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Ad agency loses sex discrimination lawsuit after firing 5 men to fix their gender pay gap

SabrielRaziel

July 24, 2021
448 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.adweek.com/agencies/how-jwt-was-hit-with-and-lost-a-lawsuit-about-discriminating-against-men/
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Title Ad agency loses sex discrimination lawsuit after firing 5 men to fix their gender pay gap
Author

SabrielRaziel

Upvotes 448
Comments 20
Date July 24, 2021 11:55 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/or0ywz/ad_agency_loses_sex_discrimination_lawsuit_after/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/ad-agency-loses-sex-discrimination-lawsuit-after.823658
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Comments

[–]BaconCatBug 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mr Bayfield told MailOnline today: 'There is a part of me that feels guilty that these laws, that were put in place to protect minorities in the workplace as they should be, have protected a couple of middle-aged, straight, British men. But it is also right the judge found in our favour because it wasn't right.

Such a hypocrite.

[–]Tank-o-grad 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strong suspicion that as a marketing professional he knows he has to say that to avoid being painted the baddie...

[–]Rich-Finger 94 points95 points96 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The gender pay gap has been debunked many times.

[–]ReverseShell1337 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nooooo!!!

I want to blame all my problems on men, it's their fault I couldn't get a high paying jobbbb!!! The only way to make us equal, is to systematically discriminate against them, stiffle their chances, because genitalia matters more than the content of your character.

/s

[–]seahawkguy 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If women want to go catch crab on the Behring sea they are more than welcome to. Big money.

[–]DanteLivra 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And oil plants

Dangerous military positions

Welding in dangerous climate conditions

Construction work

Sanitation work

And many many more.

All those jobs are opened to women, and pays much more than a shitty office job. But for some reasons women don't tend to go towards those jobs. Maybe it's because women values comfort and security above earnings ?

[–]WornBlueCarpet 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

The whole gender pay gap is idiocy. If my boss could replace me with a woman who has the same degree and experience, but at 75% of my wage, he would. Faster than than you'd think possible, me and my male coworkers would be out of a job or forced to go down in pay by 25%.

But we don't.

Because when I got my MSc in mechanical engineering, we were 5 who graduated that year.

Guess how many of those 5 were women.

That's right. Zero.

And contrary to what feminists want you to belive, we had courses with other classes at the university. These included a girl here and there. Not once did I hear anything said or see anything done towards the few girls that so much as smelled of harassment or "rapey talk". I'm not saying that it never happens, but it doesn't happen everywhere. And still, I have only ever met one woman who had the same degree as I and she was using it to teach at the university.

But by all means, let the feminists show me all the women with MSc in mechanical engineering who are willing to work for 75% of my pay.

They can't because they don't exist.

[–]Novitschok 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Mechanical Engineering is on of the, if not the hardest Engeneering Subject at the university I study at, and they also have a very little amount of women. I think, its more of an interest thing however. Chem Engineering also is very hard, and has nearly a 50/50 Split.

[–]WornBlueCarpet 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

We had roughly the same ratio at our chemical engineering department.

I was told by a professor that only one branch of engineering surpassed mechanical engineering when it comes to complexity and level requirements in math and physics: electronics engineering.

I've also never met a female electronics engineer.

And I agree. It's not about capability. I know it isn't considering that some of my professors were women. But as you say, it's interest.

What's also interesting is that I have been recently permanently banned from SelfAwarewolves for writing this exact thing as a response to a post about how few women there are in the top of finance and management.

In some of the economics courses I took at the university, only a maximum of 20% were women.

If we assume that these women are not better nor worse than their male classmates, then they must be equally distributed throughout the class when it comes to capability.

And not every single man in those courses end up in the top. They can't. Otherwise it wouldn't be the top. So let's assume that only the top 20% of those taking economic degrees at the universities end up in top management.

Of those 20%, 20% are women. Which equals to 4%.

Does this not fit pretty well with what we see in the financial sector and corporate world? I know it does.

But pointing that out means I don't understand feminism and never will, so there's no room for me in SelfAwarewolves.

The irony of the sub's name. 😄

[–]throwaway742858 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

something something spatial something

[–]Total-Success2207 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We know the pay gap is false, because if companies could pay women 30% less, their entire workforce would consist of women.

[–]time2trouble 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure other companies will take this as a lesson and make sure they come up with some plausible-sounding reason before doing that next time.

[–]WeaboPepe 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They already do. It’s called #MeToo.

[–]FewDegree108 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe fake harrasment allegations

[–]MydnightRose 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

50 million to each of the 5 men.

[–]neveragoodtime 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Since that goes to them as income, critics will complain this increases the pay gap /s

[–]MydnightRose 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At this point, the feminist will cry that breathing is sexist.

[–]ReverseShell1337 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait wtf really? Wow. That's alot of money for something so trivial.

Then again, I would be really pissed aswell

[–]LordStark_01 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow I want to be wrongfully fired now. Actually no I don't.

[–]ZS_1171 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ye

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