and all the other places they take advantage of simps.

realChebz · 2021-03-15T17:19:59+00:00

Man that's some good shit.

simps Remastered™

hahaha.

Yes and 99% of people who claim they are alphas online are low-tier betas IRL. Alphas don't need to tell anyone they are "alpha". It's like the female comedian joke: "How do you know a woman is a comedian? She will tell you". Same with being "alpha" (whatever the fuck that means anyway, as everyone's definition is different, but always includes themselves for some reason).

OwenWentFullMGTOW · 2021-03-15T16:52:22+00:00

YES THIS! Take my upvote!

100% of the guys on YouTube who talk about "becoming an alpha" are betas who have found a good grift. Yes, even your favorite "become an alpha" YouTuber is a bottom-feeding nobody like all the other juice-peddling losers.

Either you're alpha or you're not. If you are, you don't talk about it. Because you don't have to. If you're not, nothing can fucking make you one.

Plus, this "become an alpha" thing totally ignores the purpose that betas (or simps or NPC's or whatever you want to call them) are supposed to serve. A pack can't be made up of alpha males. And a pack can't be led by a beta male. They need each other.

PS- There are other categories besides alpha and beta.

2021-03-15T17:35:56+00:00

I dislike the term "Alpha" as you pointed out those acting "alpha" bragging, throwing fist and let there emotions guide them are not even close to a true alpha male who is a leading character you look up to. Maybe it just shows outwardly if you choose the way of the light or darkness.

Learning game, acting tough and dominating other men and women to prove your alphaness is not what i consider to be a alpha male figure maybe in the animal world but we where elevated above that realm of existence . You can learn certain traits but if your foundation is not grounded you only wear a mask afraid to look into the mirror. Life shapes you one way or the other so choose the right hand path which is Truth, Righteousness, Love, Wisdom , Integrity , Fearlessness , Honesty, Kindness a live long journey .... Instead of the left hand path which is the opposite.

Josiah_is_dreaming · 2021-03-15T17:41:46+00:00

Okay sure I can prove you wrong.

The basis of your argument is that people have certain natures that allow them, or prohibit them from acting certain ways. But we all know that simply isn’t true, it isn’t science. There is no new, or Original idea under the sun, everything that people know is taught from somewhere.

If we were to look at your argument logically, you’re saying: Unless you’ve learned how to act like a man from your parents, then you’ll never learn it, and you’re beta for trying to learn.

And that’s not the Mgtow way is it?

Don’t even get me started on “Awakening” to it. Being “alpha” is a skill. It’s not like being tall or having a big dick. If you’re “alpha”, it means you were taught to act that way.

And if you were “beta”, it’s because you were also taught to act that way.

People are capable of changing, you’ve done it your whole life.

So instead of saying you’re either alpha or you’re not, instead say: “those men are not true alphas, because they’re motivated by women, instead of a desire to better.”

henrysmyagent · 2021-03-15T18:28:13+00:00

Keep on spinning that frame and maintaining those plates, Alpha-wannabees!

MGTOW is way easier with far fewer rules.

mythrowxra · 2021-03-15T19:05:17+00:00

Being alpha = Not caring what the rest of the PACK thinks and doing your own thing.

Aussie_Chart_Trader · 2021-03-16T02:12:08+00:00

I'd go one step further.

Men compete on the dominance hierarchy to improve their chances with women. 'Alphas' are near the top of that hierarchy, but their motivation is still women. They're as much of a slave to pussy as the betas below them.

Long story short, as long as you're competing on the dominance hierarchy, you're a beta.

Raider1FN · 2021-03-15T14:14:35+00:00

All I see here is a dude shaming other dudes for trying to better themselves. Does it matter how they come to the eventual conclusions. Every Man is different and if he has to fake it til he makes it. That's HIS way. You shouldn't shame any Man for waking up to the Blue Pill world. Why would you discourage any Man? You should encourage them, not shut them down because you decided that their way of growing and waking up is wrong, quit gatekeeping. This is a space for all MGTOW men. Not just the ones you decide are worthy of it.

DatRndmDude · 2021-03-16T04:52:53+00:00

Even though many men can not behave like alphas inherently, some men could have but they had no role model to teach them while they grew up. They either had a missing or uninterested father, and picked feminine traits from their mothers instead.

While I guess you can not learn to become alpha, you can rediscover what you have been born with, but have not unlocked yet.

starkfuture · 2021-03-16T16:31:15+00:00

I have parallel thoughts when YouTube auto plays some Donovan Sharp video and he starts talking about being alpha and holding frame and Devon (I assume that is his wife’s name) this and that. My only real thought before I switch to a different video is, just wait till her divorce option vests and she butt fucks you on the family court you simpanzee.

Title	Why "learning" to become Alpha is total simp-level BS.
Author	l1prophet
Upvotes	83
Comments	47
Date	March 15, 2021 2:05 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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