When do you think the red pill started its downfall.

Puzzled_Space1697 · 2021-06-26T22:55:51+00:00

When you realise none of their stuff works in real life.

PM_ME_DNA · 2021-06-27T01:12:32+00:00

When they started to make it nerd lingo, and looking at relationships only as a transactional behavior. When they started to subscribe to manipulation to maintain a relationship. If your goals are a fuckable maid with constant emotional toll to maintain her, then TRP is right for you. If you want something more then it's not.

RedPillDetox · 2021-06-27T01:19:11+00:00

It was doomed to it's downfall from the start. You don't expect a movement that spreads hate, conspiracy theories, negativity, brainwashing, wild empty promises, polarizing views and murky teachings regarding picking up women, politics and life and expect it to not turn into a complete clusterfuck. Obviously, plenty of people are gonna get hurt out of that situtation, like the guys they brainwash, the women they hate, etc. And those people are gonna eventually leave or expose the movement.

CommandoDooby · 2021-06-27T00:31:25+00:00

So I'm an early forties single male. I fell into the red pill when I was going through a horrible divorce. She cheated on me and ran up all my credit cards when I was deployed. However never bought into the red pill BS about women. I was looking for solutions to my issues when I came across them not a place to go for self loathing.

I still actually resemble what you would call MGTOW. However, it's not about women hating more of a realignment of how I define success. In my 20s I defined success as having children and a wife and a family. However after what happened and losing literally everything this was something I decided I could not be vulnerable to losing ever again which made me wonder what is the point of life if not for the desire of wife and children.

So I made a new goal of sailing around Cape Horn. I don't shun men or women away at work or in my personal life. I have several women approach me and ask me out at the church I go to or at work and I just thank them for the offer but politely decline. It's nothing personal my new goal is what matters to me.

That being said I am a trainer for my profession. I don't care if you are a man woman trans ect.... I will train whomever and give them equal attention or even more attention if they are struggling to pick up the concepts. What my ex-wife as an individual did has no bearing on an entire group.

Now yes I don't desire to be in a vulnerable situation like that again and honestly don't care about dating anymore but it's more than that. I have realigned my definition of success. The vision I have just no longer needs marriage or an intimate relationship to be obtainable.

So the question was when will the red pill die down. Just like any group or idea based on hate it will consume those that are ruled by fear, anger or hate (sorry to sound star warsy). Until these men can move through life with purpose even if it's not wife and children it will be around.

It's easier to blame a group than take accountability for yourself. I may fail in my endeavor to solo sail around cape horn. It may even kill me. However I can say I was never ruled by hate.

I don't have all the answers for some men the dream of a wife and children may be something they decide they can't go without. That's okay too, however they will never realize that dream and the extent it could be if they are ruled by hatred of it.

That's what the red pill sells and they do a wonderful job of it.

OneComfortable3508 · 2021-06-27T01:23:23+00:00

When it became the safe haven for the rejected, the bitter, the angry, and the and sexist.

BubbhaJebus · 2021-06-27T06:11:07+00:00

Red Pill is based on stereotypes and sweeping generalizations. When people get out in the real world, they discover that "Men are like this and women are like that" simply isn't true. Then they realize that the "red pill" they had chosen was actually a brilliant, blazing blue.

Affectionate_Let5501 · 2021-06-27T20:24:12+00:00

when you try to use the tactics on healthy woman it tends to have a strong correlation with failure an getting dumped

SadBox4529 · 2021-06-27T06:33:23+00:00

When Fresh & Fit blew up, when AMS crushed with the snow bunnies. When everything became about hurt dudes using women and body counts to boost their egos. When Redpill constantly used Patrice O’neals quotes for their own agenda even though the dude apologized to certain females personally for some of his obnoxious comments and even his close friend admitting a lot of their views of women stemmed from anger.

GothamnIt · 2021-06-27T07:52:43+00:00

I thought it would die out when it got tangled up with the far right dark enlightenment stuff. The subreddits biggest contributors were pushing race realism stuff for 4 years and I still wonder how no one talks about that.

bloodsports11 · 2021-06-27T17:20:59+00:00

It’s just the natural result of starting an ideology based on a crappy self-help book by a wannabe pick up artist. Also, the borderline cult behavior and nerdy lingo didn’t help

BuckeyeFan007 · 2021-06-27T00:15:45+00:00

Well I think the redpill and groups associated with the redpill have been in a downfall for quite a while after the murderous violence of Elliot Rodger and also Alek Minassian. These were guys who had misogynistic views which became deadly.

I think the violence is when people really started scrutinizing these particular groups and their hateful philosophies and that's why there's been such a large and increasing backlash against such groups.

And I am glad to see the backlash!!! I am very glad to see this subreddit along with other sub reddits that call out the misogyny.

I am also glad to see people speaking out against the redpill, mgtow and other misogynistic groups on youtube, in articles etc.

The more people speak out about the redpill the better.

newkobra87 · 2021-07-20T19:38:07+00:00

When a lot of them decided to go to extremes and literally confirm everything their critics said about them

Time_Sympathy_8088 · 2021-06-26T23:11:48+00:00

Serious question...is it in a downfall?

I tuned out about 2 months ago when I realized that this was just hurt men taking zero accountability for any of their actions. NONE. There was no reasonable discussion to be had, everything was AWALT and women are just sex objects that bring nothing to the table but their lady parts, but yet no one could answer what they want from a woman. When I would listen to KS and hear what a HVM was and it listed no morals or leadership qualities, only money and that I as a woman must tolerate cheating and emotionless relationships, I was done.

It was over for me when I realized no one was offering SOLUTIONS or talking about how people come with childhood/adult trauma that needs healing (on both sides). These men were not showing any examples of masculinity and leadership, qualities that a woman seeks in a relationship. These men are chasing after "baddies" with shitty personalities, ignoring every red flag, getting taken then saying all women are toxic. Their "solution" to their hurt and anger was to manipulate unsuspecting women into sex, driving up body counts that they love to shit on, producing children out of wedlock then saying "see how evil women are?!" They create the very dysfunction they think they are getting away from.

I think the RP men are comfortable in the rage stage. There is only so much negative energy one person can absorb.

Edit: I want to add I was always a traditional/conservative woman. I believe in marriage, loyalty, masculine and feminine. I see the world as it is and don't buy into the propaganda of the mainstream in society today. That's how I fell into TRP. I also care and respect men and believe they have rights, emotions, feelings that should be validated and much of the world doesn't see it that way. I saw my narcissistic cunt of a mother destroy my birth father (he committed suicide because she wouldn't let him see me when I was a baby) and almost killed my step dad, who I love with all my heart. I saw her take my brother and sister away from him and turn them against him. I see how 30 years later she refuses to drop child support liens against him, even though he is dying of kidney failure.

I see the nature of females and how society bends over backwards to accommodate them and how many women (NOT ALL) are trash human beings that take advantage of this. I see how women can hit men, cheat on them, accuse them of rape, have ridiculous double standards, take their kids away, take their property and money through divorce and society laughs at men while women play victim. This is abhorrent. But there are not many places you can speak the truth about this. Any real talk about toxic females is met with hate comments, banning and the like.

it would be nice to have a place where people can have HONEST discussions about life, create solutions, heal and grow.

ThrowawayMHDP · 2021-06-27T08:34:01+00:00

When they started to link up with far right activists and they were calling Covid a scam. This was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

Title	When do you think the red pill started its downfall.
Author	eliterule12
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Date	June 26, 2021 9:24 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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