In response to this article I felt was frankly just too disgusting to give a full reply to there: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ozxxfl/mra_has_a_pr_problem/

In summary it was the usual "we need to be nice to feminists" crap. And it's a common enough thought for many new people so normally I don't have a big problem with it and just try to patiently explain why it doesn't work and why MRAs do not in fact, have an imagine problem, and so we do not in fact have to lie or say shit like "we are feminists".

Being mean (to feminists) works. Being nice doesn't.

Why?

Well most obviously it's because if your message is that the other guy is wrong and nasty, you probably don't want to send the mixed message of pretending to like them. Feminists sure as hell don't. Feminism is a hate movement. It's the direct cause of much anti-male discrimination, sexist laws and apartheid. They deliberately promote negative stereotypes, historic revisionism and threat narratives targeting men.

We're not fucking buddies.

If you pretend to be their buddy you send the message "these people aren't so bad" which directly contradicts the facts were are trying to draw attention to. You tell that to feminists (giving them moral permission to continue hating men) and you tell that to non-feminists (making them think MRAs are somehow the equivalent of feminists). You promote the idea of a false symmetry.

Being mean achieves the opposite stuff -- highlights the immorality and hypocrisy of feminism. Generally many people say that negative sells better anyway but I won't argue that here.

Second reason: MRA is weak as a movement while feminism is strong. They literally control the media (or the media is controlled by their elitist ruling class allies). They eg have great influence on what subs get banned on Reddit as we know. They use this power to block MRAs getting out the message. This is a David vs Goliath situation. The solution is to use the classic Ju Jitsu (Akido?) idea of using the enemies power against itself. We get our message out through the feminist reaction to us. We say mean stuff, they react. Only their reaction gets out to most people. The feminists won't be provoked to react if we're nice. This is Osama bin Laden's policy vs USSR / USA. Force the more powerful player to over react to their own detriment. When feminists react to us and attack us that's how we win the most.

The meaner we are the more obvious they make their own evil in dismissing us.

Now I don't mean be mean with the facts, the facts are good. But don't let feminists off the hook by being their buddy. Smash their noses in those facts. Their reaction will be what people see and it will be .... the invasion of Iraq or whatever. It will make them look really bad. They'll go around saying kill all men even more or whatever. Feminist over reaction is our main means of getting the message out.

Also we're winning. 65% of South Korean young men are against feminism? 50% in the UK? Are any of the feminist boards as international as our board?